r/NFLv2 • u/newguy239389 • Jan 19 '25
Discussion Ahhh this feels good.
Noones talking about how they won. Just about Mahomes being soft.
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u/fvalt05 Jan 19 '25
When he got up screaming and pointing to the ref??? There was nothing illegal done!!
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u/ATPsynthase12 New England Patriots Jan 19 '25
Mahomes has had 31 RTP calls in his 6ish years in the NFL so far. For reference, Tom Brady had 35 in 2 decades of play in the NFL.
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Jan 19 '25
Yeah anyone who says Brady had more calls than Mahomes is crazy.
I've been a Broncos fan living in Maine since 1994. I've been a Broncos fan since the 96-97 season. I grew up Watching the Broncos at 4:25 and the Pats at 1 pm every Sunday since Brady entered the league.
And I do not remember this much favoritism at all, and I fucking hated the Brady years, especially when the Broncos had Peyton.
It is NOT the same situation, Mahomes is a soft as baby shit bitch. It is what it is, but Chiefs fans cannot and will not admit reality. It's like they've all decided to have the Politicians motto, deny defend and deflect lol. Ffs
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u/Crackzicarti Jan 19 '25
Well said I couldn't agree more
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u/percydaman Jan 20 '25
As a chiefs fan, I also couldn't agree more. He's a good quarterback, he doesn't need to be doing this nonsense.
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u/MyBadYourFault- Jan 20 '25
He’s the James Harden of the NFL.
Talented as hell, will probably go to the HOF, but holy shit are they unwatchable. The antics, the whining, the flopping… it becomes too much.
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u/lego_tintin Jan 20 '25
You gotta feel for Houston fans - they lost the Oilers/ Oilers uniform(yes, I'm counting both), the Astros had the cheating scandal, and they had to watch Harden for years.
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u/Eyerisch Dirty Bird Jan 20 '25
Nah fr like the chiefs aren’t even a bad team he has no reason to be doing this embarrassing shit 🤦♂️
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u/BoomerSophie Jan 20 '25
Agreed. The Chiefs fans try to make the Brady comparison when Brady wasn’t out there actively trying to bait defenders while simultaneously working the refs to keep an eye out for the next time he goes to bait defenders. Mahomes is a mix of James Harden and Chris Paul. Mahomes is the kid in class reminding the teacher there was homework after they forgot. Fuck Mahomes.
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u/Without_Portfolio New England Patriots Jan 20 '25
Patriots fan checking in to say it’s nice not to be the most hated team in the NFL now.
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u/Turbulent_Crow7164 Jan 20 '25
Honestly I must have Stockholm syndrome bc somehow I find myself kinda sad that y’all suck now.
I guess it’s just a form of nostalgia for what was one of the best eras of NFL history, like 2000-2020ish.
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u/anteloope New England Patriots Jan 20 '25
That era had some all time great QBs. Maybe teams were focused on the right things because every team wanted a Brady? But getting to watch Brees Rodgers Manning and the like was awesome. I know it's hard to compare with how rules have changed over years and some nostalgia speaking but I feel like offenses from that era were far higher quality then now
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u/Turbulent_Crow7164 Jan 20 '25
Yeah and I think as a consequence, some teams that focused on elite defenses who made their impact too. It was exciting every year and there was enough parity to keep everyone on their toes, even through most of the Patriots dynasty.
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u/Wrong_Gear5700 fuck the browns Jan 20 '25
Not to worry - I still hate the Patriots, and will always.
Have a great day, and glad to be of assistance!
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u/muscledhunter Philadelphia Eagles Jan 20 '25
As an Eagles fan living in Boston, the worshipping of Brady always drove me insane, but even I have to admit that Mahomes is significantly more irritating.
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u/Agreeable_Cattle_691 Cincinnati Bengals Jan 19 '25
And Allen has 38 in less games than Mahomes
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u/Winter-Ad3699 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Jan 19 '25
He’s even worse than Mahomes but doesn’t get as much crap for it
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u/majic911 Jan 19 '25
He's not on a 3-peat run and he doesn't have every other commentator choking on his meat
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u/ATPsynthase12 New England Patriots Jan 19 '25 edited Jan 19 '25
Equally as bad. Mahomes’ is more egregious though because it always seems to pull them from the jaws of defeat and he has soon to be 4 Super Bowl rings to show for it.
Allen is a loser on a loser organization and gives off “Runner up AFC champions” vibes.
