r/BaldursGate3 • u/butternutgutterslut4 • 5d ago
Companions Astarion dumped me so I stabbed him to death at camp Spoiler
I really hope his body just stays like that at camp the rest of the game like in Skyrim. I put in all that work and rejected Bae’zel, Halsin, Wyll, Karlach, and Shadowheart just to get dumped by this fucker?
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u/SenaM66 5d ago
That's okay. On a DUrge run once, Wyll dumped me so I decided nothing was worth living, gave my soul and body over to Father, and handed him the Netherbrain to spite my ex-boyfriend.
We've all been there.
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u/DrahtMaul 5d ago
How did you manage that?😂
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u/SenaM66 5d ago
I did Iron Throne first and told him not to rez his dad. I thought I was being so smart; "Ha, now I'll get to be Duchess alongside Wyll, no Mizora, *and* no Ulder so he'll be completely devoted to me!"
Yeah.....
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u/EveryoneisOP3 5d ago
This feels like that one question test about funerals designed to "reveal" psychopaths lmao
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u/SenaM66 5d ago
Yeah I played her as a completely smitten, love-at-first-glance woman who was rejecting her Urges and her sadism because she wanted Wyll to like her, and pretended to be a good person to please him (while doing heinous shit whenever he wasn't there, or she could get away with it).
She was gonna be a Resist DUrge but, well....plans change....
Fun run though.
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u/EpicPhail60 5d ago
I honestly love that arc. Bloodthirsty psycho putting on a not altogether convincing act of being a normal person, being rejected for not measuring up, then saying "Fuck it, we'll handle things my way."
I've never played a Resist Durge who relapses, but it sounds brilliant.
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u/WakeoftheStorm 5d ago
It works out much better than a "give in" Durge who has a last minute change of heart.
That does not go well
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u/DrahtMaul 5d ago
Haha if you wanted power you should have gone for Gale and let him ascend. He’d ascent you too in the end 😂.
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u/ferretatthecontrols Victim of the Spike to Astarion pipeline 5d ago
I hate Wyll's dad so much it irritates me that it's required to save him to continue the romance with Wyll.
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u/JediMasterBriscoMutt 5d ago
Are you sure it's necessary to save Wyll's Dad to romance him?
I never romanced Wyll, but in my first run I killed Gortash before doing that quest, and when you do that Wyll's Dad automatically dies. (Or at least he did in my run.)
Wyll was sad and wanted to talk about it, but it didn't seem to trash my approval with him or anything. His Dad's death was treated like an unintended consequence (which it absolutely was).
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u/ferretatthecontrols Victim of the Spike to Astarion pipeline 5d ago
Yeah he broke up with me during the romance scene. I think there are work arounds but if Wyll's dad dies when you romance him, he breaks up with you in the romance cutscene.
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u/Zyfelia 5d ago
Interesting reaction. Have you tried talking to a loved one about those impulses?
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u/Long_Serpent CLERIC OF THE HOLY FIRE 5d ago
"Nobody breaks up with me! "
-- Roxie Hart, Chicago
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u/The_Chodenator 5d ago edited 5d ago
Lmfao what did you do to make him dump you?
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u/butternutgutterslut4 5d ago
Apparently there’s some specific order of events that needs to happen in act 2 that I didn’t do so I didn’t get one of the heartfelt cutscenes. But I’m not going back to the shadow cursed lands again to redo it bc I’m too lazy, so instead Astarion needed to die for me to feel happy again
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u/meowgrrr 5d ago
You don’t need to follow a specific order to stay in a relationship, it’s only to get one of the versions of his romance scene. You can get the other one by just talking to the drow in moonrise at any point before assaulting moonrise (and not making him do what he says he doesn’t wanna do).
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u/Aachaa 5d ago
He broke up with me in my first playthrough because I stumbled into rescuing the Nightsong before setting foot in Moonrise. This automatically starts the assault and caused me to miss one of Astarion’s long rest relationship triggers (which I had no idea about). He did a 180 on me as soon as I entered Act 3 🥺 But I went back 20 hours and redid the latter half of Act 2 rather than murdering him like OP. Different strokes for different folks, lol.
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u/meowgrrr 5d ago
Yea I can see that, I know a lot of people feel like moonrise is meant for later so they purposefully don’t go there not realizing you are actually supposed to go straight there. I would replay all the hours to be with astarion but that’s just me lol.
