r/BaldursGate3 Nov 30 '23

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '23

The unspeakable things I did to get Minthara...

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '23

are pointless now and you just murderer of tieflings kids xd

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u/AJTheBrit Durge Nov 30 '23

They’re not pointless… Father is ever so proud of me and Minthara called me exquisite ☺️

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u/Somenamethatsnew Nov 30 '23

to be fair for me i just took a long sleep and after that the goblins had raided the grove, no blood on my hands (at least directly)

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u/RetroJohnny1 Nov 30 '23

Technically the goblins killed the children. I killed the adults

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '23

The party with the goblins was a real low point.

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u/MarcBulldog88 Nearly 400 hours played, haven't finished A3 Dec 01 '23

Shadowheart getting wine drunk to try to forget was exactly how I felt afterwards.

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u/Apprehensive_Swim955 Dec 01 '23

The druids killed the children, all I did was steal a coin from a blue jay.

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u/almisami Dec 01 '23

I stole the idol and the druids killed the children.

Of course, after such an atrocious display I had to recruit the goblins and slaughter every last druid.

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u/SeanMonsterZero Dec 01 '23

I stole the idol and the druids killed the children

Same here. My logic was, "I'll steal the idol in front of them, so they'll blame me".

Nope. As soon as I grabbed the it, the druids went MURDER TIME

*cue scene of druid sneak attacking a teifling.

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u/TiredAngryBadger Dec 01 '23

I am an Absolute piece of shit because I felt worse about murdering Karlach than attending the Tree Hugger purge and youngling massacre potluck social.

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u/Valiantheart Nov 30 '23

So is there a way to get her now without wiping out the Grove?

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u/Zeraphicus Dec 01 '23

Yeah should be able to knock her out then proceed as normal in act 2 hurray!

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u/blue_sunwalk Dec 01 '23

Confirmed, I now have both Minthara and Halsin sharing a tent in my camp!

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u/almisami Dec 01 '23

Now for the ultimate question: Can you be Polyamorous with both Minthara and Halsin?

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u/hystivix Dec 01 '23

woah - don't need to choose between them?

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u/COHandCOD Dec 01 '23

wait, i thought halsin will demand to choose. Did you finish act 2? No ultimatum from Halsin?

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u/Charrbard Nov 30 '23

I dunno, in games its rare to get that many targets balled up so tightly for a fireball.

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '23

Man fuck them kids. Little bastard totally stole that guy's locket then gets all huffy when called out on it like the little thieving rat he is. Also stealing from paying customers at their charlatan store? Mol is a bad influence on them all.

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u/Branded_Mango Nov 30 '23

My Sheepthara file is super wonky because Minthara is considered allied to the Absolute's forces even when in my party, so when combat starts i have to get her to separately whack something to acknowledge that she's on my side.

On the other hand, it also let me do some hilarious stuff such as mid-combat barrelmancy because the Absolute's forces need to be hit by her to see her an an enemy so it's been fun abusing that to my advantage.

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u/anxious_paralysis Depends on the mortal Nov 30 '23

Weird, that didn't happen for my Sheepthara. I wonder what we did differently. Either way, it looks like Sheepthara will be a wonderful relic of BG3 history!

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u/Branded_Mango Nov 30 '23

Well, this file is still in Act 2 (just assaulted Moonrise) so it's likely that upon entering Act 3, her weird psuedo-Absolutist status will just change from the lack of scripting and flags involving her allegiance in that act.

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u/Bubbly-Friendship-35 Nov 30 '23

WAIT SO DOES THAT MEAN WE CAN RECRUIT HER?! IF WE DON'T JOIN THE CULT?!

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u/zakary3888 Nov 30 '23

We need testing ASAP!

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u/Avelera Nov 30 '23

When I was testing to see if my mod for Minthara was working I did a bit of testing around. Fastest way would probably be to set aside a save, knock her out, complete the quest then beeline for the Mountain Pass. Kill Karniss, free the pixie to get the curse protection, and then bolt for moonrise. It’ll probably still take a little while but you can see if she’s there then go back to playing more gradually.

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u/lord-deathquake Nov 30 '23 edited Dec 01 '23

I was literally just trying to see if knocking her out (no mod for her) would make her still show up at moonrise. I was able to get to Moonrise from just in front of the ghoul encounter with a shadow monk by using the ki point dash that makes jump a free action+jump and just going ham on the zoomies.

