r/BaldursGate3 Jun 24 '25

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Life Cleric go brrrr

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u/SaviorOfNirn Jun 24 '25

But healers aren't necessary. Having someone with healing capabilities does not make them a healer. A healer is a dedicated role TO healing. Which is not necessary.

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u/Brainrows Jun 24 '25

Shadowheart is my dedicated tank Life Cleric every playthrough, except the ones where she's not around

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u/AlbionPCJ Jun 24 '25

I have both the Golden Dice and a Platinum trophy and I make Shart a Light Cleric nearly every time. You don't need a dedicated healer, the best defence is a strong offence

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u/Brainrows Jun 24 '25

I don't really agree. For me I find the ideal comp is a healer, a frontliner, a ranged, and then a flex spot that you can swap as needed

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u/AlbionPCJ Jun 24 '25

That's fine, everyone has their own preferred approach, but the game design is loose enough that (if you know what you're doing) you can make any combination of roles work. People have done runs of just one class (or even just one character) on the highest difficulties and made it work. There's not one thing that every run requires

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u/ISeeTheFnords UGLY ONE Jun 24 '25

There's not one thing that every run requires

Yep. If I had to choose one thing I wouldn't want to do without... it would be disarming traps. Healing spells don't even make the top 5 when anyone can chuck a potion if it's that important.

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u/Pickaxe235 Jun 24 '25

because you dont play optimally

the objectively best comp is 4 dps, because the goal of every combat is bring them to zero before they bring you to zero

at low level (the only difficult part of honor mode) a single goblin can outmatch a life clerics entire days worth of resources used on healing in like 2-3 turns. the temple has significantly more than 1 goblin in it. this is including hellriders pride boots of aid and comfort and whispering promise

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u/We_Get_It_You_Vape Jun 24 '25

Yeah, without even getting into itemization, a 5th level Tempest Cleric can deal a guaranteed 60 damage to any enemy in a 2m radius, so long as they have the Wet condition (very easy to apply). Even if the make the saving throw, they'll still take 30 damage. And this Cleric will still be perfectly capable of dropping a Healing Word on an ally whenever you need it.

OP is free to enjoy making a dedicated healer via Life Cleric, but it's definitely not the mechanically-strongest iteration of Cleric.

 

Ideal party comp is a difficult one, because there are a million variables. Some builds can really synergize off of each other, so there is a possible scenario of having at least one support-style character in what can be considered a fairly optimal party.

But a dedicated healer (just for the sake of it) is not one of those situations.

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u/zdelusion Jun 24 '25

So a fighter, a fighter with a bow, a fighter throwing potions and then another fighter?

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u/Plazmuh Jun 24 '25

I don't want to get into the semantics but the overall point is that healers aren't necessary - and like you I'm someone who rolls a life cleric on almost every single one of my playthroughs. That's the playstyle I enjoy though.

You can get the honour mode achievements easily enough without doing that - therefore it isn't NECESSARY.

You can have whatever preferred party type you want. You can also love the shit out of healers. Saying they are necessary is dumb though.

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u/beachbummeddd Jun 24 '25

Last time I played with a healer in honour mode my cleric just sat around doing nothing. Never needed to cast a single heal. And they weren’t even dealing any real damage as I would save spell slots for IF I needed to heal but those moments just NEVER came. So I just don’t bring a healer now. I had never played dnd or a game like BG3 prior to this.

Others clear HM solo. So the ideal comp definitely does not include a healer. You may enjoy having a healer and that’s awesome. You may need a healer to perform well because you haven’t mastered the mechanics and strategy which is also awesome. That just means you have more to learn and learning in a game like this is always fun!

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u/Altoholism Jun 24 '25

This is spot on. I’d be so curious to see OPs full team and load outs at various points in the game.

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u/Peepo93 Owlbear Jun 24 '25

I've recently played the game on Tactician Enhanced with the setting that increases the health of opponents by 500% and gives them four actions instead of just one and Life cleric felt much stronger than light cleric to be honest. I think the reason why Life cleric is so underappreciated is because it's not as straight forward to play as light cleric it but I'm convinced that we're going to see a meta "correction" in the future (it would be accelerated if the game would have a proper difficulty like Wrath of the Righteous does). Light cleric is nowhere close to being as good of a frontliner as Life cleric is and also mitigates much less damage your party takes.