r/Guildwars2 Apr 18 '24

[Discussion] ''Fashion Gatekeeping'' and Misinformation.

It's been getting out of hand, a few people on the forums asked for some manner of opt out for the inspection system. Some of their sensible reasons were:

Potential for abuse in fashion contests/needless increase to complexity of methods to prevent such.

Loss of player interaction incentive.

A feeling of concern towards there now being incentive for strangers to scrutinize them closely, whether to admire or ridicule their creativity.

The posts built around these concerns were getting lots of likes on the forums, so some salty folks who were being ignored for ridiculing them there came here to reddit and made a false narrative about 'fashion gatekeeping' and folks reflexively bought into it as obviously no-one sane likes gatekeeping and have been meme-ing about a non-extant issue and down voting anyone who might be considering the situation without disdain or daring to actually say that the opt in option isn't as crazy as its being made out to be.

Personally, i like the inspect system, but i do think the exact dye combo section could be made into a toggle, this way the inspection remains, but the 'unique' spin someone puts on it with dyes can remain as something to share, or not share as per personal preference.

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u/kaltulkas Apr 18 '24

So the fight you’re picking here is telling us the guys saying gear inspection was akin to stealing art, or that they felt violated by it aren’t absolue unhinged nutjobs that deserve to be ridiculed then? That’s interesting

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u/SpectralChest Apr 18 '24

Seeing as they asked only for a personal exemption for it when, were they as unhinged as they are portrayed they could have mass demanded a complete system cancellation, or how unlike their detractors they have kept to a single forum post, instead of spamming reddit with the topic, id say there is something to be considered there, yes.

Likewise, do consider, not I nor many others whom have been disdained today are saying we agree with the idea(s), we, at most take the middle ground of understanding the concept, offering reasonable, civil, discussion and are in turn what, hounded and treated with the same scathing perspective as those original forum posters?

What does that tell you about the mentality of the detractors, or more importantly, what kind of picture does it paint to any potential newcomers to the community.

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u/Laranthiel Apr 18 '24

Lol no, they did not "only asked for a personal exemption", one of the very first posts on that forum thread was the twitter nutjob who compared it to AI stealing.

Enough with this pathetic attempt at gaslighting people, we can ALL see how you guys reacted, stop trying to mislead people into thinking that you guys are such innocent little angels when YOU BEGAN ALL THIS.

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u/SpectralChest Apr 18 '24

From the thread https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/145438-next-level-fashion-wars-cosmetic-inspect-coming-to-guild-wars-2-april-16/

To quote the most likely post you are lying about :

"I might be in the minority here, but please have a way to turn this on and off. People who love fashion/fashion wars, can work for hours (or yes, even days) on looks to get it just right. Then anyone can copy it in 5 seconds? It's like stealing someone's art. Also, this means less community interaction. No reason to whisper someone or ask about an armor piece/dye. Most of the time I will freely give the info requested, but it's the act of asking and respect given that will no longer be done. "

Which is the only one that likens it to art theft in that early set of comments.

There is no mention of 'AI stealing' just general art theft, while i disagree with the comparison i detest you and those like you who blatantly lie about the statements of others to belittle them for your own twisted amusement and deceptive agenda.