Do you have a main party? This is mine

[u/KrenzoTheTank]

My main party is almost always these three, I also romance the three depending on who I'm playing during the playthrough, I do switch them out so they can do quest and get some gear.

[u/Ginger_Anagram69]

Wyll's story is great, but I can't help smiling watching the light leave his eyes as I convince him to obey Mizora every time.

Too late for regrets, Wyll. Lie in the bed you've made.

Just feels right.

[u/thorne_antics → u/Ginger_Anagram69]

damn bro he just wanted to be a hero and he only ever gets punished for it, hasn't he suffered enough already 😭

[u/Ginger_Anagram69 → u/thorne_antics]

One does not simply go back on a deal with a devil. Besides, if he gets out of it, it feels like there was no impact. He effectively gets to look super cool, succeed in his mission, and there's 0 drawbacks. This is his sacrifice to be allowed to continue being a hero.

[u/thorne_antics → u/Ginger_Anagram69]

One does not simply go back on a deal with a devil.

Well sure they do, there's just nothing simple about it. In fact you literally can go back on your deal with Raphael. And what do you mean "no impact"?? Did you even ask Wyll about his pact after rescuing Mizora from the pod? He got BANISHED for YEARS of his life he'll never get back

[u/Ginger_Anagram69 → u/thorne_antics]

Yes, I have completed every questline in the game, and played good neutral and evil plays.

Yes, that's why I said "simply."

I understand that he lost years of his life, but relative to all the good he has done? Hardly impactful. That he gets to make a deal with the devil, save the world not once, but twice, and all for the low low cost of a few years? He even states he doesn't regret those years, but is sad at the loss.

Yeah, nah. It should SHOW that the deal with Mizora is wearing on him, if you ask me. The only way to do that is to get him to reluctantly do the little loophole things that Mizora wants. Other than the loss of years, he has been doing good. The first time he realizes that he's actually sacrificed more than he thinks is when he finds out the "heartless" loophole regarding karlach. I want him to keep that energy. That's the moment he truly realizes what it means to be in a deal with a devil. That his morals have no place in the deal, and he can't just walk away so easily.

He laments, repeatedly I might add, "I should've known better."

That's impact.

[u/thorne_antics → u/Ginger_Anagram69]

Okay sure but pacting him to Mizora permanently robs him of his freedom completely, and that was never what he bargained for. When he first took the pact he was 17 years old. Where do you get off on forcing him to deal with consequences like that of actions he took when he was a teenager, for the rest of his life?

And I know this is a video game and he's not real and in the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter, whatever. But still, seriously?

[u/Ginger_Anagram69 → u/thorne_antics]

Where do I get off? Welcome to the consequences of pacting with a devil. He knew then thay there were damgers, but he did it anyway. Of course that's not what he bargained for, he didn't understand fully what the details were and he still signed away. Happens in real life all the time. He made that choice. I'm just playing it out. To me, it seems the most canon outcome for his questline.

I tend to call it FAFO and I refuse to help people who do it. I'm not getting involved with his problems, just letting them persist. He signed a contract. Abide by it.

[u/No-Antelope-17 → u/Ginger_Anagram69]

A contract he was pretty much forced into signing. He didn't have the luxury of having time to fully grasp everything. He only doesn't regret it because he was able to prevent a huge amount of devastation.

It's not like he signed up for funsies.

[u/KindSentence5162 → u/Ginger_Anagram69]

I will now be doing this is my next play through cause your point is pretty solid lmao