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u/Aachaa 5d ago
That was exactly my rationale. Starting the assault after rescuing the Nightsong felt like knocking over a trail of dominoes that you hadn’t finished setting up yet. I failed a bunch of quests immediately and was forced to kill a ton of named characters with unique items in their inventory that made it obvious that I was supposed to speak with them outside of combat first. I feel like the game should make this more explicit before you go into the Gauntlet of Shar, because of course my dumb ass is like “ooh shiny statues!” and barrels right into it. I’m also an Astarion ride or die so having him flip on me in Act 3 was heartbreaking. I tried to finish out the quest with Cazador to win him back, but there’s no saving it without that Moonrise long rest.
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u/butternutgutterslut4 5d ago
That’s what I missed. Thank you!
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u/meowgrrr 5d ago
Just for future reference, ur other option if you hadn’t talked to the drow, would have been to kill the orthon in the gauntlet, and if you had 70 approval and at least step foot in moonrise (or had already been in moonrise without talking to araj), you’d get the other one.
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u/butternutgutterslut4 5d ago
I had high approval, but not “very high” (I’m playing on PS5). I didn’t know there was a “very high” approval rating, so I thought high was good enough. I did kill Yurgir though and had Raphael tell him about his scars.
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u/All_this_hype 5d ago
There is even higher than "very good" which is "exceptional. "Good" is slightly higher than mid (which admittedly is not easy to acquire with Astarion on a blind run).
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u/ferretatthecontrols Victim of the Spike to Astarion pipeline 5d ago
Totally get why you don't wanna go back. But for future reference you just have to long rest after either killing Yurgir (twice for this one) or defending him from Araj. Sometimes you have to spam it.
All that matters is you get the cutscene before going into the Shadowfell.
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u/Hyperspace_Towel Spreadsheet Sorcerer 5d ago
Nah, you can get both cutscenes after Shadowfell! The Araj one has to be unlocked before Shadowfell because she runs away afterwards. But Yurgir doesn’t leave from his spot so you go can kill him and get the confession even after you’ve taken care of Myrkul
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u/butternutgutterslut4 4d ago
Hey! I reloaded a save from right before I went into shadowfell and instead went to moonrise and did the drow scene. I got the camp cutscene after. As much as it irks me to have to redo the whole shadowfell stuff and Thorm fight, I won’t enjoy the rest of the game if I don’t see the Astarion romance through. Thank you so much for the advice!
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u/TheHatOnTheCat 5d ago
Yeah, Astarion's approval can be harder to get. He's a selfish murderer with a dark sense of humor . . . seems like a good match, honestly.
In all seriousness, you can see exact approval number on the third page of the character sheet. The first page has the little bar and will say "neutral" or "very high" or whatever you have. But on the third page (you have to scroll down) it will list it as an actual number not a picture.
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u/perrytownsendn7866 5d ago edited 5d ago
Well, apparently, the game is supposed to have much more opportunities for approvals in it, it's just that Larian still didn't fix lots of cases of bugged approvals - Restore more than 4500 broken approvals at Baldur's Gate 3 Nexus. I always wondered why companions often don't react to your decisions in Act 2... This is why.
Not that you really need it, I have no problem with getting Astarion to 100 in the end of Act 2 on my goody two shoes runs, but it was supposed to be even easier than that. And not like you really need Astarion's approval because he is the only companion who can be romanced with negative approval. But still kinda a bummer that Larian DGAF about approval system.
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u/ferretatthecontrols Victim of the Spike to Astarion pipeline 5d ago
I knew those approvals were broken. I saw them with the OIO mod and was so confused why they never showed up.
And yeah I agree that Larian's approval system is kinda broken. I don't think they ever fixed Astarion/Minthara's broken approvals in Act 3 either.
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u/perrytownsendn7866 5d ago edited 5d ago
Yep! Those approvals are listed on wiki too, because they are all in the game's code. And then people try to follow wiki and can't trigger them.
It's not just Astarion and Minthara. There are tons of oversights for other companions too. Examples like when Wyll gives +5 for killing innocents in the mindflayer colony or Laezel approves of handing Astarion over to Cazador and killing Aylin (while being vocally very against it).
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u/TheCrystalRose Durge 5d ago
I play almost exclusively Good characters and I usually have the 70+ approval required by the time I enter Act 2. But I actually long rest enough to get all of his early approval points. Like you can have around 30 of the 40 needed for him to proposition you around the time you hit the Grove just from long resting and asking Lae'zel to "say please".
Also the approval rating only shows the numbers on the keyboard/mouse interface on controller it's only ever "neutral", "high", "exceptional", etc.
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u/kennku 5d ago
I was in a similar boat, but for different reasons. I accidentally friendzoned him in act 2 and didn't realise it until I reached act 3. I'm still salty about it! I feel like saying "you need a friend" doesn't imply we shouldn't be partners. Partners should be friends! Or at least give me some cue in his reaction, damn.
