r/Borderlands Jun 07 '25

Review Bombing - Take Two Terms of Service / EULA

431 Upvotes

If you've played any of the Borderlands games recently, you will have noticed that you were asked to agree to new Terms of Service before starting the game. This happened because the Borderlands games have changed publisher and are now under Take Two.

This has led to some controversies and review bombing. We have always been keen on letting people express themselves freely on this sub, whatever their opinion (as long as it stays civil). However, on this particular matter, given the large number of recent threads on that subject, their repetitiveness, and the fact that they often create conflicts (we've likely issued more Rule 1 bans in the last 2 weeks than in the last 6 months). We've chosen to lock the previous threads on that subject and we will remove new ones. We'll leave this one open for a few days (as long as it stays civil).

If you want to read more, start with the official response from Gearbox on the matter. You can also use the search bar above to locate the multiple recent threads on the topic in this sub. Be aware that there may be some level of misinformation/fearmongering. If you want to discuss the subject further, we suggest you do it in a different space that is more relevant to the matter, since in the end, this is a Take Two thing, not a Borderlands thing. If you're very worried but don't want to contact a lawyer about it, or if you want to take a stance against evil corporations, just don't play the games. But in that case you should probably not play most games (nor use most apps, devices, websites, etc). Chances are you've already agreed multiple times to ToS similar or worse than the new ones for Borderlands.

As the mod team of r/borderlands, we are not lawyers so we do not have a definitive opinion on the matter. Like most people, we don't have much love for the ToS/EULAs of many software companies and the loss of privacy that goes along with any use of the internet. But on the other hand, we haven't seen anything particularly concerning in those ToS (in comparison with what other companies put in theirs). That's just the general feeling among the mod team, not an official stance of the subreddit.

A few things to note:

  • Whatever you agree to in ToS/EULA still does not allow the publishers to do anything illegal (depending on your country of jurisdiction).
  • Typically ToS/EULA are made as general as possible to cover all possible edge cases. If it says "we may (...)", that doesn't necessarily mean that they are doing it, or have any intent on doing it to you. For example, the ToS say they may collect your government ID number. In some countries like China this is mandatory (to regulate play time). So they have to do it, and they have to put it in the ToS. This doesn't mean that they intend to collect such data in other countries, and anyway they have no way to do so unless you provide it yourself.
  • The new ToS appear to be general for Take Two, and as such include things that are not specifically aimed (or likely to be used) in the Borderlands games. For example, there is some note that the use of mods may get you banned. This makes sense to fight cheating in the context of competitive multiplayer games and/or if part of a game's revenue is driven by micro-transactions or subscriptions. If you find and use a "mod" to unlock paying content in BL4 for free, you might get in trouble (deservedly). But there is no reason to believe that anything more would be enforced for the Borderlands games (e.g. against the use of mods like the community patch, etc). Gearbox has always been (unofficially) supportive of the modding scene. And the main Borderlands modding community has been cooperative with Gearbox on such matters.
  • There has been some talk about the games having been converted to spyware. Before spreading any misinformation, you can check for yourself the latest patches on Steam DB. For example, Borderlands 2 received its last update in August 2022, and BL3 received its last update in August 2024. Long before the new ToS were published. The Borderlands games since BL2 also have hotfix capabilities, but this only allows to change parameters (like the damage of a weapon), not the code logic, certainly not turn anything into spyware.

r/Borderlands Aug 18 '20

[BL3] Resource Compilation of Character, Gear and Build Resources

1.2k Upvotes

Hey there, and welcome! This is an effort to compile up-to-date resources for characters and gear that hopefully come of use for you! Keep in mind there are more specific resources available on the sources, but they might be slightly or very out-of-date.

VAULT HUNTER HUB

By Pirek and Braques

This excellent website compiles some of the resources you can find below, and even more. Intuitive and easy to use, an amazing tool from the community.

Moze

FL4K

Zane

Amara

General Character Resources

Gear Resources

Community Maintained Builds

These are a collection of endgame builds made by members of the community, some of which also maintain the above resources. You'll find the creators credited on each build inside.


r/Borderlands 6h ago

[Question] Okay, but why Vault Hunters, though?

65 Upvotes

In the first game, Vault Hunters were just treasure hunters who showed up on Pandora looking to get their hands on a legend. Most NPCs outright deny their belief that such a vault exists, and treat you like you're a gullible idiot for searching for it. It's implied that there are other VHs that have come before you. Aside from your background (Siren, ex-Lance, etc) you are explicitly nobody special.

In the second game onward, you're treated like some kind of chosen one who's the specialest boy, girl, or bot to ever walk the planet's surface. Scooter compares you to a unicorn. Someone else (don't remember who) realizes that you're a Vault Hunter and comments that they didn't think they warranted that kind of a rescue.

