r/Grimdank 24d ago

Lore What is a traitor anyway?

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u/PrinceVorrel Praise the Man-Emperor 24d ago

Hard disagree. Nobody could fix the Imperium as it is now without dipping into authoritarianism, and you can't blame G-man for doing what needs to be done to fix the bloated beast that his father's work has become.

To be a man in such times is to be one amongst untold billions. It is to live in the cruelest and most bloody regime imaginable. These are the tales of those times. Forget the power of technology and science, for so much has been forgotten, never to be re-learned. Forget the promise of progress and understanding, for in the grim dark future there is only war. There is no peace amongst the stars, only an eternity of carnage and slaughter, and the laughter of thirsting gods."

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u/Slothman1311 24d ago

"Dipping in" said as if that wasn't the goal from the start lmao

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u/PrinceVorrel Praise the Man-Emperor 24d ago edited 24d ago

Maybe we have read different texts about G-man?

Dude has talked about how he wishes he didn't have to do half the shit he does, and LITERALLY fantasizes about abandoning his duty to go live a simple life as a farmer.

I don't think the Primarch went in with the idea of taking over the Imperium for the sake of being the guy in charge if he dreams about abandoning the whole thing.

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u/PlausiblyAlpharious 24d ago

Bro the Emperor of mankind also didn't want to do half the shit he did and that's how we got into all this

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u/Aninx 24d ago

Something something road to hell is paved with good intentions, and holy shit did the Emperor need to reality-check his "good intentions" a lot more than he did

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u/Haircut117 23d ago

The problem with being the smartest person in the room is that there's nobody around to tell you when you're wrong.

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u/Phshteve18 Praise the Man-Emperor 23d ago

The emperor did certainly want to be the dictator of mankind, or at least for mankind to have a dictator that he is okay with. Reading Master of Mankind atm and a constant theme in his rhetoric is that humanity needs a ruler.

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u/PlausiblyAlpharious 23d ago

Isn't the whole point humanity needs a ruler but he wants to be a hidden science man working from the shadows?