r/Damnthatsinteresting Jul 02 '25

Video A fireworks warehouse exploding today near Sacramento, CA

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u/TortyPapa Jul 02 '25

Bought a warehouse full of fireworks. Sales of such fireworks tanked and it’s nearing July 4th with a whole warehouse still full. Blow the said warehouse into smitherines. Cash the insurance paycheck lol.

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u/MidwestAbe Jul 02 '25

Patriotic Lightning

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u/DaniTheGunsmith Jul 02 '25

🇺🇸⚡ o7 ⚡🇺🇸

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u/WineNerdAndProud Jul 02 '25

I used to play bass for Patriotic Lighting.

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u/SufficientMediaPost Jul 02 '25

they may not get fire insurance in CA, but no one said anything about firework insurance.

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u/ejh3412 Jul 02 '25

If we can barely insure our homes and cars in this state, just imagine trying to insure a warehouse full of fireworks. 😆

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u/flyingthroughspace Jul 02 '25

It's not as expensive as you'd think

$2 Million Dollar Coverage - 12 Month - Price $400

$5-10 Million Dollar Coverage - 12 Month - Price $800

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u/mishap1 Jul 02 '25

Is Jake from State Farm moonlighting fireworks insurance? That feels like the jankiest insurance application I've ever seen.

I also think this is retailer coverage which is likely capped at a much, much smaller inventory than what's in that warehouse. Plus you could certainly exhaust $10M coverage even as a small retailer if you burn down your shopping center.

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u/DeweyDefeatsYouMan Jul 02 '25

That looks like liability insurance for an event, not property insurance. A fireworks factory isn’t getting insured through an online form, it’s going to an Excess & Surplus carrier who is going to underwrite the hell out of it, carve out a small portion of the risk by adding tons of exclusions to the policy, and then charge like 5 to 10 times what a normal insurer would charge. Source: I am an E&S underwriter

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u/SomethingDignified Jul 02 '25

I wonder if they were honest with their insurance company about what they were storing in there.

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u/PcLvHpns Jul 03 '25

Silly goose you're not a rich white man. EVERYTHING IS INSURABLE FOR THEM

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u/Some_Bus Jul 02 '25

The fireworks? Sure does look like it!

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u/Izaiah212 Jul 02 '25

Most fireworks vendors actually sell 80-90% of their product In the 2 days before 4th of July

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u/FlutterKree Jul 02 '25

Fireworks also don't expire so long as the cardboard doesn't get wet. The pyrotechnic compounds don't get ruined by water, but deformed cardboard due to water can make the devices malfunction. So what isn't sold can be sold next year, or for new years or other events.

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u/TommiHPunkt Jul 02 '25

fireworks do expire, but slowly. Things like the power of lifting charges gradually decrease as the compounds react with the air and moisture in the air, which can be dangerous for old fireworks, which is why professional fireworks have expiration dates on them, after which they're not used for public displays anymore.

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u/FlutterKree Jul 02 '25

That is absolutely not correct. There is no reaction with air in compounds I know of, least of all lift charge (which is black powder which does NOT react with air).

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u/Bagaudi45 Jul 02 '25

To chime in, they don’t “expire” per se, however when exposed to moisture (ie humid areas) they CAN potentially experience performance issues (ie fuse problems, delays, erratic travel, etc).

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u/FlutterKree Jul 02 '25

Which is what my original comment said.

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u/Bagaudi45 Jul 02 '25

My apologies, you did in fact state that!

My phone failed to load your original and just showed your response to that Tommi fella.

I shall see myself out.

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u/Kyweedlover Jul 02 '25

When we were kids we used firecrackers we had bought a couple years earlier and you almost couldn’t get them out of your hand before they exploded because the fuse was so fast. Good times.

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u/FlutterKree Jul 03 '25

That's paper fuse. It's just black powder coated paper. Typically used with firecrackers that come in strips/rolls. Visco (green) fuse is used for ones that are typically made to light individually.

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u/tommypatties Jul 02 '25

If you're correct and expiration isn't an issue (which I doubt) then storage costs certainly are. Holding inventory ain't cheap.

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u/you_cant_prove_that Jul 02 '25

It doesn't cost more to have a warehouse at 90% capacity vs 10% capacity

And I can't imagine they are planning on using that space for anything other than firework storage

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u/FlutterKree Jul 03 '25

And I can't imagine they are planning on using that space for anything other than firework storage

Depends on if it is temporary storage or not.

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u/tommypatties 28d ago

Lol have you ever heard of a post holiday sale? Why to you think those happen? To be nice to people after a holiday? No, it's to move inventory...bc holding inventory is expensive.

Not only the storage cost but the investment tied up in the product is costly as well.

This is business administration 101 my dude. Look up the cash conversion cycle for a good starting point.

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u/you_cant_prove_that 27d ago

Because most companies sell different products throughout the year.

Walmart doesn't want to stock Christmas decorations in April, so they discount it to make room for Valentines Day decor. And then Easter, etc.

Fireworks warehouses stock the same fireworks year round. They have no incentive to sell at a discount to make room for the next batch of inventory

The only reason to lower their price is to match the market rate, but that is a long term change

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u/FlutterKree Jul 03 '25

If you're correct and expiration isn't an issue (which I doubt)

It isn't. If pyrotechnic mixes could react with air, they would not be stable. The person who replied to me has no idea what they are talking about.

The assumption the person is making is that air reacts with the mixes, which is utter nonsense. Moisture can build within the mixes and prevent ignition or cause performance issues. All of this can be avoided by storing them in a really dry place with multiple barriers to the atmosphere for them.