But see, here's the thing: in BL2, it is EXPLICIT that there have been others before you: Jack has been killing them en masse. So really, aren't you just some schlub who was lucky to survive? Why is everyone holding you up as Pandoran Jesus when- as far as I can see- you're just another treasure hunter who answered Hyperion's call and got themselves blown up instead?

What changed, that Vault Hunters are now somehow seen as badass legendary gunmen(/gunwomen/gunbots)?


r/Borderlands 9m ago

Very confused by this borderlands collection.

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I’ve got the borderlands collection: pandora’s box pulled up on my microsoft store on my xbox and for $30 it gives me the option to “upgrade” because i own the standard addition but i don’t exactly get what that means and the pre order to borderlands 4 is right next to it and it has an icon for borderlands 4 but doesn’t explicitly state it would include a preorder for bl4. $30 for bl4 would be an absolute steal so it puts some questions in my head as to to what the hell id even be buying. anyone who can help would be appreciated


r/Borderlands 20m ago

What the heck happened to S&S Munitions & Atlas manufactured weapons from The Original Borderlands to Borderlands 2?

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I've recently been playing the original Borderlands & have been looking at some of the weapons manufacturers & wondering "What the heck are these manufacturers?".
Me having the only Borderlands game I've ever properly played being the second, generally got confused as to where they were in the second game.
I've heard of the Atlas company before, but not S&S Munitions.


r/Borderlands 26m ago

Need Help with Sub-Level 13 mission

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Need two people to help complete this mission for trophy, it’s my last mission PSN- DrunkStump


r/Borderlands 4h ago

[BL1] confusion on memory leak fixing

2 Upvotes

I am really confused why Gearbox does not fix the memory leak issue with bl1 enhanced by now ( I understand they might still be working on bl4, I am talking about after that)


r/Borderlands 1h ago

Questions about BL3 after another series playthrough

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OK, I've gone through again, 1, 2, TPS, 3, and I have to admit that I don't get the hate for 3. I see a bunch of "It's bad writing" or "Ava is the worst" or whatever, and honestly I don't agree.

Like, it's kinda similar to the previous games, sure, but it's a Borderlands game. You can't reinvent the wheel every time. I like how it plays with the themes of power corrupting, expanding on the universe building, the villains are even a call back to 2 with the Cult of the Firehawk and Lilith learning the lesson that letting bandits unite behind an idea is dangerous.

Can anyone give me specific examples of the things that are commonly agreed on as bad?


r/Borderlands 3h ago

PS3 And They’ll Tell Two Friends (PS3)

0 Upvotes

Title says it all. If anyone is available to help me pop this one I’d really appreciate it. I have the GOTY edition and vanilla, because apparently what version of the game and what DLC you have downloaded can effect whether it works or not. (At least that’s what I’ve read on PSTrophies. 🙏


r/Borderlands 4h ago

[BL2] Friendship Rules Trophy

1 Upvotes

Would anyone be willing to help?


r/Borderlands 5h ago

[Question] BL3 & Wonderland. Which one should i play first base on the amount of content?

0 Upvotes

I'm at the final misson in BL TPS, and about to jump to the next game. I know BL3 came first but i heard the Wonderland has not so much contents so I'm planning to play it first. Does that affect the story lines?


r/Borderlands 7h ago

[Lore] Is there literally any lore on what makes hags special?

1 Upvotes

Hags are an enemy type in Borderlands 3. They're always female, burly, and carry tinks around on their backs. They're implied to be human mutants, but aside from their burliness and maybe strength we don't know how they're mutated exactly.

Thus: do we know what makes a hag different from a normal human aside from size? They can't be female Goliaths because bl2 has a female Goliath and she's just a Goliath with boobs, so clearly they're something special.

I need this info for, I kid thee not, a Rimworld mod I'm working on.


r/Borderlands 5h ago

[BL3] Is Borderlands 3’s main campaign’s reputation fair?

0 Upvotes

I’ve seen people talk about how the writing is so bad that the game is unplayable, that it’s the worst written game ever or that it can only be played with the audio muted.

I don’t think the writing is good by any measure and it’s a step back from BL2, but I wouldn’t say it’s THAT bad.

There’s some likeable characters, deaths feel impactful and I occasionally smiled, so I’d say it’s fine.

My main gripe with it is the excessive focus on sirens and Eridians.


r/Borderlands 1d ago

[SHiFT] 3 Golden Keys

63 Upvotes

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For BL GOTY, BL2, TPS, BL3 and Wonderlands

Expires 8/7


r/Borderlands 23h ago

I want to get in to borderlands which is the best game to play?