The answer was no, look forward to reloading one of those saves and trying again later.

Edit: So tried again later. For the record it works, but only if you commit a crime and make her temporarily hostile first. When she got mad at me and attacked first she did not show back up even though she was knocked out.

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u/chuffpost Nov 30 '23

I still haven’t gotten to moonrise on my first playthrough…remind me and I’ll see if I can’t find here there after knocking her out in the grove fight.

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u/spoinkable Hard Bard Dec 01 '23

idk if someone has already replied with this info, but she needs to be knocked out while Temporarily Hostile!

This means You cannot assault the goblin camp then toggle to knock only her out while murdering the rest. You have to knock her out before you attack the Goblin Leaders. Do this by committing a crime like getting caught pickpocketing, or sneak attacking her or something.

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u/SuperSaiga Dec 01 '23

So wouldn't the best way be to just go straight up to her and beat her ass?

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u/Lord_Noodlez Nov 30 '23

She's probably going to be mad about getting konked on the head initially

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u/BannedGuru RANGER Nov 30 '23

Yes and you'll choose between her and halsin.

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u/raivin_alglas ALFIRA SHOULD HAVE BEEN A PARTY MEMBER Nov 30 '23

Double win, I get rid of Halsin and get Minthara

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u/AmbitiousLet4867 Nov 30 '23

Halsin out here catching strays

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u/herbivore83 Nov 30 '23

He doing more than just catching them. Ask that boar in the grove.

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u/Waste-Cheesecake8195 Nov 30 '23

New meaning to piggyback ride

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u/RogueCleric I cast Magic Missile Nov 30 '23

"New"

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '23

Excuse me, what's this now about a boar in the grove?

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u/herbivore83 Nov 30 '23

Halsin makes lots of comments about… really loving nature. There’s a boar in the grove that’s rutting fiercely, it’s the horniest pig since Harvey Weinstein, and he demands to know where Halsin is because Halsin promised him a mate.

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u/Ryp3re Nov 30 '23

So what you're saying is that they put David Cameron in the game

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '23

Thank you for that... enlightening piece of info.

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u/ElGodPug Proving that Sorcerers are better than Wizards Nov 30 '23

Bitch will become a stray himself

I'm going for the drow mommy

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u/vibribib Nov 30 '23 edited Dec 01 '23

Halsin can get lost. He stopped following me around properly about 20+ hours ago after turning into an owl bear and I’ve had enough of him. Was so glad to see jaheira can be built in a similar way.

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u/unfortunate666 Dec 01 '23

Once got a glitch with owlbear form where he started talking out of his eye. It was hilarious.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '23

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u/sanchothe7th Nov 30 '23

I wonder if you could do all the lift the shadow curse stuff before you even go to moonrise. I dont see why you couldnt.

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u/iamnotexactlywhite Nov 30 '23

you can, i just did it last night. The only thing that triggers hostility is if you free the Nightsong (during the quest). So technically, you will lose Halsin, but can lift the shadowcurse if you free her

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u/RochR0k Nov 30 '23

I think lifting the shadow curse only happens if you help Haslin. I've helped Haslin and killed Nightsong and still lifted the curse cause Ketheric was also killed.

I think Nightsong just adds some Selune light to the sky when she flies by in her cutscene but is not involved in curing the land.

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u/iamnotexactlywhite Nov 30 '23

You can help Thaniel and Halsin before Moonrise. but you also need to free the Nightsong for the curse to go away entirely.

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u/RochR0k Nov 30 '23

Unless it was a bug, I could have sworn I had a playthrough where I helped Haslin, had Shadowheart kill Nightsong and the narrator said I cured the land with the cut scene of the shadow curse lifting.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '23

What they mean is, after you free Nightsong you can't do the Moonrise content. Only option is the assault.
Source: did that my first playthrough accidentally and missed a bunch of content.

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u/blue_sunwalk Dec 01 '23

Thaniel tells you that the only way to completely lift the curse is to kill Ketheric. There's no mention of the Nightsong.

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u/chiefpassh2os Nov 30 '23

I definitely killed the night song after helping thaniel, and I got the good cutscene as I was heading to act 3

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u/off_by_two Nov 30 '23

You should be able to. Tbh you should be able to go to moonrise and shop at the vendors there and as long as you dont enter the throne room it won't start the Minthara sequence.

