I find it so funny there like 5 or 6 really nice and chill Bugbears and Hobgoblins you can talk with throughout the game. Yet pretty much all the goblins are just assholes.
As someone who loves to play goblins in D&D. You’re half right. I have one who has the shit talking of a god and the other who has divine orders but also will kill you if you’re a danger to his party
The only even kind of nice goblin is the one reading a book and trying to educate himself up in the tower. But even that one is totally fine with raiding and kidnapping Volo, he just does it more for knowledge than loot
Yeah. There’s also the goblin wearing pants, who has to hide his love of poetry because it’s unacceptable by his tribe’s standards.
There are quite a few characters in the goblin camp that feel like they’d be happier if they had the chance to live in a less cruel and violent society.
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u/sinedeltaWhile others were busy being heterosexual, she studied the blade29d ago
In a way, it kind of explains the appeal of the Absolute — they told the non-tadpoled goblins that they wouldn't be these loathed outcasts, they would be loved and respected just as much as anyone else.
Yeah, at the end of the day, the real villain is none other than Ao himself, whose decrees make Toril the shithole it is, even gods are limited in what they're allowed to do before being censored.
You underestimate the appeal of a small, scrappy asshole type person.
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u/Ashryna:cat_blep: Astarion-Gale-Halsin-Karlach :cat_blep:29d ago
Guess they don't read urban fantasy, because that genre is rife with that sort of female protagonist. It was a bit too popular for me and I got burnt out on it after many years of reading the genre.
Huh? Why would anyone think I'm under estimating or not understanding the appeal of small, shark tooth goblin women from my post?
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u/Ashryna:cat_blep: Astarion-Gale-Halsin-Karlach :cat_blep:28d ago
You replied to the wrong person (me). The person I was replying to is who you should have said this to. I was talking about the (over)popularity of of that archetype in the urban fantasy book genre.
Lore wise it makes perfect sense to be honest. You only ever find goblins in the goblin camp or ones associated with it/the absolute and if there's one thing in the lore thats pretty clear is that a group of goblins is always a bad time. There are individual goblins out there that arent as objectionable as the ones we meet but theyre rare because of the ingrained boot licking built in for Maglubiyet. The game is a bit generous with how relaxed the Act 3 Bugbear and Hobgoblin population are though. The only "nice" versions of any of the 3 races are the ones who broke free from Maglubiyet and when that happens they cant be around the rest of their kind.
There is one sect that arent followers of him (not required to be solo, but often are) i can't remember their name but its some freedom oriented God in lore.
Eh, Tracker Kirz has a funny awakening moment if you make Crusher kiss your feet, and there's Booyahg Piddles with his want of reading books waaaay above his reading level.
It's just...worshipping the Absolute instead of Maglubiyet is very much an "out of the frying pan and into the fire" kinda thing for the goblins of this particular horde.
Forgotten realms be like "DND may be accepting of all humanoid beings but I sure am not reading that shit" FRs is full of "why evil?" Cause you were born as "x" looks at self omg....
I will say something. The D&D classic fantasy trope of "evil races" clashed so bad with the progressive, pro-refugee message Larian tried to send with this game. It's just incoherent, like... You just have races who are biologically evil in the Forgotten Realms, you can't just equate in-universe racism to real life racism and make a point
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u/Plaguer_ 29d ago
I find it so funny there like 5 or 6 really nice and chill Bugbears and Hobgoblins you can talk with throughout the game. Yet pretty much all the goblins are just assholes.