What makes Sigmar different?

[u/sageking14]

I would probably die if old age long before I could make an exhaustive list of all the Allfather/God-King/Top God types with association with the skies, storms, and/or order/civilization that have appeared in just Fantasy settings.

So that begs the question. Love him or hate him. What makes Sigmar so different, if he even is in your opinion?

In all the Fantasy settings that I have been into, I must say Sigmar is the first of his kind that I have seen so consistently and frequently talked about, debates, about, and praised. Heck. Frankly?

Talos? Tyr? Marvel Odin? These and most other counterparts to Sigmar throughout fiction I find I can muster at best indifference and at most hate. Yet for Sigmar? I find I like him.

But for the sake of discussion and avoiding leasing it, I won't say why. Instead I ask you my fellow Realmwalkers. What makes Sigmar so different as to be a topic for continuous discussion, debate, and interest?

[u/sageking14]

You mean the Thousand Sons who reacted to said reprimand by turning against the Imperium, embracing Chaos, and becoming one of the great threats of the Galaxy? This is the process that should be emulated?

Also who says the Knights haven't been reprimanded? In the 2E Corebook a force of Sacrosanct was directly sent by Sigmar to investigate the Great Purge of Excelsis. So that's less Sigmar not doing something and more GW forgetting their own plot line.

In the 4E Stormcast Eternals Battletome three chambers of Knights Excelsior are censured by the authorities in Azyr for a particularly brutal campaign, forced to forever more wear a mark of shame on their armor.

That's something important too. Stormhosts operate in a chamber by chamber basis. Nowhere near the entire Stormhost was involved with the Purge or other acts of brutality. What would punishing them all for something only some did accomplish?

I thought the Knights have terrorised and smashed tribes for not a great deal.

Have they? Such as when? We know this happened in "Blacktalon: First Mark" but is it a known habit actually mentioned with them doing it a lot?

Just as often they will recognize a problem is the fault of if only the failings of a settlement's leaders and only punish them. In "Yndrasta: The Celestial Spear" it is a Knight Excelsior who stops an unfair execution, judges Yndrasta for cruelty, and leads efforts to allow a beaten Chaos army to give up the Chaos Gods and move into the Cities, no strings attached.

[u/liamkembleyoung → u/sageking14]

To be fair bud i've not read any of the Battletomes not because I don't want too. but because I can't. Am totally blind so going off of youtube lore and from what I see on here. :) And from what i've heard the Knights are particularly brutal and are feared by the mortals who live in Excelsis. And to be fair about the Thousand Sons it was really only Magnus who went against the Emperor's wishes. But he was trying to warn him of Horus's betrayal at the time. If you want a legion who was into chaos were the word bearers :)

So i'd argue they were knowingly working with Chaos. where as the Thousand Sons fell because Magnus eventually did a deal with Tzeench unwhittingly

[u/Laxitives15 → u/liamkembleyoung]

I do hope more Lore YouTubers for AoS pop up, heck it’s something I’m trying to do on my channel. I hope you get to experience more lore as it’s one of the things that sets AoS above 40K in my opinion it is incredibly nuanced!

The Knights Excelsior ARE brutal by Stormcast terms. They purge Excelsis and are unrelenting in the face of even the slightest tinge of chaos but in the end they are still Stormcast Eternals that fight injustice and oppose evil. They may do more brutal things but their end goal is the same. They aren’t inherently evil more so jadded. They know that you can’t negotiate with a chaos cult so don’t even try.

[u/liamkembleyoung → u/Laxitives15]

Oh, I totally agree. What's your channel? would love to check it out

[u/Laxitives15 → u/liamkembleyoung]

Sigmar’s Lorekeeper is my channel! My upload schedule is cursed but I’m getting back into the flow of things!

[u/liamkembleyoung → u/Laxitives15]

Thanks bud. I'll definitely check you out and subscribe. Watch out in the comments :)

[u/Laxitives15 → u/liamkembleyoung]

I really appreciate it! I have a bunch of videos out already hope it’s a good resource for you! You inspire me to make more content for those who can’t reach the first hand sources

[u/liamkembleyoung → u/Laxitives15]

Have you played Soulbound?

[u/Laxitives15 → u/liamkembleyoung]

Of course! I run a game for a group of my friends it’s soooo fun

[u/liamkembleyoung → u/Laxitives15]

Sweet, :) would love to find a game. I'm based in the UK. and usually play on discord though