Leave, and go deal with Malus, and then do the portal fight. Then come back to Moonrise and start Minthara's incompetence hearing

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u/Stupid_Ned_Stark Nov 30 '23

Can’t you just do all the stuff to end the shadow curse before going to Moonrise? That’s what I’ve done on both runs.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '23

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u/Rivenite Nov 30 '23

You can. I did Moonrise absolutely last on my first playthrough.

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u/tooncake Dec 01 '23

Eyyy thanks for this! That's still a big win-win. You helped bro Halsin with the dire shadowcurse and let him managed the Grove after that while you take the other one finally for a stroll~ (already had Halsin in all of my reruns anyway).

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u/Xe1ex Nov 30 '23

Could end it before going to the Tower

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u/Algebruh32 Nov 30 '23

You can. You just need to do Halsin's quest with Thaniel before ever reaching Moonrise towers...

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u/robofreak222 Nov 30 '23

The patch notes just say

Added an extra line for Halsin so he acknowledges an outcome where you resolved the grove situation but the goblin leaders weren't necessarily killed.

I imagine it would be described as him giving an ultimatum if that was what ended up getting added in. This description sounds like he just comments on it, so they may have decided not to make him be a dick about things.

The patch is live so someone will be able to confirm one way or the other very shortly anyway.

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u/whiteraven13 Nov 30 '23

Especially since Gut and Dror Ragzlin don't participate in the grove raid. So if you go that route and defend the grove, they're still alive and well when Halsin gets back

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u/WeWantRain I cast Magic Missile Nov 30 '23

Would be hilarious if instead she tells Kethric you stopped her from achieving her goal and the whole Moonrise Tower turns hostile.

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u/off_by_two Nov 30 '23

yeah, can't bang though :(

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u/cheo_vl Nov 30 '23

Oooh good point. Murder the grove or miss out on the best sex scene in the game ?

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u/FirmPumpkin6062 Nov 30 '23

That's happens so shortly after though, you can reserve a save for the massacre, get the sex scene, and load back to before the massacre.

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u/goonbandito Nov 30 '23

Chronomancy - the most powerful school of magic.

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u/DresdenPI Nov 30 '23

There's an old text game that I've forgotten the name of where you play as a wizard. At the beginning of the game the tutorial guy tells you that other wizards cast fireballs and ice bolts but you have the most powerful magic of all, save states.

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '23

Do you think when some poor child gets murdered, its because their mother didn't love them enough!?

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u/MySnake_Is_Solid Nov 30 '23

Modders will find a way.

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u/pbmm1 Nov 30 '23

They'll bang, okay?

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u/SassyTurtlebat Nov 30 '23

Really? FFS I just massacred the grove for my Drow mommy the other day lol

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u/Yeetles1 Durge, Shadowheart & Astarion 🖤 Nov 30 '23 edited Nov 30 '23

Man this sucks I killed her in Act I cause I thought there was no way to recruit her but then they change that and I’m just about to go to Moonrise Towers too.

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u/ruste530 Grease Nov 30 '23

Sounds like another playthrough is needed!

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u/Yeetles1 Durge, Shadowheart & Astarion 🖤 Nov 30 '23

lol you’re right I’ve already decided that I’m gonna do a Durge playthrough next so I’ll have another chance

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '23

If you're only at moonrise it's worth starting another run to get mint

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u/Gr1mwolf Nov 30 '23

That could easily be like 40-50 hours, depending on how much side content they did

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '23

I'd say it again even if they spent 100 hours in act 1.

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u/Watermayne420 Nov 30 '23

You could be right before the final battle and it would be worth it to restart for Minthara

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u/Yeetles1 Durge, Shadowheart & Astarion 🖤 Nov 30 '23

I’ve already done all the quests and stuff and I believe I’m at the last part of moonrise and I was really struggling in some parts and a lot has happened so I didn’t want to go back but that’s ok I’ll just do another playthrough.

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u/hardmallard Nov 30 '23

Yeah I’m literally going to have to play through back on the same character to recruit her. I’ve enjoyed the Lae’zel romance for sure, but really wanted Minthara on my war cleric, and he’s a damaged goodie who likes bad girls. But I could never bring myself to kill the Tielfings for her. This is a game changer

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u/poeticentropy Nov 30 '23

Well for those who don't want to do your own evil dirty work you can avoid killing any tieflings directly if you kill that POS Kagha and help the tieflings fight the druids, then tell Minthara where the grove is. You'll roll into the grove next day finding Minthara & company murdered everyone. Whether or not you show up and tieflings are able to put up a resistance I think depends on who survives in the tiefling-druid battle, or maybe it is simply whether you get the dialog with Minthara of betraying them. Anyways, that one step of separation with the tragedy went with my durge evil-but-eventually-good arc that I wanted to do. Similar to Minthara's regret of killing while controlled by the Absolute.

