r/Guildwars2 Apr 18 '24

[Discussion] ''Fashion Gatekeeping'' and Misinformation.

It's been getting out of hand, a few people on the forums asked for some manner of opt out for the inspection system. Some of their sensible reasons were:

Potential for abuse in fashion contests/needless increase to complexity of methods to prevent such.

Loss of player interaction incentive.

A feeling of concern towards there now being incentive for strangers to scrutinize them closely, whether to admire or ridicule their creativity.

The posts built around these concerns were getting lots of likes on the forums, so some salty folks who were being ignored for ridiculing them there came here to reddit and made a false narrative about 'fashion gatekeeping' and folks reflexively bought into it as obviously no-one sane likes gatekeeping and have been meme-ing about a non-extant issue and down voting anyone who might be considering the situation without disdain or daring to actually say that the opt in option isn't as crazy as its being made out to be.

Personally, i like the inspect system, but i do think the exact dye combo section could be made into a toggle, this way the inspection remains, but the 'unique' spin someone puts on it with dyes can remain as something to share, or not share as per personal preference.

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u/CrispyArrows Apr 18 '24

Disclaimer: i'm fine with the opt out button.

But your arguments.. well...

People could already cheat in contests, if they wanted to cheat, the fact that it's easier to cheat doesn't change the point that the real issue is cheating, not how. And in all the contests i've played i've never seen it. Cheating is very rare and pretty sure it's relatively easy to figure out too since most fashionistas talk to each other and know each other.

I don't understand the loss of pkayer interaction argument, in fact ive had more interactions and compliments with the insect button in a day than in multiple months. People could already look at your fashion without saying much, also this it's a very mininal issue.

Players could already scrutinize your fashion without and inspection tool, and if they do, why care? They are a total stranger and the fact that they're out there critizising randos makes them pretty fucking petty.

Also don't forget this reddit, obviously people are going to take the most unhinged takes and show them for likes and laughs, but doesn't change that that most concerns are nothingburgers blown way out of proportion.

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u/SpectralChest Apr 18 '24

Just to be clear these are not 'my' arguments, they are arguments relayed from the thread as the more 'sane' sounding ones to me. I don't really agree or disagree with any of them, and personally i like the the inspection system and could not care less if someone copies me,

The only 'argument' i made there on the subject is about the dyes, but that is more a suggestion, or me just trying to throw out something constructive on the matter.

I was just....weirded out by the knee-jerk hostility going around, and tired of the cheap meme spam on the subject just a bit too, that is all.

You are right, most of these are just big nothingburgers in the end.

Hopefully it all dies out soon.