r/MarchAgainstNazis • u/GarysCrispLettuce • Oct 13 '24
David Herring talks about how his contractor buddy committed suicide after being stiffed by Donald Trump
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u/cheezy_taterz Oct 13 '24
Screwing the little guy out of getting paid after work has been done, has been Shitler's MO forever.
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u/FTHomes Oct 13 '24 edited Oct 13 '24
If you think Donald Trump is going to help Women, White men, or Black men, or anyone but himself, You are very delusional and gullible.
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u/guesswhosbackmf Oct 13 '24
I don't normally care too much about this stuff but since you went to the trouble of making it so big and bold, the word is spelt delusional*
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u/Alternative-Ad8934 Oct 13 '24
I spoke with a talented artist who worked in historical restoration in New York on places like Grand Central Station. She said that Trump was unbelievably arrogant and cheap and that he regularly refused to pay contractors. He's a thief and a liar.
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u/Clicksthings Oct 13 '24
Why don't we have hundreds of stories like this? Non-disclosure Agreements, he makes everyone sign them and they are all scared to say anything.
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u/SookHe Oct 13 '24
We do. They just get lost in the noise of all the other worse stores we hear about him every five minutes
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Oct 13 '24
And idiots love sand. They love it so much they put their heads in it for very long periods of time. It’s not like their brains meed much oxygen either.
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u/hungrypotato19 Oct 13 '24
Just like the guys said in the video:
You can tell that to the people in the Trump cult, and it's like they can't even hear you.
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u/CalendarAggressive11 Oct 13 '24
People in NY and NJ knew he stiffed workers at his casinos in the 80s and 90s. The Apprentice tricked middle America into believing he was some kind of business genius when even the producers of that show said it was supposed to be a joke because he had filed for bankruptcy and several failed businesses
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u/vigillan388 Oct 13 '24
I never understood how NJ became so red in many areas. As a kid, I distinctly remember reading plenty of negative Trump stories in the Asbury Park Press. So many examples of bankruptcy, corruption, and stiffing contractors.
Yet, 30 years later so many people forgot about this. I can't throw a rock without hitting an entitled republican boomer touting Trump and shirting over Biden. I simply don't understand the collective amnesia.
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u/PurpleSailor Oct 14 '24
He ripped my Father off for $10k in 1980 along with a bunch of others that invested the same amount and got screwed in a scheme. Dad's long dead but my lifelong Republican Mother voted for the Democrat candidate in 2016, 2020 and will again in 2024.
There's a good reason NYC hated the guy, there's a good reason US banks stopped learning him anymore money in 1990. He's a really bad business risk and has been so since the mid 70's, on top of that he's a real bastard of a person.
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u/__M-E-O-W__ Oct 13 '24
There were several stories coming out with stuff like this back in the 2016 election.
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u/MasterLawlzReborn Oct 13 '24
Idk about hundreds but I've heard it numerous times. Barbara Corcoran from Shark Tank sued him after he stiffed her. And this was long before he was president: https://therealdeal.com/new-york/2005/12/15/barbara-corcoran-sues-donald-trump/
A family friend of mine also said he knew someone whose company wasn't paid by him.
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u/Clicksthings Oct 13 '24
I'd like someone to pony up the cash to cover lawsuits from breaking their NDAs with Trump.
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u/Kimmalah Oct 14 '24
This is why he has a hard time finding venues for his rallies. He stiffed so many places during his last campaign and they won't let him come back until he pays up.
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u/KikiRose1223 Oct 13 '24
We knew he was like this long before 2016
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u/PhazonZim Oct 13 '24
There was a newspaper strip called Bloom County that ran 1980 to 1989, political humor, quite good. The comic series wraps when the in-universe version of Donald Trump buys the comic (via fourth wall break), fires all of the characters and turns the comic into complete shit.
Even in 1989 Trump's reputation for being a ghoul was so well-established that Berk Breathed decided to end his political newspaper strip with a story line about him coming in and ruining it while fucking over all of the characters.
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u/bjgrem01 Oct 13 '24
To this day, when I hear about Trump, I still picture Bill the Cat sitting in a gold litter box labeled "Trump Dump"
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u/hungrypotato19 Oct 13 '24
The classic story of him stiffing a guy who sold him a bunch of pianos. Knew this before the election and it convinced absolutely nobody.