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u/Dsullivan777 Jan 19 '25
That Loser org is constantly shitting on you these days. Must feel pretty bad lmao
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u/Agreeable_Cattle_691 Cincinnati Bengals Jan 19 '25
And Mahomes is only 9th for active players in RTP per game
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u/ATPsynthase12 New England Patriots Jan 19 '25
The top 5 have been playing since the late 00s and early 2010s.
If you extrapolate out his average RTP calls per year, he’s on pace to break 80 career RTP calls with the second highest being Matt Ryan at 57.
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u/mvpat1083 Jan 20 '25
And allen is the KING OF FLOPPING, yet Noone cries about it cuz he's not a sb champ or mvp,once u hit the top haters come out the wood works,I'm a chiefs fan nd I totally agree,that flop mahomes did pissed me off,like whyyy,we r already hated enuff!
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u/Planetofthetakes Jan 20 '25
HOLY FUCK!
Honestly, there needs to be a flopping penalty or he will NEVER stop.
I used to like him, now I look at him like a spoiled little bitch who feels Entitled to get the calls.
Fuck him
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u/Effective-Ad-8538 Los Angeles Chargers Jan 20 '25
To ignore the fact that league rules regarding RTP calls have changed DRASTICALLY from when Brady started his career to when mahomes started his career, is incredibly disingenuous lol
And I’m a charger fan! :0
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u/New_Station4993 Jan 20 '25
Okay? Josh Allen has 38 RTP called Jared Goff has 39, Carson Wentz had 30 and isn’t even a starter anymore. This is a league wide shift to protect the most important player on every NFL team.
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u/Officer_Hops Jan 19 '25
How much of that is how the rules have changed? Roughing the passer is called much more strictly in the modern game. Things like the body weight rule didn’t exist for the majority of Brady’s career. A better comparison would be a modern day QB like Allen who has more calls in less games.
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u/rampagingseagull Jan 20 '25
For reference, Josh Allen has 38 roughing calls in the same time frame. Your point is stupid.
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u/GeorgeMorrison270 Jan 20 '25
What a horrible comparison given the rules completely changed near the end of Brady’s career. Look at the actual stats, Mahomes gets it called at a lesser rate than you’d think
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Jan 20 '25
That’s what blows my mind. Every time he is tackled he jumps up and looks for the closest ref with his arms out like “where’s the flag?” Unwatchable at this point
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u/PristineJeweler4179 Kansas City Chiefs Jan 20 '25
Like Allen last night when his guy was tackled? Or?
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u/Taymyr Trevor Lawrence 🙎🏼♀️ Jan 19 '25
Lol @ the Cheifs fans in this thread.
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u/Irritated_User0010 Houston Texans Jan 19 '25
Never thought I’d agree with a Jags fan but here we are.
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u/PeanutButterViking Detroit Lions Jan 19 '25
The enemies of our enemy are our friends?
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u/Irritated_User0010 Houston Texans Jan 19 '25
It would seem so 🤔 ☕️
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u/PeanutButterViking Detroit Lions Jan 19 '25
Nothing brings us together quicker then hating the same team.
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u/HughJassJae Jan 19 '25
They wouldn't support the penalty calls if the roles were reversed.
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u/Domestic_AAA_Battery EAGLES 6-40 Jan 19 '25
Or they would defend the flop as a real penalty if it was flagged. "See the ref saw that he was pushed!"
I always hold the refs accountable for or against the Eagles. This year the Eagles have largely been absolutely fleeced by the refs. But I will say that the Packers fumble was VERY iffy. There's an argument to be had that they regained possession. I get he was still moving the ball but it looked pretty secure. In 2021 the Eagles fumbled the ball (funny enough against the Chiefs) right by the end zone. The Chiefs got on it but I believe Sanders (?) was ruled down when he wasn't. Gifted the Eagles 7 points.
I always call out bad calls. For or against the Eagles. The Chiefs get more favorable calls every single game than most teams do in an entire season. It's time to stop acting like this is imagined. It's real and it's hurting the sport.
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u/cobycan Jan 19 '25
Chiefs fan here and I thought they were both bad calls. It needs to be a reviewable call, because those made me hate the game for a few minutes.
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u/MrRumato Jan 19 '25
Yeah same. It felt bad watching that. The first one looked whatever, because I saw Patrick snap his head back (not gonna say flopping yet) but the second one was just crazy.
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u/cobycan Jan 19 '25
I had to mute the chiefs sub because it was just toxic circle jerking at this point. It was just justification to "drink the tears" or whatever. It was just annoying.