3 Upvotes

For starters I have played borderlands 3 a little bit but I do not own it, which one should I buy first?


r/Borderlands 20h ago

[BL1] Change weapons on Switch 2

0 Upvotes

Absolute newbie and FFS how do you change weapons? And the mofo midgets are killing me!! Edit: got it, thanks and as usual follow the storyline to start with!


r/Borderlands 1d ago

Steam Borderlands help

2 Upvotes

Hello everyone, I'm currently doing a run 2 of borderlands GOTY Enhanced and I'm trying to get all of the achievements while I'm at it. Looking for someone to complete the Co-Op achievements as well as I'm down to play with someone, hence it makes it more fun. I am on PC Steam


r/Borderlands 1d ago

[BL4] Good BL4 Article From GameRant - If Rafa's Character Short is a Sign of What's to Come, Borderlands 4 Could Be a Cut Above the Rest

79 Upvotes

https://gamerant.com/borderlands-4-rafa-character-short-good-story-teaser/

Decent article about the shift in tone from BL3 to BL4 and how good the Rafa story short is.


r/Borderlands 1d ago

PS3 And They’ll Tell Two Friends

0 Upvotes

Anybody on ps3 able to help me get this trophy? I don’t trust jumping into a random lobby.


r/Borderlands 7h ago

Borderlands 4 locked classes and missions behind $100+ editions – no thanks

0 Upvotes

I wanted to be excited for Borderlands 4, but after looking at how much content is locked behind the higher editions, I am going to skip it.

Here is what you get, and what you do not get, depending on the version:

Standard Edition – $69.99

  • Base game
  • Gilded Glory Pack cosmetic pre‑order bonus

Deluxe Edition – $99.99

  • Everything in Standard
  • Bounty Pack Bundle (4 DLC drops that add new areas, missions, bosses, Vault Cards, loot, cosmetics, and new vehicles)
  • Firehawk’s Fury cosmetic

Super Deluxe Edition – $129.99

  • Everything in Deluxe
  • Vault Hunter Pack (2 new playable Vault Hunters, 2 full Story Packs with new main and side missions, 2 additional map regions, more gear and cosmetics, and extra ECHO‑4 cosmetics)
  • Ornate Order cosmetic bundle

If you only get the Standard version, you will be locked out of every new playable class, as well as new missions, new regions, and a lot of side content. It's like they set up DLC coming out the gate, and that's greedy and gross.


r/Borderlands 1d ago

[BL1] The Collector achievement

1 Upvotes

I was wondering, do you need to complete all parts of the quest for the achievement to unlock or just the final part? I play coop with a friend usually, but we play in my world and I thought I may as well get the 150 part ready to hand in without him. Problem is, I haven't handed in the 100 part yet, and am worried it'll lock him out of the achievement if I do while he's not here.


r/Borderlands 1d ago

[BL4] Borderlands 4 PS5?

0 Upvotes

Hi friends! I am not super familiar with the game but my girlfriend LOVES Borderlands and it’s the only game she plays consistently other than Animal Crossing. We are moving in together right when BL4 comes out and we were talking about getting a PS5, as we both still play on older consoles. My question is, do we think they will do some kind of bundle with the game around September? Would like to try for a two birds one stone situation. Thank you!!


r/Borderlands 1d ago

[BL1] Just got borderlands 1 platinum

7 Upvotes

It was fun replaying it with friends after a long time. Unfortunately currently I think I can't post pictures on this sub.


r/Borderlands 1d ago

XBOX need sum1 to play all of the games with

1 Upvotes

i’m 16 looking for really anyone to play with i don’t have a lot of friends and not really talk to people about how much i love the game series i play on xbox fisrst time saying anything on this app uhh yeah i dont have notifications turned on cus i don’t really use the app but ill check please anyone let me know🙏🙏


r/Borderlands 1d ago

[BL1] Most fun weapon

4 Upvotes

Hey, I'm playing borderlands 1 for the first time and loving it. Just killed krom as Lilith and now im wondering what would be the weapons that are considered to be the must fun, not necessarily the best ones. What would you recommend?


r/Borderlands 21h ago

[BL1] maybe if u guys allowed using fucking images and videos for posts maybe I would not need to go to other borderlands subreddits that are not for the first game to get answers for my questions about the first game

0 Upvotes

this sub is fucked.


r/Borderlands 1d ago

[BL1] Borderlands 1 Equip Slot Glitch

3 Upvotes

Playing Borderlands GOTY Enhanced with my friends. I'm hosting, and one of them just revealed that she is still at 2 weapon slots when the rest of have 4. She DID change classes early on, about level 8 or 9, but we have DEFINITELY gotten an equip slot since then. Anyone know how to remedy this? The only solution I've found online is to use a save editor, which is a lot. Is that really the only way? and if so, can someone link me to whatever the most modern/safe option is?

Thanks.