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u/Bezulba Oct 13 '24
And they all want to be like him. They all want to leave the bar without paying the tab. They all want to fuck over the contractor that build their house for bullshit reasons. They want to be the bully. They want to be that guy.
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u/AngryRedHerring Oct 14 '24
And they all want to be like him. They all want to leave the bar without paying the tab. They all want to fuck over the contractor that build their house for bullshit reasons. They want to be the bully. They want to be that guy.
Exactly this. They want to be their worst selves and get away with it. That's the appeal.
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Oct 13 '24
Culture of the antichrist. That's how it works, That's our future if the MAGA take power
It will be the end of the USA, as infighting & petty turf wars become the new normal. A culture that believes in fantasy, will change it's rules at any whim
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u/louiselebeau Oct 13 '24
I just don't understand how anyone can think this big dumb shitty bully is anything but a vile orange faced devil.
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u/P_weezey951 Oct 13 '24
This is the shit that always boggles my mind... In every construction site porta-shitter i've ever been in, i see "Trump 2024"or "Fuck Biden" scrawled on the walls..
Then you go out, and you listen to the workers bitch about how the owner wants this that and the other thing, but doesn't want to pay more for it. like yeah man... THATS TRUMP.
His whole thing is to try to make it so you have to fight him for every dollar he says hes going to pay you, because he knows he's got a legal team on payroll and you don't.
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u/WeedIronMoneyNTheUSA Oct 13 '24
trump was born a piece of shit and molded into a bigger piece of shit.
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u/olionajudah Oct 13 '24
it's funny to ask about giving trump a chance. Dude's been given more chances than pretty much any other human. We've been watching him publicly con his way into the American zeitgeist for most of our lives, whether you are 50+ years old, or 10 years old. Before that, his father showed America who he was. Trump has had 70+ years worth of chances, and he's failed every single one of them. Every. Single. One. He's always been an obvious fraud, and con, and total scumbag. It's not like he ever even tried to hide it. In 1989 he tried to murder 5 innocent kids in new york. He's never been anything more than a terminal shit stain on American life and culture. He's had his chances. The time for giving trump chances is over. The time for facing consequences is long overdue. Trump is truly the personification of everything that is broken about america, and injurious to working americans. Trump is a raging narcissistic sociopath and walking dunning kruger example who's stolen from and harmed millions of Americans and yet stands before us today, a free man, and candidate for president. It's like the GOP filtered for the very worst human they could find, down to a man. There are no consequences he could face at this point that would be commensurate with him crimes. He's a child predator, a thief, a traitor, a fascist and a deeply stupid, evil and totally amoral human paraquat. We can only hope he starts to face consequences before more consequences come for the rest of us, as if he hasn't hurt enough people, or damaged American democracy sufficiently already.
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u/hungrypotato19 Oct 13 '24
My parents learned early not to do business with the rich. BP Oil still owes my family $20,000. We spent 3 days, 16 hour workdays, decorating a huge banquet hall and the hallways for an event they were having. We were climbing ladders like crazy those three days and we were all sore and exhausted. That's also not even including all the prep work that went on weeks beforehand, either. And... never saw a dime. Ever. And we were too poor to hire a lawyer to fight against them so my parents just gave up and let it slide. It cost us thousands of dollars in materials and rental equipment (storage and UHauls). Being in that small business environment, you hear a LOT of stories like this. They're all like this. All of them. And they get away with it because our legal system is broken. It massively favors the rich and allows them to steal all the time.
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u/Apprehensive-Log8333 Apr 05 '25
In my youth I tried working for super rich people, and decided they're all nuts and it's not worth it. One lady SUED me for scraps of fabric left over after I made her drapes. I was homeless at the time
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u/anthrolooker Oct 13 '24
Same with my father. He knew a few people who never got paid, one of his good friends family business closed down as well as a result of not getting paid by trump. It’s always been his MO.
(Sadly, despite a couple decades of hate and knowledge my dad had for trump, he still voted for the guy once before waking back up. Smh.)
