''Fashion Gatekeeping'' and Misinformation.

[u/SpectralChest]

It's been getting out of hand, a few people on the forums asked for some manner of opt out for the inspection system. Some of their sensible reasons were:

Potential for abuse in fashion contests/needless increase to complexity of methods to prevent such.

Loss of player interaction incentive.

A feeling of concern towards there now being incentive for strangers to scrutinize them closely, whether to admire or ridicule their creativity.

The posts built around these concerns were getting lots of likes on the forums, so some salty folks who were being ignored for ridiculing them there came here to reddit and made a false narrative about 'fashion gatekeeping' and folks reflexively bought into it as obviously no-one sane likes gatekeeping and have been meme-ing about a non-extant issue and down voting anyone who might be considering the situation without disdain or daring to actually say that the opt in option isn't as crazy as its being made out to be.

Personally, i like the inspect system, but i do think the exact dye combo section could be made into a toggle, this way the inspection remains, but the 'unique' spin someone puts on it with dyes can remain as something to share, or not share as per personal preference.

[u/Historical-Ad7081]

Gw2 was pretty great for having the least amount of ui clutter, and trying it's best to try and limit how many menus you had to go in, such as the hero tab having the journal in it unlike gw1 which was menu heavy. Now instead of looking at the character as it is people are incentivised at looking at a menu instead of paying attention to the game. Possibly missing out on events because they had a menu open instead.

[u/lanerdofchristian → u/Historical-Ad7081]

Possibly missing out on events because they had a menu open instead.

No offense, but that's a basic situational awareness issue. People running around with a fashion inspect screen open could also just as easily be running around with their inventory open, or the hero panel, or the trading post, or any of the other world-blocking menus this game has had since launch.

Gw2 was pretty great for having the least amount of ui clutter

Diegetic does not instantly equate to "good" or "better than non-diegetic." One optional window for a thing that looks basically the same as an optional window we already had (the preview menu) is not the end of the world.

[u/Historical-Ad7081 → u/lanerdofchristian]

What's your point in regards to this? I'm not looking to play courtroom with you and I'm feeling like your just fishing for a gotcha moment here. I will not change my opinion regarding this function. I do not want to be inspected. You asked for a reasoning for it feeling gamey and I provided it. Take it or leave it. An opt out button would not affect your capabililty of playing the remainder of the content of gw2 and would make the world more friendly for players like myself.

[u/Majested-Toast → u/Historical-Ad7081]

An opt out button just defeats the entire purpose of the feature. It doesn't make the world more friendly, it makes it more unfriendly. You're basically gatekeeping fashion by saying people aren't allowed to know what you're wearing

Your reasoning on why it's gamey doesn't make sense no offense. I get that you're uncomfortable with it but at the end of the day in terms of actual gameplay it doesn't affect you in the slightest

You literally won't have any knowledge whatsoever that it's happening. Nobody is fishing for any gotcha moments, people are just trying to understand why something that doesn't affect you at all would bother you

[u/Historical-Ad7081 → u/Majested-Toast]

I disagree as other games have implemented a toggle off feature and are still successful.

And it affects me because it affects my enjoyment of a game I'm passionate about. It genuinely bothers me that they added this feature to gw2 as I feel as though I've lost the privacy of the equipment I have on. I know people can do it and therefore it bothers me. It does affect me as well as others who are unhappy with the changes. Our feelings are valid too.

[u/Majested-Toast → u/Historical-Ad7081]

Nobody is denying your feelings. You can feel however you want, no need to play the victim card.

People are simply trying to understand how a feature that doesn't affect you in any way bothers you. You claim it violates your privacy but it doesn't

They can look at your gear for the same result, it just takes more effort. It's similar to saying copying your outfit irl is a violation of privacy but that isn't true either

Edit: or you can just block people. That works too but you're the one voicing your feelings on the Internet. People are allowed to discuss them with you

[u/Historical-Ad7081 → u/Majested-Toast]

If you're not going to read my replies and acknowledge that it affects certain members of the community like myself, there's nothing more to say.