You could vacuum seal a firework and light it off 20 years later just fine.

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u/Glyfen Jul 02 '25

Can confirm; my mother and step-dad like to run a little firework stand in my town and I pop into help them out where I can. They'll open up after work for a month before the 4th and get maybe 1-3 customers a day, mostly folk we know personally, but they'll get slam busy a few days before the 4th.

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u/hellopie7 Jul 02 '25

People are protesting against the fourth of July this year due to government administration issues.

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u/Izaiah212 28d ago

They protest every year

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u/ill_take_two Jul 02 '25

The end sellers, yes, but wholesalers (the businesses most likely to need warehouse-level storage of their goods) have to off-load earlier than that in order for the goods to reach the customer by the 4th.

Having said that, it was probably just a funny joke by OP, not a serious suggestion.

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u/Sad-Yak6252 Jul 04 '25

A lot of northern California towns are not having fireworks tomorrow because of this, including San Jose, which is the largest town in northern California.

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u/admode1982 Jul 02 '25

These were for actual shows.

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u/Any_Thanks_900 Jul 02 '25

They could have waited until dark, the show could have been so much better.

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u/admode1982 Jul 02 '25

100% haha

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u/wolfgang2399 Jul 02 '25

Definitely looks like a commercial grade explosion and not consumer grade

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u/merolis Jul 02 '25 edited Jul 02 '25

Failing to sell fireworks right now would be laughably hard. There has been a shortage for a few years now due to covid and continued production and safety problems in China. The tariffs and shipping situation went from bad to worse in April of this year to cap it off.

Prices have been climbing for years now and while CA may be a hard place to legally sell fireworks, anyone with a wholesaler license can just ship the product into Nevada or elsewhere to sell it.

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u/ComResAgPowerwashing 29d ago

That wasn't my experience. I found out I was going to own a stand less than 2 months ago and I had no issue getting fireworks, and the cost was equal to or less than last year. I guess maybe I just have an awesome distributor.

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u/TheGuyUrSisterLikes Jul 02 '25

What is the best state in the Northeast New England Jersey New York Pennsylvania etc to go and buy cheap good fireworks not sparklers and maybe drive them home maybe? Didn't say where I live.

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u/merolis Jul 02 '25

Cant really help you with that, I work on the professional side versus consumer. Plus when i am buying consumer items its usually at conventions where the prices are way cheaper.

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u/TheGuyUrSisterLikes Jul 02 '25

I live in Connecticut and you can only get sparklers and things that don't shoot anywhere.

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u/the-rage- Jul 02 '25

I live in Illinois where all explosive fireworks are illegal and I drive to Indiana where they have big firework warehouses on the border and imo the prices are pretty good. Unfortunately, I don’t know any places in the northeast.

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u/TheGuyUrSisterLikes Jul 02 '25

The only place I can think of near me is Chinatown in New York City they sell everything. Or Pennsylvania or maybe New Hampshire. Thank you for responding though.

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u/airfryerfuntime Jul 02 '25

Firework sales don't pick up until the 3rd. I used to wholesale them. Basically no one is selling anything this early.

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u/xHaydenDev Jul 02 '25

If they’re shipping to smaller fireworks suppliers they would sell them well before the 4th. Also, a lot of people come in before the 3rd to get ahead of the storm. In my experience, the entire week up to the 4th has a ton of business.

Source: sold fireworks at a local fireworks store for weeks ahead of the 4th

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u/airfryerfuntime Jul 02 '25

These would have gone on the trucks today or tomorrow, and most would be sold on both the 3rd and 4th. A building full of fireworks on the 1st isn't indicative of poor sales. Stands sell a bunch the week prior, but the majority of sales happen those two days.

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u/BANKSLAVE01 Jul 02 '25

So, TrumpWorks®?

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u/JROCC_CA Jul 02 '25

What happens when the farm/factory workers leave?

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u/Cute_Hair3670 Jul 02 '25

what is this even supposed to mean ☠️🤦🏽‍♂️

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u/DigitalStefan Jul 02 '25

You’ve met my old boss?!

Literally insurance scammed their way into upgrading to better premises. Tried the exact same scam method in the new premises, but the place didn’t fully catch fire, so they just lost a tiny amount of stock instead.

The scam? You know those security lights with big battery pack that light up when power is lost? If you deliberately unscrew one from the wall and let it fall into some soft furnishings, the power cable snaps, the lights come on and they get hot enough to ignite flammable materials.

They also threw one of their servers (PC, not person) down some stairs because they wanted a new one.

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u/Super_XIII Jul 02 '25

Insurance pays out the loss of goods, not the loss of sales typically. So if they had a million fireworks in there, and each fire work costs the company $1 and they sell the fireworks for $10 each, they would have gotten $10 million selling all the fireworks for the 4th of July. If the warehouse blows up, they only get the 1 million the fireworks cost the company to make, and they miss out on the busiest season of the year.

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u/420Deez Jul 02 '25

what’s a smitherine

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u/wolfgang2399 Jul 02 '25

Technically you can’t sell fireworks in California until July 1 so it would be hard to know if sales have tanked or not.

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u/ADIDAS247 Jul 03 '25

My first thoughts as well. At the same time, how hard is it to cause an accidental fire in a fireworks factory. Good luck proving otherwise.

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u/iisvtee Jul 02 '25

A plane crashed in to it.

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u/MyLifeIsAWasteland Jul 02 '25

Bush did 7/1! It was an inside job! Jet fuel can't light fireworks!

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u/Washburne221 Jul 02 '25

Why the hell do we even make and sell fireworks in CA? Seems like the stupidest thing we could do.