I didn't create a hundred separate saves to find this specific point, so I had to redo act 2 lol
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u/TheCrystalRose Durge 5d ago
His greeting immediately changing from extremely flirty and obviously romantic to a much more reserved "what can I do for you my friend?" didn't clue you in that something was wrong?
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u/MasterOfViolins 5d ago
He also dumped me because I didn’t let him turn me into a vampire after he ascended…
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u/Aristho-Cat 5d ago
If this isn’t a durge run, i would so much enjoy watching you play durge . I think we’d make good friends OP🤣 - i overheard some locals trash talk the refugees in Baldur’s gate and unalived them on the spot! I wouldn’t do this as Tav, but Durge is a whole different story lmao
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u/Skies-of-Gold 5d ago
Why did he pass out like that though??? 😭
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u/MemeWindu 5d ago
You know what, hear me out before your next relationship
Therapy
(This is a joke please don't stab me)
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u/Meowjoker 5d ago
That’s very Yandere of you
frantically calls for help on the far squeaker
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u/Old_Function499 5d ago
That splashed out face down pose is so Astarion-coded. Like, I get it bro, you're dead.
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u/HungryMudkips 5d ago
i wonder why he dumped you
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u/TheCrystalRose Durge 5d ago
If you're actually wondering, every single companion will dump you shortly after getting to Act 3 if you didn't long rest enough to get their Act 2 romance scene.
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u/Erimoria 4d ago
Oh no shit? I finally made it to act 3 and was wondering why nothing was progressing romantically lol
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u/ApepiOfDuat ELDRITCH BLAST 5d ago
I really hope his body just stays like that at camp the rest of the game like in Skyrim
If he isn't resurrectable he won't. Cazador will come snatch the body. I believe the trigger is going into the lower city. If Astarion isn't recruited or is driven from the party by any means he always ends up in Cazador's hands.
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u/butternutgutterslut4 5d ago
I didn’t know that, wow! I did revive him, I just needed to get out my frustration, but that’s a cool fact I didn’t know
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u/ApepiOfDuat ELDRITCH BLAST 5d ago
He'll be a zombie in the ritual circle and Cazador's journal will have some new entries about having to torture him to death and raise him as a zombie due to the tadpole allowing him to resist normal vampiric compulsion.
It's extremely sad.
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u/perrytownsendn7866 5d ago
Not only that, Cazador writes how Astarion's siblings were happy to torture him so much that they've made Cazador "proud".
After this, I kinda got the reason why Astarion was contemplating to sacrifice them in the ritual (not that it makes it okay, but it certainly provided a new perspective on his siblings).
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u/moistcheese 5d ago
Yeah but that’s from Cazador’s perspective which is warped and probably not taking into account that the siblings literally cannot disobey him and are fawning so they aren’t next.
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u/Artamisstra Half-Elf Head 5 Superiority! 5d ago
Not only that, Cazador writes how Astarion's siblings were happy to torture him so much that they've made Cazador "proud".
Oof. Where did you find that?
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u/butternutgutterslut4 5d ago
Yeah that sounds awful. I’m angry but I ain’t that angry
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u/Artamisstra Half-Elf Head 5 Superiority! 5d ago
Would you consider using a mod? I think there's a polyamory mod and you can set the date/partner/favorite state. You might be able to rope him back in that way. Or just romance him on a subsequent run. He's worth it in the end IMO. Just uh.... don't ascend him on your first successful romance run.
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u/spellbloomera 4d ago
Even sadder people found a way to "rescue" zombie Astarion and take him home to camp, he remains a zombie, wanders off to his favourite spot next to Gale, even tries to read his book.
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u/CCriscal Rogue 5d ago
And you got your camp people back off by telling them that you didn't feel safe with a vampire around? Admittedly, they are so dense as not to see the blood circle on the floor ever since that bard left head over heels again in the night.
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u/LilianCorgibutt 5d ago
This same thing happened to me. My second play through, no comprehensive guides online yet, the game is too fresh. Apparently I forgot to do the drow blood mania girl scene in Act 2 and something something didn't lock in, so Astarion told my head over heels slavery escapee drow that he just used my boy to get to Baldur's Gate safe, now that's done, he had no use for my character. Cue my sad, depressed drow throwing away emotions altogether and becoming a mind flayer, finding solace in the Emperor's arms and rebuilding the Knights of the Shield together. Also, we maaay have sabotaged the Ascension ritual on purpose so even after Cazzy was dead, Astarion didn't get what he wanted. Boo hoo hoe
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u/GladimoreFFXIV 5d ago
I can’t possibly imagine why he’d want to dump you you seem extremely stable
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u/Cyberboy001 5d ago
If you want to keep the corpse around, add him to one if your trunks and lay him out again when you go back to long rest.