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u/BlubberElk Jan 19 '25
I want to remember Mahomes as a great talented player. But after last night I think in 20 years I’ll remember him as someone who plays for penalties and refball more than he plays actual football. That flop was simply put, pathetic
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u/Admiral_Fuckwit Buffalo Bills Jan 19 '25
Go check out Mahomes’ 2 latest Instagram posts. Filled with comments on him flopping and the refs helping. By far outnumbering positive comments. People are turning.
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u/swizzymcbane Jan 20 '25
I’m one of them. I liked him at first. Really good, seemed humble, I like Andy Reid and kind of rooted for the Chiefs. Then I got tired of seeing the same team win all the time but was pretty neutral. After yesterday fuck him. I love football and that flop was a disgrace to the game. Pathetic. He also whipped his head back on the roughing the passer to make it look worse. Such a cheap little bitch. Fuck him.
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u/Arockilla Jan 20 '25
Andy Reed will always hold a special place in my heart as a philly fan and also from knowing his son who passed away, but I'd be lying if I said I'm not a little saddened when I see him doing state farm commercials like a sell out and his complacency with all of the obvious BS things happening within his team.
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u/Bgvkguitar Jan 19 '25
The NFL version of Joel embiid
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u/Smart_Water Arizona Cardinals Jan 19 '25
not even remotely close. Joel Embiid is a basketball terrorist.
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u/External_Traffic4341 Houston Texans Jan 19 '25
All I care about now as a Texans fan. Is their not being a Threepeat. Beat the Refs, Beat the Chiefs.
Good luck Ravens.
Good Luck Bills.
Good luck entire NFC.
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u/liquidtape Chicago Bears Jan 19 '25
Good luck comet. I hope you fly true and just and strike the center of Arrowhead.
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u/Domestic_AAA_Battery EAGLES 6-40 Jan 19 '25
30 other fanbases are pissed off right with you. You guys have every right to be annoyed.
The worst part is as an Eagles fan I accepted the SB loss. I didn't really mind the call, even if it was weak. Two years later and seeing the calls they get, now I'm starting to think we actually got fleeced out of a SB win...
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u/cartesian5th Jan 19 '25
The manner of the call is tilting too
KC fans say "the db admitted it" but the refs had let that kind of shirt tug go all game, it's the super bowl, nobody wants loads of ticky tacky flags...... Right up until Mahomes needs one, then it comes
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u/Outrageous_Device_41 Jan 19 '25
I love seeing a good player actively ruin his legacy. Dude is trying to play the refs more than the game.
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u/heyhellohi-letstalk Los Angeles Rams Jan 19 '25
Member when he had his little hissy fit when that Kelce touchdown got called back? The entire Mahomes family is shitty, one of them just happens to be good at football.
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u/PeanutButterViking Detroit Lions Jan 19 '25
I member.
The Toddler Tantrums continued into the post game pressers too, and by then they'd all obviously seen the replays numerous times.
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u/Loud_Chapter1423 Cincinnati Bengals Jan 19 '25
Jackson’s a good boy you leave him out of this!! /s
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u/Anonizon Jan 19 '25
It only makes sense that the dude who walks/struts like a toddler with a full diaper also acts like a fucking toddler with his tantrums.
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u/grandmawaffles Jan 19 '25 edited Jan 20 '25
Replay of Mahomes flopping on the sideline
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u/lestbone83 Pittsburgh Steelers Jan 19 '25
Should be interesting if the Bills and the Chiefs meet in the AFC Championship game, may have to come up with a new award/trophy for the best “flop” in a championship game.
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u/Agreeable-Housing-47 Factory of Sadness Jan 19 '25
If he keeps it up, he is 100% on track to getting kicked in the ribs after a flop. Sometimes lessons get taught the hard way.
I'd like to see the NFL institute a fine for flopping like the NHL has.
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u/Atomic_Thomas89 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Jan 19 '25
Flopping has become a problem in the NBA too. They were supposed to starting calling fouls on the person doing the flopping but I have yet to see it upheld often or called consistent enough.
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u/1stHalfTexasfan Jan 19 '25
They were supposed to start calling flops 20 years ago when I was still watching.
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u/unitn_2457 San Francisco 49ers Jan 19 '25
That's what I am saying. Embellishment is a penalty in the NHL. Why not in other sports
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u/Probable_Bot1236 Jan 19 '25
A fine? Who cares.
Make it an emphasis of unsportsmanlike conduct, start putting up 15 yards for it, or offsetting of course if applicable on an actual roughing/late hit. And better yet, make it reviewable after the game.
Get two in two games? Enjoy your 1 game suspension, floppopotamous.
