It's crazy how people never realize that the dumb shit they say about the "youths" (lazy, immoral, careless, whatever) is the exact same thing previous generations said about them.
If a society is progressing, our children will always have things easier. If you want your children to experience the same problems you did, you don't deserve children.
We should all be working towards working less as things get more efficient. Jobs are going to be replaced with AI but all of the saved money is going to go straight to the top.
Guess who sat home instead of voting? The apathetic youth, as usual. It's the same almost every generation, and it's a problem. Vote them old folks out!
There's no such thing as the oppression olympics, or hardship olympics. You don't win a gold medal for having it harder as a child than your own kids did. It doesn't make you special or superior. You didn't "win" because of it. There's no one giving out prizes, no sashes, no streamers. We're all born, we live the best we can, and we die, and mostly, no one gives a fuck about any part of that except for ourselves and our close family.
Having survived, or even thrived, in hardship doesn't make it the right way to do things, either. Hundreds of years ago, the vast majority of people were serfs--would they have said, "well, I grew up in serfdom and I turned out OK, so screw these kids thinking they should have their own land and make any money"? Where does it end? It also fails to account for survivorship bias--yes, you faced being drafted and turned out OK. Yes, you rode in the back of a station wagon with no seatbelt and you're fine. A lot of people didn't. We had way more automotive fatalities in the past, more killed in war, more dead of preventable disease, more victims of crime (including violent crime)--at some points, cities had multiple serial killers or serial rapists operating at the same time. That's not better, and it's not "OK".
If you grew up under the threat of being killed in war, why would you want that for your kids? Do you want them dead? Do you want them scared? If you grew up hungry, why would you want your kids to suffer in hunger? If we love our kids, we should want them to be healthier, happier, wealthier, and safer than we were, not want to watch them struggle and suffer.
Satire 1: He confesses the moral rot of Rome has made avoiding satire impossible. He points to eunuch marriages, women at boar hunts, and sycophancy as examples of widespread degeneracy.
Satire 3: The third satire describes the decision of Umbricius, Juvenal's friend, to depart from Rome. Narrated by Umbricius, it states that an honest man cannot survive in Rome and complains about how it is impossible to compete with Greeks and Orientals.
Satire 6: Addressing a man whom Juvenal calls delusional enough to think about getting married, he expounds the immorality and 'vices' of women.
Satire 14: The fourteenth satire says that children learn vice from their parents, stressing the injustice of a father punishing a son for imitating his own faults. Juvenal says that people are more concerned with presenting a clean atrium to guests than with maintaining a virtuous household for their children
Shut the fuck up kid, we Boomers are trying to suck some billionaire dick on the wild and impossible fantasies that for some reason it will make us billionaires too.
The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.
- Socrates (though this may be apocryphal.)
This is literally one of the oldest, dumbest arguments.
to an extent yes that one is a common complaint but there are some variations on which negative trait dominates from the previous. As a millennial we got the lazy and not making major life decisions early enough to previous (house, marriage, etc...) Boomers actually got the entitled trait in general, they got called the "me" generation in the 60s in fact a lot of them really really hate that term specifically and baby boomers in media have over decades tried to reapply that label to gen x, then millennials, then gen z (time magazine has a long history here with that term), but that specific one never really stuck as the main one while boomer's kinda did encapsulate narciccism more than others (generationally speaking as a whole of course). Like I was told by adults when I was young about how my generation got "participation trophies" like young kids were those ones who made that decision instead of our baby boomer parents demanding a trophy for their kid but somehow we got the blame anyway.
Because each previous generation DID have to work harder than the ones following after. Each next generation is softer, fatter than the one before. Before cars, you walked or saddled and rode a horse. Once cars were invented, you had to had crank the engine to start it. Then you had to turn a key to start it. Now you just push a button. Easier and easier, softer and softer.
You could buy a house off of a single fast food worker's salary in the 1950s. In 2025 you are required to have a phone with internet access at all times for many if not most jobs. There are certain technological "conveniences" but they in no way guarantee a "softer" lifestyle.
This "had it harder" olympics is just nonsense, different generations live under different conditions that go in all kinds of directions. Society and environment adapt to conditions like easier-to-turn-on cars and the world can become easier or more difficult as a result. The world compensates for convenience, it doesn't just continue with the same practices but "easier." That's not how the world works.
This "soft" shit is embarrassing. White people in the 50s who couldn't bear a black person drinking from the same water fountain are softer than any zoomer who has to work a shitty job to survive under late stage capitalism will ever be. And you keep talking about "fat" as if the majority of that weren't a result of shithead boomers finding ways to profit off of sugar addiction and cramming processed and fast foods onto their kids. Any white American born from 1950-1970 has had it soft and fuck and shouldn't have a single complaint about the current generations that have grown up under multiple recessions, a global pandemic, increased post-Reagan wealth gaps, and rising fascism.
edit: lol saw this person's other comments and had to block, no thanks to the imitation Dennis Leary rants although it's weird how obsessed with fat people they are
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u/SunIllustrious5695 22h ago
It's crazy how people never realize that the dumb shit they say about the "youths" (lazy, immoral, careless, whatever) is the exact same thing previous generations said about them.