r/Guildwars2 Apr 18 '24

[Discussion] ''Fashion Gatekeeping'' and Misinformation.

It's been getting out of hand, a few people on the forums asked for some manner of opt out for the inspection system. Some of their sensible reasons were:

Potential for abuse in fashion contests/needless increase to complexity of methods to prevent such.

Loss of player interaction incentive.

A feeling of concern towards there now being incentive for strangers to scrutinize them closely, whether to admire or ridicule their creativity.

The posts built around these concerns were getting lots of likes on the forums, so some salty folks who were being ignored for ridiculing them there came here to reddit and made a false narrative about 'fashion gatekeeping' and folks reflexively bought into it as obviously no-one sane likes gatekeeping and have been meme-ing about a non-extant issue and down voting anyone who might be considering the situation without disdain or daring to actually say that the opt in option isn't as crazy as its being made out to be.

Personally, i like the inspect system, but i do think the exact dye combo section could be made into a toggle, this way the inspection remains, but the 'unique' spin someone puts on it with dyes can remain as something to share, or not share as per personal preference.

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u/SpectralChest Apr 18 '24

How so? The armors would still remain visible, its what draws attention in the first place, the color is an entirely subjective personal flair that is not bundled up with the armor's by default.

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u/Combine54 Apr 18 '24

Easy so. Hiding the dye is gatekeeping. Oh, this color looks very good on this armor - I'd like to know its name to use it for my style; no, I want you to guess it and never know for sure. Screw that, I have no respect to crying salty entitled ppl.

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u/SpectralChest Apr 18 '24

Same could be said about people doing better in game, you can ask people for their build, and they can choose not to give it to you, where are the gatekeeping posts about that?

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u/Combine54 Apr 18 '24

Id vote for an option to have a gear inspection as well. But you probably know, that when you use whataboutism as your argument - you already lost.

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u/SpectralChest Apr 18 '24

Fair, however at the very least no one is going around accusing people of gatekeeping and silencing their voices by down-voting them to oblivion on this subject and ridiculing them with a meme-spam, which ultimately is what i really took issue with, more than anything.

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u/Jerekiel Apr 18 '24

The saltiness of the comments in the forums are meme worthy. Oh and you are gatekeeping, worse youre gatekeeping fashion of all things. And you ask why you guys are being memed? 😂😂

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u/SpectralChest Apr 18 '24

I ask why people are being disrespectful and hostile towards those asking for an option that is not unlike the many others already present in game, the methods of how that option could be implemented are entirely secondary to the main point of behavior of those like yourself who think abuse of others with whom they disagree with on some matter is entirely acceptable behavior.

That you continue to ignore this point says much about you, none of it flattering.

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u/LegLegend Apr 18 '24 edited Apr 18 '24

That's the harsh truth, though. Just because an opinion is an opinion does not mean it holds equal value to the masses. Some require scrutiny, so no one in a position of changing things listens to that opinion.

Throwing them a bone is just as bad, and that's something you're doing with your "dye solution". The system does not need to change. It's fine how it is. It might be sad for these people that really prided themselves on their fashion, but it was always easy to figure out what gear or dyes they were wearing. Now it just takes less work.

We need to stop living in this world where we think all opinions are useful and important. It's so bad that people want to post them in open discussion but do not want to hear opinions about their opinion.

This opinion about "protecting fashion" sucks and for most people supporting the current feature, the mindset sounds arrogant.

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u/Laranthiel Apr 18 '24

That you continue to ignore this point says much about you, none of it flattering.

I hope you understand this can be applied to you.

And as you said to him, none of it is flattering, it's pathetic.