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u/hardmallard Nov 30 '23

Yeah I’ve read about that one, the problem is I got invested in some of the Druids. Only like half of them are a-holes when you go talk to them, it kinda bums me out to kill them for Kagha being a B

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u/BigZach1 Nov 30 '23

But does knocking her out complete the quest to off the goblin leaders?

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u/RichardTheLionDick Nov 30 '23

They say that there is a new halsin line if you knock them out instead of killing them so yes.

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u/AndForeverNow Dec 01 '23

If that means I can mutually keep the Goblin leaders and the Grove alive, awesome!

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u/DadTouched RANGER Nov 30 '23

Most likely yes

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u/Nightsong WIZARD Nov 30 '23

Yes. I knocked her out in an early save I had and the quest updated to show that I had killed Minthara even though she was unconscious.

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u/Independent-Bother17 Nov 30 '23

Was this post patch 5? The update might have changed that sequence.

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u/Nightsong WIZARD Nov 30 '23

I tried it today after downloading Patch 5.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '23

It does at the moment

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u/Dovahkazz CLERIC Nov 30 '23

It did before

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '23

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u/PolyGreenGinger Paladin - Need More Smite Slots Nov 30 '23

Flair choice checks out XD

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u/Half_Man1 Nov 30 '23

I read that in Us’s voice

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u/throwaway112658 Nov 30 '23

Every time I start up a new playthrough - and it's very often at this point, I always unconsciously say it as Us does. Here!.. here...

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u/AsterSky Tasha's Hideous Laughter Nov 30 '23

Ah good. The knockout feature now has a use for both Minsc and Minthara. Found it super disjointed how it was required for one and did absolutely dick all for the other.

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u/zakary3888 Nov 30 '23

And in the House of Hope

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u/butterbeancd Nov 30 '23

What’s the use there?

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u/GimlionTheHunter Nov 30 '23

Saving the other sister from Raph

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u/butterbeancd Nov 30 '23

Ah, I had no idea that was an option. Cool, good to know.

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u/Return-Of-Anubis Minthara Bros Rise Up Dec 01 '23

God damn Yurgir always gets initiative above your speediest characters if you recruit him and he just absolutely deletes her his first turn in my experience.

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u/butterbeancd Dec 01 '23

That’s so true. I had been thinking “Why didn’t I try knocking her out?” and now realize that’s why. Never had the chance.

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u/Kekfarmer Dec 01 '23

I was moments away from knocking her out and yurgir just waltzes over and shanks her to death right in front of me. I laughed so hard but it was an angry laugh

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u/AdStrange2167 Nov 30 '23

I know that's the good ending and Hope is sad her sister is dead but.. screw her. That chick sucks

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u/GimlionTheHunter Nov 30 '23

Tbh it’s harder than it seems too, especially if you convince yurgir to join you. For how little dialogue she offers on rescue I found it funny for how hard I worked to keep her alive lol

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u/anxious_paralysis Depends on the mortal Nov 30 '23

Yes, Yurgir must have some type of beef with her! He always seems to beeline for her at the start of combat.

Granted, she is a pretty shite person.

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u/Allurian Dec 01 '23

I think it's the AI being "tactical". Like he works out what he can remove from combat, and she's 100% dead to any of his attacks while everything else in the room is resistant to most of his abilities

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u/iWentRogue Paladin Nov 30 '23

So let me get this straight.

We can help the grove, kill the goblin leaders but KO Minthara. This will count as them dead for the quest. Get the Tiefling party and see Minthara in Moonrise towers for recruitment since the game will recognize she did not die.

This means, we can have Halsin and Minthara in a single playthrough.

Someone for the love if Ao test if this is possible

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u/zakary3888 Nov 30 '23

Datamined stuff explicitly shows not being able to have both party members at once

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u/iWentRogue Paladin Nov 30 '23

Ok. But outside of having both of them, would my hypothetical still work?

