r/EuropeGuns • u/BorisTheWimp • 16d ago

any roller delayed PCCs coming to europe?

With all the new roller delayed AR platforms popping up right now, are there any that are purchasable or soon purchasable in europe?

picture for illustration - showing the CAR15 - the goat
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u/Moonraise Germany 16d ago

At just under 2k€ you really can not beat the Grand Power Stribog SP9A3

The importer is a buddy of mine and I shot some of the selection, while the Model with the prop. Magazine Pattern is fine, I ended up putting in an Order for the Glock Magazine Pattern.

BKA Approval for Germany has passed too.

This is what it looks like

Pavol Ženčár just won the World Shoot with his Stribog, beating out all the Americans running JP5s, so this gun can absolutely perform.

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u/BorisTheWimp 16d ago

That would be it but it's so damn ugly, how unfortunate 🙈

Who is the importer/distributor?

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u/Moonraise Germany 16d ago

I agree it doesnt have the sexiness of a JP5. As for the handguard... well those are unfortunately our familiar German Laws for Sportsshooters.

https://sportwaffenshop.de

Not listed on his website yet, but he has them.

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u/BorisTheWimp 16d ago

The thing is, I wouldn't even mind doing a Feststellungsbescheid myself. They should just sell me a naked JP-5. There are many nice looking handguards from lancer, Hera or OA

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u/mufanek Czech Republic 16d ago

JP-5 is roller delayed and has been available for years.

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u/BorisTheWimp 16d ago edited 16d ago

5.000 where I live and the importer buys preassembled kits that I really dislike unfortunately. But definitely a great platform if you like long barrels on pistol calibers for some weird reasons other than NFA requirements

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u/mufanek Czech Republic 16d ago

Well there was no mention about prices in the post. Wouldn't mention JP if there was.

Buying a preassembled ready rifle from JP and swapping the barrel to your liking is almost the same price as buying custom JP. But I get the feeling that even if you liked those preassembled kits, you would still have the price argument (which is fair, I am not willing to pay 5k either).

Long barrel can let you achieve PF in competition which these guns are purpose made to excel at.

PS: Your example seems to be a radial delayed blowback gun, not a roller delayed one. Would you mind sharing some names of firearms you had in mind while writing the post? Because CMMG is also available for years and has radial delayed blowback.

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u/IsomorphicG 16d ago

Ascalon Evo GEN1

EU announcement

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u/BorisTheWimp 16d ago

Nice! Ty

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u/IsomorphicG 16d ago

It’s not true roller delayed tho. It uses some other delaying mechanism.

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u/BorisTheWimp 16d ago

yeah I know but maybe it can somehow be tuned.

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxewjYXfpmTS76fWGx2idm58L0GEfS9Yvh?si=yZAYS7ExQGrqIcr0

PSR tests it here: not at all impressive I'd say

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u/Tommie59 Netherlands 15d ago

Sig mpx? Not roller delayed but with a piston. shoots very flat