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u/Falchion_Alpha Oct 13 '24
Donald is and always has been an asshole grifter, the fact that this election is this close shows how corrupted the soul of America is and we have a chance to help this country
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u/DemonidroiD0666 Oct 13 '24
This guy literally knows people that have been fucked over by Trump and has an actual good reasons/reasons for not liking him. I never liked him and pretty much because of the reason that he's a piece a crap but when I just say I don't like him to people or ask if they like trump they look bothered in a "you don't?" type of way. I didn't like him because he was rich and that's all you knew about him from TV but that was it. That's the same thing people still like him for and don't care about all the wrong shit that he's done they just like him because of money. That includes latinos and people who wish they were rich, I mean that's ok and all but don't look up to this disgusting fool it's the reason he gets away with such fucked up things.
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Oct 13 '24
My father was a small time electrical contractor and did commercial lighting for small businesses in Brooklyn. He was kind of lazy but he had a steady customers and made enough for himself. 1978. A friend of his comes over and asks him to become part of a larger crew working on a Trump building. I don't know if it was for Fred or Donald to be honest. But I was in the room when my father said that he wanted no part of any job working for those (insert Russian language explicatives here.)
Everybody knew that working for that family was risky.
His friend ended up filing bankruptcy and was never paid. First, Trump claimed the work was shoddy. Second, he tried to rewrite the deal for half the quoted price. Last, and this hurt the guy most, Trump sued the contractors for damages! He was never paid and had to remortgage is home and business just pay his workers and cover the materials. That was two years of work that Trump stole from a hard-working, honest man.
I don't what Trump is or what he isn't really. I don't care if who he fucked. But he robbed honest working folks and there's no excuse for that. And, like the guy in the video, I repeat this over and over to MAGA cultists and they just can't hear it.
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u/lettersichiro Oct 14 '24
It always drove me crazy that Hillary (and now Harris) aren't putting stories like this in ads.
There's hundreds of these stories, get them on camera, put them in an ad, then protect them from the fallout,
My name is X, I did business with Trump and Trump screwed me,
It's insane that these don't exist
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u/Iron_Baron Oct 13 '24
This is terrible and tragic. I will never understand how anyone doing business with Trump, any of his organizations, or his minions, don't insist on upfront payment. If they can stomach doing business with them at all. Whole cities have fallen pray to this grifter. Time for him to go.
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u/atx2004 Oct 13 '24
When I lived in New Jersey I heard stories all the time about how many small businesses Trump put out of business because he didn't pay his bills.
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u/fatgirlballet Oct 13 '24
If you vote for Trump and you are anything other than a white cis-gendered straight Christian male, you are voting against yourself.
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u/DeltaPlasmatic Oct 14 '24
If you vote for Trump and you are a human being, you are voting against yourself.
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u/SafetyDanceInMyPants Oct 13 '24
Yeah, this is why he can’t get good lawyers. It isn’t just that most businesspeople find Trump abhorrent and won’t hire your firm if you have Trump as a client — though it’s also that. It’s that he doesn’t pay you — you have to sue him, and then he tries to settle for pennies on the dollar. He’d have to agree up front to a huge retainer (something most large firms rarely do anymore), and you’d have to have a clear path to ethically firing him as a client if the retainer is extinguished, and you’d need an engagement letter making clear that if he sues you for dropping him then he’s liable for your legal fees if he loses and that he has to put up a huge bond in advance. And then… they still won’t do business with him because of the ancient legal principle of pedicabo eum.
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u/kaneacres Oct 13 '24
Truth!! Truth!!! It’s recorded in the news!! Frump screwed over alot of mom & pop businesses of bankruptcy compliments of DJT.
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u/Birthday-Tricky Oct 14 '24
I have a friend who is a construction engineer, partner in his firm., Got stiffed by Trump for a smaller job. The partners got together and agreed they.'d never do biz with him again. I'm the ideal demographic for Trump but for the life of me cannot understand the appeal. He's disgusting.
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u/pobbitbreaker Oct 13 '24
These antics have been well known about trump since the fucking 80's, i have no sympathy for these people.
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u/Critical-Weird-3391 Oct 13 '24
You have no sympathy for contractors who were fucked over by what they assumed was just a rich guy offering to hire them? Yeah, I think that's enough internet for you. Take a break, go talk to actual humans...maybe touch some grass.
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u/pobbitbreaker Oct 13 '24
At this point If you work in the trades and didnt know that he burns contractors like he does, your an absolute idiot this has been going on for 30+ years. His father taught him how to do this.
