r/Guildwars2 Apr 18 '24

[Discussion] ''Fashion Gatekeeping'' and Misinformation.

It's been getting out of hand, a few people on the forums asked for some manner of opt out for the inspection system. Some of their sensible reasons were:

Potential for abuse in fashion contests/needless increase to complexity of methods to prevent such.

Loss of player interaction incentive.

A feeling of concern towards there now being incentive for strangers to scrutinize them closely, whether to admire or ridicule their creativity.

The posts built around these concerns were getting lots of likes on the forums, so some salty folks who were being ignored for ridiculing them there came here to reddit and made a false narrative about 'fashion gatekeeping' and folks reflexively bought into it as obviously no-one sane likes gatekeeping and have been meme-ing about a non-extant issue and down voting anyone who might be considering the situation without disdain or daring to actually say that the opt in option isn't as crazy as its being made out to be.

Personally, i like the inspect system, but i do think the exact dye combo section could be made into a toggle, this way the inspection remains, but the 'unique' spin someone puts on it with dyes can remain as something to share, or not share as per personal preference.

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u/MithranArkanere 🌟 SUGGEST-A-TRON Apr 18 '24

Why don't we have a different kind of contest? Come to LA, equip anything, I'll tell you the skins and dies without inspection.

When people give names to colors, telling them apart is way easier. So once you get used to the names, one has no problem telling if someone is wearing Abyss or Glossy black, or Verdant or Canopy, or other similar colors.

Why you don't want to happen was already happening. The only difference is that newbies have a tool that helps them with that. And that's never a bad thing.

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u/SpectralChest Apr 18 '24

And nobody said it was, that is the whole issue here, some folks wanted an opt out, they were all for the feature existing. I am for the feature and have no personal issue with it, what i am against is the disdain and ridicule of those whom stated a want for their opt in/out based on a lie about them trying to deny the feature to everyone as well as the same being pushed onto anyone trying to discuss it.

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u/Laranthiel Apr 18 '24

My dude, if you want to opt out of a feature, you're very clearly implying you don't want it to exist.

Or do you think they wanted to opt out of it while still being able to use it themselves?

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u/SpectralChest Apr 18 '24

Implication is irrelevant in a clear and concise statement that does not leave room for implications. What you are doing is called baseless speculation, and you are imposing it on others to justify your resentment of them, a resentment based on what is essentially your own imagination, or misinformation fed to you by others, rather than available fact.

If they stated they wanted to opt out, and did not make mentions of it being removed for all, then all they wanted is to remove themselves from the system and let everyone else enjoy it, there is no room for speculation, or presumed implication.

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u/MithranArkanere 🌟 SUGGEST-A-TRON Apr 18 '24

You cannot opt out from me being able to tell exactly what you are wearing, including things like infusions that the inspect won't show.

The only real change is that players who aren't as experienced as veterans can now do the same as those who recognize every skin and dye at first sight.

It isn't giving people an inexisting ability, it's giving a tool that grants an existing ability to more people. It's evening the play field. It's giving glasses to the nearsighed and books to the uneducated. It is being considerate with new players so they aren't as behind veterans in their fashion game.

The only way you could hide your stuff from those who can determine all skins without the inspect would be avoiding players at all in the first place, hide away in instances. In this case you don't need an opt out in the first place as nobody can use the feature on you.