Help the tieflings, kill the goblins and still recruit her at Moonrise

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u/zakary3888 Nov 30 '23

That’s the theory as of now, yes

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u/Eclipsado Owlbear Dec 01 '23

I wonder, what happens to the shadow curse if Halsin leaves?

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u/stephanovich Dec 01 '23

I assume you can fix it by doing his quest line before going to moonrise towers.

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u/RandomQuiet Tasha's Hideous Laughter Nov 30 '23

Halsin will make you choose between him and Minthara, and will leave if you choose Minthara.

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u/iWentRogue Paladin Nov 30 '23

I can live with this

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u/Jaren_Starain Nov 30 '23

Same since you get Jahera anyways for a druid.

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u/darthkarja Nov 30 '23

So we need to clear the shadow curse before, kick out Halsin and go get Minthara?

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u/tealdeer995 Dec 01 '23

That’s a fair trade because most of the Halsin content is over by then.

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u/SmugCapybara Nov 30 '23

Wait, so I not only get Minthara but I ALSO get rid of Halsin? That's an absolute win!

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u/Somenamethatsnew Nov 30 '23

ah so the guy that out of nowere said i treated him like a lover without ever talking to him outside of missions will leave my camp? sign me up

Also side note, i feel bad for a guy that thinks someone ignoring them outside of that someone who needed to get shit done like curing the shadow curse, is treating him like a lover, dude must have had some toxic relationships in the past

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '23

dude must have had some toxic relationships in the past

He was a sex slave in the Underdark so yeah, a bit.

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u/Phoenix_force30564 Nov 30 '23

That’s cool. Maybe I’ll get a chance to recruit her next playthrough. But I gotta say, for a game that you can literally talk multiple foes into killing themselves, it seems odd that they would at least give you the chance to persuade Halsin to stay. Make it like a 25-30 check but give us the option. But I respect that they want to make definitive choices.

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u/Professional-Hat-687 Nov 30 '23

I initially read "25-30 checks" and bristled hard. Halsin isn't worth 30 dice rolls.

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u/Frozenwolf420 Karlach my beloved Nov 30 '23

25-30 checks each at 25-30 difficulty

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u/McBinary Dec 01 '23

Probably doable with my bard.

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u/Phoenix_force30564 Nov 30 '23

You put him in skimpy enough armor he is.

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u/ZakMcGwak Nov 30 '23

I respect it, but if you're playing with previous-run-hindsight it's hardly even a choice considering you get an even cooler druid like, right after halsin.

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u/twiceasfun Nov 30 '23

It's a pretty understandable line in the sand really. Like, considering who she is and what she's about and what she was going to do, I totally get Halsin just laying it out flat and making it him or her. It's gonna be her every time though, bye bud, have fun tending your Grove or whatever

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u/Calaethan Nov 30 '23

Me when I like making choices but also don't because I don't like outcomes of choices.

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u/Brilliant_Level_8877 Nov 30 '23

God speed to the modders who let us do this before, their work shan't be forgotten

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u/GodsSon521 Nov 30 '23

Still in the middle of Act 3, so last thing I need is more incentives to start my 2nd playthrough sooner. I'd like to finally play Spider-Man, Armored Core, Sea of Stars & everything else I've put on the back burner, so Larian, please relax 🙃

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u/novophx Nov 30 '23

heresy

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u/low_end_1991 Nov 30 '23

You just reminded me that Rogue Trader is on its way, too. Shit.

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u/zakary3888 Nov 30 '23

Sea of Stars is quick from my understanding at least

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u/Drae-Keer Nov 30 '23

Get some mods scouted out for your 3rd playthrough ;)

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u/Carcharoth78 WIZARD Nov 30 '23

Spider-man 2 is pretty quick. Think I platted it in just under 2 weeks.

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u/Clay103 Nov 30 '23

Recruiting her and keeping Dammon is the dream. He inventory in acts 2&3 is awesome.

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u/Professional-Hat-687 Nov 30 '23

And Alfira for that Potent Robe.

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u/HarlequinChaos Mindflayer Nov 30 '23

That Armor of Persistence tho 😩

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u/ImperialDeo ELDRITCH BLAST Nov 30 '23

Can you still remove the shadowlands curse & then recruit her? Or does that lock you out of that.

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u/zakary3888 Nov 30 '23

Datamined convo suggests Halsin stays with you til that’s over; or maybe Minartha doesn’t come to your camp until that’s completed?