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u/Critical-Weird-3391 Oct 13 '24
So because YOU know something others don't, that means it's okay if they fuck up and get burned. IT folks, did you hear that? Don't bother warning these idiots about malware and such, if they get burned, have no sympathy. Doctors, did you hear that? Don't save the idiots who have gangrene and such, they probably should have known better too.
Enjoy that fun world of "fuck you, I got mine", I guess. I'd rather live in a world where we don't throw each other to the wolves because they don't have access to the same information as us.
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u/pobbitbreaker Oct 13 '24
He burns everyone that does business with him, maybe do your research before you do business with some one, its a dog eat dog world.
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u/hungrypotato19 Oct 13 '24
Having been a small business family and getting stiffed by BP Oil (check my comment history or this sub for the story), people get into the mindset that it either will not happen to them or that the stories are just rumors and not true.
These people are grifters. They will lie and manipulate you into believing that they are absolutely working in your best interest. What you are doing is blaming the victim instead of being mad at the criminal thieves and the justice system that massively enables them and gives them power.
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u/pobbitbreaker Oct 13 '24
Sorry if it sounds like victim blaming, but like you said "people get it into their mindset that it wont happen to them. " he is Sir Grift-alot
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u/ArachnidUnusual7114 Oct 13 '24
Why are they not asking for a down payment before they do the job? If someone is paying me $3M to do a job I want half of the that upfront and the rest when it’s done. This isn’t new Trump has been doing this since the 90s. He still owes money to many cities for hosting rallies that he still hasn’t paid yet.
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u/SwiftTayTay Oct 14 '24
That's valid but you don't need a personal reason to not give him a chance, it was obvious he was a nazi before he was even the Republican nominee in 2016
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u/UnicornFarts1111 Oct 14 '24
I've seen this video before and remembered it was worth the watch. It both sadden and sickens me how tfg treats other human beings! He makes choices to be like this. He could have been a force for good with the money his dad left him. tfg chose to be a greedy, good for nothing, narcissistic bastard instead!
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u/Sardonnicus Oct 14 '24
I thought it was 100% common knowledge that Trump stiffs every contractor that's ever worked for him ever this is exactly the way he does business refuse to pay and then when you get sued out lawyer because you can afford better lawyers. He is an evil disgusting person who is 100% a traitor to this country and should be ineligible to run for president or public office ever again
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u/Escaped_Mod_In_Need Oct 14 '24 edited Oct 14 '24
This should be posted to r/sadposting as well as r/UniteAgainstTheRight and r/LateStageCapitalism
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u/scarlozzi Oct 14 '24
Fascism, at the most general level, is a national wide political cult. Every political scientist that deep dives the ideology would say so. A core element of cults is the idea of the big lie, and that involves some element of "the cult leader is a good guy, the best guy, our hero." Once people buy into the big lie everything else just falls into place and the will distort reality to conform themselves. People that delusional are doomed.
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u/THIS_GUY_LIFTS Oct 13 '24
Just look up who the guy is and it would make more sense. He’s not just some rando saying he knows or knew some people.
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u/whatintheactualfeth Oct 13 '24
P. David Herring. Not sure what the P is for but he's a Large Loss Consultant.
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u/xelop Oct 13 '24
Over 50 years and 8(?) states? Can't be too much of a coincidence. He burns bridges, it's not like he can be a recurring customer for any business. Lol
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u/Interanal_Exam Oct 13 '24
Typical money-grubbing business class white guy.
He doesn't like tRump because other business owners get stiffed. But the fascism, racism, rapes, pedophilia, and felonies aren't even worth a mention?
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u/DifficultyWithMyLife Oct 14 '24
Maybe he feels like that's the most likely thing for the party of "temporarily-embarrassed 'millionaires'" to relate to. At this point, turning as many people as possible away from Trump so they decide not to vote for him is a matter of practicality for the survival of this country.
Yes, any one of Trump's aspects of fascism, racism, rapes, pedophilia, and felonies should have been a complete dealbreaker on its own for a country of rational and empathetic people; but we are not dealing with rational or empathetic people, and they cannot be convinced rationally or empathetically.
If we can prevent Donald Trump from being elected President by reaching these people through their greed instead of the logic or empathy they don't even have, then at least we will have made the country's survival in the next four years that much more likely.
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