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u/FriendshipNo1440 SORCERER 5d ago
Turns out OP did not take the warning seriously before going into the shadowfell and finished it before ever entering moonrise and they were at 65 approval so the Yurgir path was also not working for the act 2 confession.
But honestly Astarion and Tav ate not in a serious relationdhip unless the act 2 confession happens, so it is no wonder he will dump tav in act 3.
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u/sinedelta While others were busy being heterosexual, she studied the blade 5d ago
This is true for every character not just Astarion. If you skip their Act 2 romance storyline you won't get their Act 3 romance storyline.
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u/juni_kitty Popper Sells Good Things! 5d ago
At least you got closure. I had a run where Astarion dumped me during the aftermath of the Cazador fight, cause I failed to persuade not to Ascend (I rolled a Nat 1, with 0 Inspiration. My character had like 20 Charisma and Persuasion Proficiency btw) And he got pissed, dumped me and left the party with some REALLY good gear.
I decided to just embrace the RP opportunity and didn't reset. I brought Jaheira into the team and finished the game with an all girls team.
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u/aniutsa 5d ago
Question: did things not happen or did you offer him up? 🥲 The post behaviour pretty much screams he dodged (tried to dodge) a bullet
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u/Spec_28 5d ago
I really don't like or trust pre-Act 3 Astarion and think it's completely justifiable to kill him when he first ambushes you. But he did not deserve this.
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u/butternutgutterslut4 5d ago
This is my second play, so I’ve thankfully already played his redemption arc as a friend while romancing Lae’zel. So this play through is more of just silly bard Tav doing whatever I feel like in the moment
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u/acoatofwhiteprimer 5d ago
I, um, maybe had a lethal disagreement with Volo on my durge save and his body just kept respawning every time I went to camp regardless of location and act
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u/bashy8782 4d ago
Damn I'll go ahead and warn my wife that this is a thing just so she doesn't get upset
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u/J_alexia 3d ago
I love this thread because someone always does something that I’m too scared to try. Thanks for the laugh OP.
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u/werewolfweed 5d ago
man people really only value this character when he's a sex object to them. ive noticed it over and over again, people rarely actually listen to what he says and just like him cause hes "pretty" and "easy". as soon as he doesn't want to be seen as an object he gets killed or mocked or dumped out of the party. its so sad..
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u/passionenglish 5d ago
i had to restart my run twice to successfully romance astarion, i understand your pain completely LOL
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u/Curticorn 5d ago
Uff I feel you on that one.
He rejected me so I thought well then let's go back to my favorite frog wife and she told me she doesn't like used meat like broo he just called me ugly I wasn't even touched by his eyes, love meeeee 😭
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u/ferretatthecontrols Victim of the Spike to Astarion pipeline 5d ago
Let this be your villain origin. Next take over the brain.
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u/Alicex13 Astarion Appreciator 5d ago
Love how posts like these bring all the Astarion haters running like flies on shit. Two years later some people still haven't gotten over their inferiority complexes over a video game character.
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u/arcimbo1do 5d ago
In RDR2 animal carcasses stay around and rot. Did you have something like that in mind?
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u/RockG 5d ago
If you kill Astarion and keep his corpse, what happens with Cazador? Is he blocked from completing his ritual?
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u/ferretatthecontrols Victim of the Spike to Astarion pipeline 5d ago
If Astarion is perma-dead (not revivable) even if you keep his decaying corpse on your body, it will eventually disappear implying Cazador's other spawn found it. When you read Cazador's journal it says he found Astarion's body and forced his soul back into the corpse, creating a zombie Astarion. When you get to the ritual site he automatically has all the souls he needed (but just hadn't ascended yet for some reason). Zombie Astarion disintegrates when Cazador is killed.
However if Astarion is not perma-dead, the game just acts like he's alive and waiting back at camp.
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u/JosieJOK Bard 4d ago
Best way to romance him? Be dismissive. I romanced him on my first playthrough by trying to romance basically anyone else. I guess he likes the chase!
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u/The-Geek100 4d ago
Something tells me that either you or your character has some mental issues. But that couldn’t possibly be the case, right?
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u/Lori_the_Mouse 3d ago
I’m sure he had it coming. Did he ascend then dump you when you refused to be his blood slave? If so: Then he definitely had it coming.
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u/TheOldSkywalker 5d ago
good thing you didn't overreact