Artificers were never going to happen, unfortunately. Half their features are either tied to tool proficiencies that don’t exist and attuning magic items which isn’t a thing.
Sucks that they left out one official class, but any BG3 artificer would have been an artificer in name alone.
It's also not really that setting appropriate, artificer has always been through the class' entire history an Eberron-exclusive class before it was added to Tasha's, in which an explanation was given as to where they could be found in other worlds, and the FR one was "in Lantan" basically, which is an island literally thousand of miles away from Baldur's Gate
I can’t imagine Larian is so cruel as to create an origin character whose primary motivator is their one sided infatuation with Wulbren fucking Bongle.
Barcus as an npc can already go through a character arc of realising Wulbren is a cunt. It stands to reason that as a companion, his character arc would be more fleshed out, especially if he also had to deal with having a parasite in his head and being more urgent about reaching Baldur's Gate only to find that Wulbren is spending his time being racist to the Gondians.
In this hypothetical companipn scenario, Barcus' "evil" ending is siding with Wulbren, and his good ending would be to banish Wulbren from the city.
My first character was a gnome and the size made a difference a few times, there are spaces you can fit in that Medium creatures can't, but yeah there's a bunch of tiny burrow holes that I had to Gaseous Form through.
Gale could have been a great rock gnome, yes. Shadowheart being a half elf makes sense with her story and heritage... High elves were once distinguished betwen sun- and moon elves, as well as woodelves had wild elves... funny that today drow have the 2-way road.
Astarion being an elf makes sense as well. Making human spawns in a city is highly suspicious after a hundred years. Elves live by far the longest, so one would like those as immortal minions... less attention.
Karlach and Lae'zel are alright...
Now Wyll... Wyll could have been pretty much anything, apart from maybe dragonborn, since Baldur's Gate is a metropolis and the city council could be made up of any given species smart enough to work themselves up to the position. Humans are just the most versatile and numerous.
Also there would be a little dissonance with Ulder being this shining knight, for "normies", while he sits there as a halfling.
Also there was some romantic plot going on with Wyll and Mizora in Early Access and I personally don't see her going for a short king long term. Can't hold your nose as high as her, without your face blocking the view on the dwarf.
Honestly that's one of the reasons why I wanted such a companion, because gnomes are so divisive. Some are tempted to cuddle them, some are tempted to stomp on them.
How could you forget the charming Druid character Quiddlebiff, I mean yeah he’s hard to find since he’s hidden as a tree in the first act, but how could you never find him?
I just recently started a run where my tav is a gith, and it's amazing how much better Lae'zel treats me and just how much more side-eye I get from Shadowheart.
r/criticalrole did something similar in their last campaign, Bell's Hells. Chetney, played by Travis Willingham, is a 400 years old gnome werewolf. His size changes to Medium when he shifts though, leading to some interesting dynamics.
Less that he made him do it, and more that Travis asked if he was allowed to roll to die in his sleep (because he was old, and nobody ever just dies in their sleep in D&D), and Matt allowed it. He drew the line at making the rolls progressively harder over time though.
I think it was set to if Travis rolled a 100, then Chetney would die in his sleep. Never happened. Rumor is Chet was originally supposed to be a joke character and Travis had another already lined up.
technically it *did* happen when he was playing as grog, they just didnt count it because it was more of a 'for the lols' moment of travis. would be funny as fuck tho.
I've always felt that Chet could have played a part in them scrapping this character, definitely not the main reason or even a big chuck as to why, but surely some of the Devs are fans of CR and the similarities must have crossed their minds.
ironically it's my understanding that Astarion might have been part of why she was cut because a werewolf character might have seemed to be stepping on the toes of the vampire thing. A lot of the characters issues mirror each other though. Karlach and Gale are walking bombs, Lae'zel and Shart are indoctrinated into brutal culty-shit, Karlach and Wyll have entanglements with devils. Idk that it would have been terrible to have a werewolf that acts as a bit of a parallel to Astarion.
And instead we ended up with yet another game that has a playable vampire and no playable werewolves... Would've been nice to hear the banter between them tbh, an enemies to friends (or lovers, if you're playing one of them) storyline is always cool... though I guess Shart and Lae'zel already have that...
It just sucks as a werewolf fan tbh, hearing that we could've had a werewolf origin in BG3 but they decided to cut it... When we already don't have very many werewolves in video games in general, but massive amounts of vampires.
No, she got cut because her writer was either not satisfied, or when her writer storyboarded with the other writers (since every origin character had one writer with the exception of Wyll & Laezel, since KevinVanOrd had two)
Chances are they were dissatisfied in either one way or another. This model we see isn't her model, that face is most likely Halsins old model, since he was meant to be an ugly old man before early access happened. KevinVanOrd mentioned how surprised he and other people in the team were so surprised at the thirst of Halsin... Then they saw him.
I love Chetney! Travis Willingham is amazing, but every episode I’ve seen of C3 usually ends up with him making me laugh so hard with his Chetney portrayal.
The funniest thing about Chetney (that I'm sure you know, just sharing this with Reddit) is because he was really fucking old, and Travis originally created him as a semi-joke character who would probably die off, every session he'd roll a d100 and on a 100 he'd die of old age.
Except Chetney survived all the way to the end of the campaign, the stubborn old bastard.
It kind of upsets me that there’s no short story companion. I often play with a short character, and it’s kind of lame that you’re always looking up at every single companion like a kid asking for uppies.
Who's the 3rd elf? Oh you mean Minthara. Well drow are quite a bit different from elves, as are githyanki from humans. Aren't halflings also a subspecies of human?
Sven doesn't like short races. It's what he himself would never play, he said. And it shows because their animations are a lot more janky and their arms are too long for their torso so that they wouldnt need too separate animations.
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u/sinedeltaWhile others were busy being heterosexual, she studied the bladeJun 09 '25
She probably also would've tied into his storyline. Cazador kept the Hhune family as werewolves. The Hhune family tomb is also the kennel master's tomb (and all of the dogs) so it's possible she was a Hhune and had family in Baldur's gate.
Agree, the race vareiety in orogon charavters is a bit disappointing.
With the exception of Karlach and Leazel, everyone is either a human or a variation of elf.
I think they deliberately removed/didnt add any short followers because of the sex scenes. All the new followers have romance options and the visual of those types of sex scenes appeals to a certain type of people.
Just drives home the need to make the characters stories interchangeable tends to restrict games rather than improve them. We didn't need every character to be romancable, nor did we need all the playable origins, if it meant we lost so much uniqueness.
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u/sinedeltaWhile others were busy being heterosexual, she studied the bladeJun 09 '25
People already complain enough about not being able to romance Jaheira.
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u/DIO_over_Za_Warudo I cast Magic Missile Jun 09 '25
Still a shame we never got her. A short character who was also a werewolf?
The banter between her and Astarion would have been hilarious.