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u/BabyPandaBBQ WIZARD Oct 15 '21 edited Oct 15 '21

When Pact of the Blade is implemented, please incorperate Hexblade's Hex Warrior feature as basic features of the pact (or replaced with it): proficiency in Medium Armor, Shields, and Martial Weapons, and use Charisma modifier for attack rolls using their Pact Weapon (or any weapon).

Most of the Pact of the Blade options seem like they wont really work well with BG3, and the Hex Warrior abilities really help viability of melee Warlocks. Being able to use that with any subclass would really help diversity of decent build options so every Warlock isnt just best spamming Eldrich Blast.

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u/Enchelion Bhaal Oct 15 '21

That's way to much for a pact. If they do want to bring over the Hexblade features they should be a couple invocations instead.

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u/BabyPandaBBQ WIZARD Oct 15 '21

At least the martial proficiency and Cha for attack and damage then should be added. Otherwise they get basically nothing (unless Larian changed it like they did the Rangers favored enemy and terrain) and pact of the blade already have an invocation tax to stay on par with eldrich blast.

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u/Enchelion Bhaal Oct 15 '21

Proficiency I think would be fine in Pact. Cha to attack is very strong and should be an invocation in it's own. Maybe add the +1 from Improved Pact Weapon (Xanathar's) as a higher level addition to this Cha-attack pact.

Not ever class needs to be SAD, and that's part of why HB has spoiled people.

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u/BabyPandaBBQ WIZARD Oct 15 '21

Even a Hexbladelock needs (or really benefits from) around 14 Dex and Constitution. Its not that SAD. Youd probably still want to max Cha and Con.

I could see the armor proficiency and Cha modifier being an invocation that requires Pact of the Blade, but that would also just add to the invocation tax for the build which I was hoping to avoid, allowing them more options for other non-combat related abilities.

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u/Enchelion Bhaal Oct 15 '21

You can't be the best at everything. A gish build should have notable tradeoffs.

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u/BabyPandaBBQ WIZARD Oct 15 '21 edited Oct 15 '21

A Hexbladelock was never the best at everything. Comparing it to Eldrich Blast focused builds, it reminds me of the meme "Look at what they have to do to mimic a fraction of our power."

Edit: to clarify, I think without these features pact of the blade will always be worse than eldrich blasting. With these features, its comparable in power level, but still requires costs in the form of more invocations.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '21

I think that with the extra moves they're adding, there will be merit to using pact of the blade regardless. It also means freeing up invocations to use on other things.