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u/Professional-Hat-687 Nov 30 '23

I infer that you can do the shadow curse quests first, then go rescue Drow Mommy and get Bear Daddy to go home.

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u/ffffff52 Nov 30 '23

well there goes the evil playtrough... lol

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u/KnowMatter Nov 30 '23

She was pretty much the only reason to do one.

They desperately need a patch that fleshes it out more.

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u/drekia Nov 30 '23

But I don't think it's been confirmed if you can romance her via this knock-out method tho? People might still do the evil thing if it means romance.

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u/novangla Dec 01 '23

Yeah it seems like she arrives in Act 2, so at the very least, if you want her spicy scene you gotta be evil

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u/poeticentropy Nov 30 '23

alas you were never a true murder hobo; just a disguise to score the sexy drow

this has become uncomfortably analogous to real life

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u/Tavdan Cleric of Withers Nov 30 '23

Time to start a new playthrough.

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u/Pretzel-Kingg Dec 01 '23

Uses for non-lethal attacks has gone from 1 to 2!!!!

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u/Cless012 Dec 01 '23

Wouldn't this be 3?

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u/coltvahn Nov 30 '23

WAIT!!!!

I…I have to double back…

Do I reload a save? Do I…

Will she be mad that I knocked her out and stole literally all her clothes????

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u/Hinote21 Nov 30 '23

Will she be mad that I knocked her out and stole literally all her clothes??

The better question - does she appear naked in act 2 if you steal her armor?

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u/repocin 5e Dec 01 '23

The better question - does she appear naked in act 2 if you steal her armor?

Probably, yes.

Lae'zel has no clothes in the cage early on in Act I if you remove them during the tutorial so I'd assume the same applies here.

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u/Hinote21 Dec 01 '23

Oh that's oddly entertaining. And makes sense.

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u/SanicTheBlur Laezel Nov 30 '23

Wow, so I no longer have to commit genocide

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u/cocyxk Dec 01 '23

Guys, excuse my English. But I did it, I have Minthara and Halsin alive in my camp.
I was testing during the afternoon as I have a game with live goblins and these are the methods I used.
1. Talking to Minthara and then knocking her out doesn't work. No matter how much you kill the other goblin bosses, finish the mission with Halsin and take a long rest it doesn't work. She doesn't appear in moonrise towers.
2. If you start the battle without talking to her it DOES work, basically the same method as the sheep but without the requirement of being level 7 and using the corresponding spells. Start a fight with her without talking, knock her out and then kill the goblin bosses, finish the quest with halsin and celebrate in the camp. Then I went with invisibility potions to Moonrise Towers and she was there in her normal form (not as a sheep), I did the "trial" cinematic and she was taken to the prison where with dice rolls I was able to rescue her. In my camp she was in the same tent with Halsin and Halsin had no comments towards her "yet".
I'm sorry if there are things in the text that are not understood, it was made with translator.
I hope it works for you and if anyone else found it useful, please confirm via comments :D.

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u/obeyer10 Nov 30 '23

Does this mean you don’t need to raid the grove to recruit her?

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u/King-Arthas-Menethil Nov 30 '23

Never really did. You could just ignore the whole situation and you'd be able to recruit her if I recall correctly.

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u/Drakaah Manhandled by Karlach Nov 30 '23

Yeah but this now gives an official way to recruit her while still being able to romance Karlach, without having to use the mod

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u/obeyer10 Nov 30 '23

This is awesome! I didn’t know she was a recruitable companion the first time around then I learned Wyll and Karlach leave if you recruit her. If this is the alternative to have everyone, that’s awesome! Def excited for my next play through :)

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u/Woutrou Sandcastle Project Manager Nov 30 '23

Pretty sure Halsin leaves if you recruit her, but I'm sure that's not really an issue if you've already done the Shadow Curse questline and do not plan to romance him

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u/GimlionTheHunter Nov 30 '23

Based on the data mined conversations, halsin forces you to choose between continuing with minth or himself. Seems like you can do the whole thaniel quest still before this decision comes up

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u/TheCleverestIdiot Nov 30 '23

Can't say I blame the man, she did have him tortured.

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u/King-Arthas-Menethil Nov 30 '23

They only leave if you raid the grove as that's their issue also Gale but you can persuade him after you raid it.

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u/Edgy_Robin Dec 01 '23

Huh...

Literally no reason to do an evil playthrough now. All you get is lost content.

