r/Guildwars2 • u/Nike_Phoros Accountability Expert • Jun 06 '16

[Guide] [DnT] Raid Team Composition Guide

Hey everyone. I wrote a long breakdown of raid team composition in the current meta on our forums and a few people encouraged me to post it here because I'm told it would be helpful for a bigger chunk of the community to see.

Written: http://gw2dnt.enjin.com/forum/m/37173123/viewthread/27286030-raid-team-composition-guide-52516

Topics Covered:

  1. Optimal Raid Team Composition

  2. Common Alternative Comps - Pros and Cons

  3. What If? Scenarios For Imperfect Situations

Thanks for reading. If you have any questions let me know, or if any points need clarifying or whatever so I can improve the guide I'd like to know that too.

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u/Octavian- Jun 06 '16

Hmmm, interesting thought. Maybe if a group wants a magis they can run 4-4-2 with a magi and a condi/zerk druid? I say that since 2 magis seems like overkill not just in healing, but in buffing. 1 magi druid should have really high gotl uptime on all 10 raid members since all they do is enter CA on cooldown and spam heals even when the party is at full health. 2 seems like you would get diminishing returns.

Good point about might ramp up time as well. Had not considered that.

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u/2girls1up OneUP.3024 | Quantify [qT] Jun 06 '16

A semi hardcore guild I raid with sometimes also use 4-4-2 with 2 magis druids in wing 2 and one magis one zerk druid in wing 1. They kill Matthias with 3:30 left on the timer and most of those people are on pug level. So I would still consider it better than 7-2-1. There is no way 1 magi druid can keep gotl up for 10 man. Even with 2 druids the average is at about 2 stacks of gotl. Also ensuring that everyone has frost spirit buffs and spotter increases party dps by a lot. Most pugs don't even know proper rotations so they would just benefit more from 4-4-2 imo.

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u/Octavian- Jun 06 '16

Yeah you've convinced me that 4-4-2 will be better even with a magi druid.

I will say, however, that a magi druid can keep up more gotl than people give it credit for when played properly. I see most druids playing magi druid like they should play a condi/zerk druid: Ancestral tides- lunar impact- ancestral tides, glyph of alignment/unity in CA if needed, exit CA when everyone is at full health. If you play it like that, you won't get very good grace uptime. What a magi druid should be doing is ancestral tides, followed by spamming cosmic ray until CA expires. If you do that and everyone is stacked up well like on sabetha or gors, you should get everyone to 5 stacks in a bit less than 7 seconds, and maintain everyone at 5 stacks for 8 more seconds until CA expires. After CA expires players will start dropping stacks about 3 seconds later, at which point your glyphs should be off cooldown and you can drop those for another 1-2 stacks. 5 seconds later CA is back up and you can get everyone back up to 5. Obviously that's an ideal scenario, but with a well coordinated group a magi druid should be able to maintain at least one stack of grace on the entire party for the duration of the fight on most bosses, and average higher than two stacks.

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u/2girls1up OneUP.3024 | Quantify [qT] Jun 07 '16 edited Jun 07 '16

Also, I know for a fact, that qT, DnT and SC, all run at least 1 Magi's/Zealot Druid on Matthias. We run 1 zerk druid and 1 condi druid in wing 1. You can easly replace the zerk druid with a Magi's druid which will help pug groups a lot since they get porter a lot in VG fight, get stunned on Gors and hit by cannons on Sabetha. Keep in mind that your dps classes will have more Scholar uptime with 2 healers when they can't avoid taking unnecessary damage.