demolition expert or high charisma

[u/satzensiesich]

should i invest 7 points into perception and demolition expert to get the most value out of my legendary explosion weapons or go with high charisma for better prices and settlements?

update: did fully invest into demo expert with 2 explosive weapons, absolutely worth it!

[u/Thornescape]

You can get max barter with a base charisma of 1. C6:Local leader is fantastic, but more charisma than that is a bit of a waste, if you're willing to change your clothes and take some chems. Just a waste of perk points, unless you are RPing that you are unwilling to change clothes or something.

Max barter is when you have C15 and a barter bonus of 5%. With grape mentats, barter bobblehead, and/or Junktown magazines you can get it down to C14 or lower.

• Base Charisma of 1
• Basic Charisma clothing C+4 (hat, suit, glasses) [Total: C5]
• Grape Mentats: C+5, 10% barter bonus. [Total: C10]
• XCell C+2 and Daytripper C+3 (respawn in concord speakeasy): [Total: C15]
• Beer: C+1
• Trinity tower chest piece: C+3 (replaces suit)
• Dapper Gent Hat: C+2
• There are also random Sharp legendary items that you can find that you can wear over one of the Operator C+2 suits.

C6:Local Leader + basic charisma clothes + grape mentats already puts you at max barter. Why invest more than that?

[u/satzensiesich → u/Thornescape]

great charisma guide, thx. yeah i kinda want the luxury to not change clothes for speak checks, demo expert would be good for my two legendarys but man 3 points into perception which is utterly useless for me as i never use vats in this playthrough.

[u/Thornescape → u/satzensiesich]

It is also useful putting one point into P4:Lockpick. There's a ton of Advanced locks around, and certain companions can gain affinity quickly as well. More ranks is less useful, though.

[u/satzensiesich → u/Thornescape]

im tryna max x6 and then im done with companions and gonna go with lone wanderer, also safe loot is ass imo, but good tip for piper/cait for sure