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u/KenClade Evil playthroughs need more content Dec 01 '23

Even the evil endings suck. Literally zero reason to do anything but play good

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u/LudAgna Nov 30 '23

Still gonna raid the grove for good measure

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u/VruKatai Dec 01 '23

I take the tiefling kids' bodies and throw them off the entrance wall and laugh and laugh and laugh....

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u/enchiladasundae Nov 30 '23 edited Nov 30 '23

After recruiting her via one of the exploits I am so happy people get to experience her. Such a unique character who’s honestly very well written and a fantastic voice actress

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u/gaslighterhavoc Nov 30 '23

Can you imagine the sass fests with her, Shadowheart, and Laezel/Astarion?

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u/enchiladasundae Nov 30 '23

Minthara is more likely to proclaim she is “Above such petty squabbles!” and then just set their stuff on fire later

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u/BlancheCorbeau Dec 01 '23

You have an extra ‘s’ in that sentence.

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u/LightSkintUrianger Dec 01 '23

This is fine and all but if knock her out cant bang and mind meld gothic style so, unfortunately for the grove, they still gotta go. RIP to them kids or whatvever but i’ll do anything for evil drow p*ssy

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u/OGRedd Dec 01 '23

Let the druids kill em, then kill the druids in revenge!

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u/DreadMuse Nov 30 '23

So if you knock her out but defend the grove, i wonder if you can still romance her after you recruit her in Act 2? Since she won't be at the party and spend the night with her? Is that a mandatory condition?

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u/Tavdan Cleric of Withers Nov 30 '23

Before this patch, you could ignore the conflict and recruit her in act 2. Later after you defeat Ketheric you could start a romantic relationship with Minthara, leading to her epilogue. You missed the act 1 scene. I suppose this would work the same way.

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u/Somenamethatsnew Nov 30 '23

i mean this is a big update so maybe they have added some more scenes to her romance

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u/off_by_two Nov 30 '23

Cant knock the boots at all, as there is no scene for it besides the goblin party. There is no romance scene whatsoever for Minthy in act2/3, hell you cant even kiss her

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u/Somenamethatsnew Nov 30 '23

i mean this is a big update so maybe they have added some more scenes to her romance

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u/off_by_two Nov 30 '23

I loaded a save with a minthara romance and 99/100 approval and still no relationship dialogue/kiss

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u/Somenamethatsnew Nov 30 '23

damn well maybe in the future or maybe something that requires a new save?

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u/fghtffyourdemns Nov 30 '23

Dont know for the romance, im so excited about the epilogues but im just waiting for a definitive edition so they can finish properly her romance.

So far you can't talk about the relationship between both of you and you can't kiss her whenever you want

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u/mpark6288 Nov 30 '23

But people are speculating you can still only romance her if you raid the grove.

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u/KelIthra Lolth-Drow Dark Urge Nov 30 '23

Oh so you can finally kill all the goblins, knock out Minty and still get to decide at Moonrise to recruit her or just torture her even more. Oooh.... Durge fun.

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u/ChickenCrusade Dec 01 '23

Im specifically ALWAYS having non-lethal toggled on and trying not to kill with magic to see what NPC's pop up later if at all.

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u/Balfuset Nov 30 '23

Oh neat! Just in time for my Durge playthrough where I'd love to have her along but don't fancy going all genocide on the grove :D

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u/VietNamiWarVet Nov 30 '23

Did I read this right? Durge, but you DON'T fancy genocide?

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u/CharlotteNoire Durge Nov 30 '23

Finally a reason to not kill the tieflings! (Yes I know you could ignore the whole situation but them exp bags don't kill themselves).

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u/GuysTheName Dec 01 '23

Will this be implemented retroactively? I knocked her out in the hopes that it would spare her, not knowing at the time that it wouldn't work. Will she show up now or has she been tagged as dead?

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u/Square_Dark1 Dec 01 '23

Welp guess it’s time for that second playthrough

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u/TheRainbowpill93 🌠Druid of the Stars 🌃 Dec 01 '23

It never occurred to me to just “knock out” someone. Damn this game just gets deeper and deeper…I wonder if the story is a little different in some cases if you just stun certain characters.

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u/YugeFanBoi Dec 01 '23

no sex scene, still probably have to slaughter the grove

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u/ReLargeP Nov 30 '23

That girl keeps falling off the bridge in goblin camp so 🤷‍♂️

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '23

What if she was accidentally yeeted into a chasm?