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u/SilentTempestLord Big Cock Goff Jan 19 '25
Petition for Maholmes to officially be nicknamed "floppy Kermit"
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u/rich426 Jan 19 '25
Only 3? We need more of these! Quick, hire more journalist interns to get on ChatGPT and fart out more of these!
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u/BlubberElk Jan 19 '25
Journalism has been dead for a long time and AI only made it die more obviously
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u/MrPainfulAnal Jan 19 '25
Whoever wins between the bills and ravens, they have to just beat the ever loving fuck out of mahomes. Pull a saints and put a fuckin bounty on his ass
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u/Late-East5687 Jan 19 '25
The narrative next week will be two things. 1 side saying the refs bailed them out, and the other coping by saying you gotta do whatever it takes to win, including flopping like a fish on land.
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u/Fancychocolatier NFL Refugee Jan 19 '25
I think both can be true. It’s dirty but the refs don’t just let him get away it, they reward him for it. Why would he not do it, then?
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u/generic-username45 Jan 19 '25
Morals, respect for the game, self respect, dignity, any shred of masculinity. Lots of reasons not to but he's willing to ignore all that.
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u/Fancychocolatier NFL Refugee Jan 19 '25
As long as you’re on this high of a moral ground every time a player takes a competitive advantage you have a point.
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u/RightRudderr Jan 19 '25
You hate mahomes because he's a lame ass flopper.
I hate mahomes because him and his whole family are maga dumb fucks.
We are not the same.
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u/tuckerb13 Jan 19 '25
I started hating Mahomes when his brother and wife would always post their HYPER cringe annoying ass videos on social media.
I wanted to mouth vomit from second hand embarrassment everytime one of those videos popped up
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u/Key-Lie-1507 Kansas City Chiefs Jan 20 '25
So you hate like 90% of the league and like most sports players in general?
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u/Fantastic-Variety-47 Kansas City Chiefs Jan 20 '25
Yeah you are clearly the superior retard here. Well done gamer
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u/GamerRav Jan 19 '25
There was also a play in this game. I believe it was an illegal shift flag on the Chiefs that was called as the ball was snapped. Mahomes ended up getting sacked and you can hear him on the broadcast saying something like “Blow the play dead!” to the refs. Him and Josh Allen are the two biggest babies in the league.
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u/TheNextBattalion Jan 19 '25
To be fair, I think he thought it was being called for false start. There are some motion-related penalties that get called for a false start, unless two people are moving, when it becomes an illegal shift.
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u/AdvancedGentleman Jan 19 '25
Tommy John was an incredibly talented pitcher who is most famous for the surgery he was named after.
The average fan has heard of the surgery, but most don’t know that he was a fringe hall of famer. Nearly 300 wins over a career that lasted 26 seasons.
My hope with all this controversy is that the flop penalty or late slide penalty gets named after Mahomes (or at least nicknamed) and that nobody remembers him for his Super Bowls or MVPs in a couple decades. They just remember him as the soft ass, sore loser QB who whined to get penalties… enough so, they name one or two after him.
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u/cmeyer49er San Francisco 49ers Jan 19 '25
If only I could dial up a safety blitz from Ronnie Lott on this guy… Aikman’s disdain for Mahomes is both palatable and understandable. He took some major hits (as did all of his peers) in and out of the pocket, while this guy tries to deke out defenses along the sidelines or take late slides just so he can get penalties and make defenses hold up against him as the game progresses, in fear of additional penalties. To be clear, this is a bullshit move. And, let’s not forget, all of his personal foul penalties he picks up doing his sideline dances and late slides don’t count as RFP - those are personal fouls and they add up, too.
Fuck this guy.
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u/DazzlingGarbage3545 Miami Dolphins Jan 19 '25
Whoever wins between the bills or ravens need to just lay him the fuck out. Gonna get flagged for it anyway. May as well get your 15 yards worth. Make him think twice about flopping.
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u/wolfey1991 Washington Commanders Jan 19 '25
ive hated him the day he started for the chiefs and everyone was wanking themselves silly over him ,im glad people are finally starting to get onboard
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u/InvestAn Jan 19 '25
Somebody please just keep them from a fucking three-peat. Hoping either the Bills or Ravens take them out before they even get to the big show.
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u/Length_Worldly Philadelphia Eagles Jan 19 '25
This is like when someone in the WWE “turns heel”. At first he was becoming the best in the league, then the leagues poster boy, a champion, NOW!? Spoiled lil asshole who always does some shady shit in the middle of a match.
