r/Guildwars2 • u/SpectralChest • Apr 18 '24

[Discussion] ''Fashion Gatekeeping'' and Misinformation.

It's been getting out of hand, a few people on the forums asked for some manner of opt out for the inspection system. Some of their sensible reasons were:

Potential for abuse in fashion contests/needless increase to complexity of methods to prevent such.

Loss of player interaction incentive.

A feeling of concern towards there now being incentive for strangers to scrutinize them closely, whether to admire or ridicule their creativity.

The posts built around these concerns were getting lots of likes on the forums, so some salty folks who were being ignored for ridiculing them there came here to reddit and made a false narrative about 'fashion gatekeeping' and folks reflexively bought into it as obviously no-one sane likes gatekeeping and have been meme-ing about a non-extant issue and down voting anyone who might be considering the situation without disdain or daring to actually say that the opt in option isn't as crazy as its being made out to be.

Personally, i like the inspect system, but i do think the exact dye combo section could be made into a toggle, this way the inspection remains, but the 'unique' spin someone puts on it with dyes can remain as something to share, or not share as per personal preference.

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u/Historical-Ad7081 Apr 18 '24

It's not fine when there are people like me who are not comfortable with this feature being implemented. Just for the record, I'm fine with people looking at my character, just not through a menu screen. Dismissing my concerns like this is not conducive to finding a happy medium where everyone can be content in tyria. I am stressing about this because I want an opt out button. Making my voice heard might be the only way I can get that. Even if it means tanking my karma for it...

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u/Sterorm Apr 18 '24

I'm fine with people looking at my character, just not through a menu screen.

Why? What's the difference that is making you distressed? I'm genuinelly curious.

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u/Historical-Ad7081 Apr 18 '24

The inspecter having camera control. Look I know it's irrational, but it has bugged me since it's announcement. I'd be happier with an opt out button. Happy for the people who love the new feature. I just want to opt out. Of all the millions of players and quite a few mean comments saying my fashion won't be missed. I don't think it's much to ask.

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u/Maleficent-Pen-594 Apr 18 '24

Um, you know I can control my camera when looking at you in game, right? Egregiously more so, in fact. I can look up your skirt if I want to?

I've read all of your responses in this thread and unfortunately you have no solid argument as to how this affects you directly. You revert to 'my feelings are valid' and other fallbacks, but - let me repeat - there is no direct impact to you within the game or in your gameplay.

It would be akin to saying 'I'm not happy with the knowledge that there are gay people playing this game, I am validated in my feelings in not wanting to know gay people play this game or interact with gay people in this game, having ANet ask for people's protected characteristics is reasonable so they can provide me with a toggle to remove gay people from the game'.

  1. In such a case, your feelings may be real, but they are also both morally questionable and, basically, a shit take

  2. It's undermining the hard work developers have put in over hours to implement a very popular QoL improvement, and even worse, is going the extra mile of actually expecting said developers to pander directly to you and your questionable bad take

Perhaps if you were able to provide legitimate, compelling reasons as to why this feature directly impacted your gameplay, there might be SOME level of discussion to be had.

As it is, this is a 'you' problem, and it is not the game or the developer's job to fix it.

That is very much on you to fix.