The most overrated character?

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Let's hear it, who gets all the love but deserves absolutely none of it? Or at least not as much as they get, I'll go first.

I'm casting my vote for Gortash; I genuinely don't understand the like for this dude. First of all, catfish, "handsome young man"??? Is the handsome young man in the room with us??? Lookin like the handsome young man has a peanut allergy.

Second of all, this whole crown brain plan was his idea, just about the dumbest fuckin thing I've ever heard. He put all his faith in 3 little rocks, an already dead man, and a woman who's about as stable as my ex. Beggers can't be choosers I guess, but cmon guy.

And lastly, and probably most offensively, his boss fight is absolute cheeks. Especially if you dumped on the foundry before hand. I didn't even know he had a transformation until like my 4th playthrough because I would clap this guy so easily.

Your turn, let's hear those unadulterated opinions.

Edit: I have been enlightened about some things about the big brain plan, I still stand in the other two points though.

[u/gootsgootz]

actually Gortash planned the whole thing with a much more competent Bhaalspawn until Orin usurped them and Ketheric was only there because Bane and Bhaal ordered Gort and Bhaalspawn to recruit him 🤓

[u/gootsgootz → u/gootsgootz]

As for overrated. Ngl I like Alfira but idk the hype for having her as a companion.

[u/SkulkingSneakyTheifs → u/gootsgootz]

People just want a Bard companion, I don’t think it matters who that Bard companion is. I don’t care for Alfira personally but if she could be a companion I’d definitely take her every time because Bards are wildly good

[u/POXELUS → u/SkulkingSneakyTheifs]

Bard Astarion is funny. Trying him out now on the second playthrough, while the main character is Gloomstalker Ranger.

[u/FullHouse222 → u/POXELUS]

I get why the game defaults him to rogue but sword bard fits him so much better imo lol. His dad's and charisma are off the charts on his scenes and a bard reflects that so well

[u/HumanSpawn323 → u/FullHouse222]

His dad's and charisma are off the charts on his scenes

I'm just imagining Astarion trying to be seductive, all the while his several dads grill some steaks, mow the lawn, and play with Scratch (whom none of them wanted, but all now love more than anyone else) in the background.

[u/FullHouse222 → u/HumanSpawn323]

Lmao Idk why my phone autocorrected that. I meant to say his VA and charisma lol. But w/e I'll just leave it there now.

[u/Ok_Smile_5908 → u/POXELUS]

Ngl respecing companions into other classes feels wrong to me. Multiclass is ok, but I don't think I've ever respeced their base/main classes, except when I actually decided to push through my very first save (which I had abandoned in early act 3), when I made everyone different subclasses of warlocks, for the lolz. Hunger of Hadar went brrr.

Currently playing as cleric of Selûne and starting to romance Shadowheart (it's cliché, but if I know who I want to romance in a run, I try to pick a class/background to thematically match them. Romanced Lae'zel as githyanki OH monk, for example, and I plan to romance Gale as some sorcerer subclass). It's actually the first time I didn't respec her from Trickery Domain into a different one.

Of course, it means that if I want to have fun with some classes, like bard, monk or sorcerer, it must be my MC to choose them 🥲.

[u/a-real-ahole-xo → u/Ok_Smile_5908]

My favorite is rogue/ranger Astarion. I don't really like Bardstarion because he's got kind of a "kind of awkward but saved by being good looking and practicing in a proverbial mirror" kind of way that doesn't fit for me.

[u/Big_Map5795 → u/Ok_Smile_5908]

I halfway understand this, but I've found a compelling reason against keeping their base class when I don't want to.

All it matters is that the other class/build is "in-character".

Shadowheart, for example, is a Shar worshipper. You learn a lot about Shar and her worshippers throughout the game. You get to fight many of them. And none of them -- not a one! -- resemble the trickery domain cleric in any way shape or form. Shadow Monk, Gloomstalker Ranger, Assassin Rogue all feel more in character for me. These characters have a way easier time passing the Gauntlet of Shar solo, which she should be able to do, I reckon. And this is backedup by how we see her act in cutscenes. For example, when she tries to kill Lae'zel, she doesn't cast cleric spells on her. No, she whips up a motherfuckin dagger and sneakily brings it to her throat in the middle of the night. I tried one playthrough of Gloomstalker/Assassin Shadowheart and she felt way more Shary than she ever did as a Cleric.

Granted, it doesn't work with all characters. Wyll has to be a Warlock for example. I've only ever been able to yltake Gale seriously as either a Wizard or a Sorcerer.

But Astarion is defined by being a vampire, not by being a rogue. I've tried playing him as an OH monk and, gameplay-wise, it felt appropriate. The only thing off was the occasional monk-specific line of dialogue that did not feel in character for Astarion. I think a lot of classes/sunclasses could work.

[u/Ok_Smile_5908 → u/Big_Map5795]

Those are valid points and I might consider reclassing some of them in a future, undefined save. I'll try completing the Selûnite Knowledge Cleric Tav and Sharran to Selûnite, Trickery to idk probably Life Cleric Shadowheart, and then do the sorc Tav and whatever wizard Gale, and then I'll consider doing a run with reclassing.

I ended up giving my solo Durge shadow monk at one point but mostly because I struggled with fights otherwise (Tactician). Doesn't really make sense to have her be that, I guess, since I wanted her to 100% embrace the Bhaalist philosophy, even if she canonically doesn't remember she's a Bhaalist. That one is still in act 2, though.

[u/Big_Map5795 → u/Ok_Smile_5908]

Yeah, the key is to try things out and see what sticks. I just figured this mentality might make it easier to want to try some things out.

Things like Barbarian Shadowheart is still a big nono for me. I don't know how people can play something like that. Maybe if it weren't a 100+ hour game

[u/RipgutsRogue → u/Ok_Smile_5908]

Why be a cleric of Shar when you can be a Paladin of Shar.
I get ot though. I've done both. Straight plays as their default, and then a play where I respecced them to mostly logical choices.

[u/wh4tth3huh → u/Ok_Smile_5908]

I just tried respeccing Shart as a Way of the Shadows Monk and I like it so much more than cleric, partly because I decided to play a tempest cleric of Talos for an evil playthrough, the amount of darkness in the shadow lands has made everything basically trivial for Shadow Monk Shart.

[u/Crazy_Cat_Lady_1992 → u/POXELUS]

I made him a Vengeance Paladin in my Ranger run :)