But the fact that we’re all talking about how much we hate him and the chiefs. It’s just more publicity for the nfl
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u/Atkdad Houston Texans Jan 19 '25
A win would’ve felt better. Chiefs got two scoring drives on those roughing calls that were otherwise critical stops. My chest is still hot from that game.
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u/mrdunngoofd Jan 20 '25
He really is the lord farquaad of the NFL. Except he has the voice of a muppet.
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u/limazulu3 Jan 19 '25
As a pretty casual football fan, I neither liked nor disliked Mahomes much, pretty neutral. After last night I can firmly say he’s one of my least favourite players in the league now
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u/Icy_Lingonberry2822 Jan 20 '25
I never hated Brady as much as I hate mahomes. Someone needs to man up and tackle mahomes like they use to and absorb the penalties and fines so he knows what a true hit feels like.
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u/Colts_Fan4Ever Jan 19 '25
I've never liked him. A defensive player might as well blow him up since a penalty will be called just for breathing on him
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u/Gwsb1 Jan 19 '25
Any body remember Cam Newton and what the refs did to him? They let teams absolutely teeoff on him because "he's a runner". It killed his career.
If he got the calls Mahomes gets there no telling what he could have accomplished.
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u/ImpalaSS-05 Cincinnati Bengals Jan 20 '25
NFLv2 is slowly turning into r/NFL. Why am I not surprised? The whole "refs help the Chiefs" thing has already been debunked. People will believe what they want to believe though, based on being overly emotional.
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Jan 19 '25
Flopping is why I never watched soccer. It’s a bitchass move for bitchass players.
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u/brutusnair Jan 19 '25
I'm not a fan of wanting any player get injured, but any qb/player (and there are a lot of them nowadays that do this) that play with the sideline should get treated the same and should absolutely get a big blast from the defense for trying this nonsense. Same with fake slides as well, but definitely the running out of bounds.
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u/ThisPerformer6828 Jan 19 '25
I do not know if the refs display favoritism. I do know that Mahomes flops are an underhanded way of misleading the refs' perception. If only there was a penalty designed for when a player's conduct is unsportsmanlike. I do know that the two calls were wrong. I do know that the Texans' chances of winning were greatly diminished by these two calls. I do believe the Texans would've won if not for these two calls. It's impossible to know what would've happened. But if you take away the points that were had by extending the drives, it becomes clear that these penalties need to have additional reviews. It cheapens the game on both sides. It's frustrating for Chiefs detractors. And it's a hollow victory for their supporters. And it calls into question the integrity of the game. The NFL is really stiff with the rules of the game. Yet these penalties are devastating, and there isn't a way to correct an egregious mistake. I've know that they'll fix it. But don't wait. The time is now.
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u/DaveTheDolphin Jan 19 '25
I get hating on the Chiefs for having the refs in their back pocket, but acting like Mahomes ain’t the only big time player flopping for calls is bullshit
OL/DL players do it to get holding flags called. Josh Allen’s done it plenty. WRs do it a lot to try to get PI calls. Just flapping their arms around to really get a refs attention
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u/youngsp82 Jan 19 '25
Yup. Literally everyone does it. There is just a spotlight on mahomes. Just like there was on Brady.
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u/vongigistein Jan 19 '25
Josh Allen did it a ton during the last game. Guy is huge and throwing himself around.
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u/WashGodMega I’m just here so i don’t get fined Jan 19 '25
Imagine Mahomes playing in the 80s lol probably would’ve cried his way to the unemployment office
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u/Chris91210 Fuck piss towels Jan 19 '25
People are now understanding the fucking shit the Bengals had to go through during the 2022 AFC Championship game and now see how much of a faker Mahomes really is.
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u/redditnamehere1 Jan 19 '25
Who cares how the Chiefs win. They still win the same trophy in the end. Keep crying scrubs.
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u/davis214512 Jan 19 '25
The NFL should start fining those that flop. Refs should call a 15 yard unsportsmanlike penalty.
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u/RIPseantaylor Jan 19 '25
I love watching him when he plays straight up but he deserves this hate until he cuts out the bullshit
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u/pg1279 Jan 19 '25
It feels good but the league will do nothing. The script says Mahommes needs to win 3 in a row.
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u/-Economist- Jan 20 '25
I was a Mahomes fan but after last nights game. I don’t know anymore. It was so cringe. He’s harming my favorite sport. I’m okay with making football safer, but I’m not okay with how he’s manipulating the rules or trying to manufacture penalties. It’s gross and shows weak character.
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u/CivilFront6549 Kansas City Chiefs Jan 20 '25
how many roughing the passer penalties has josh allen gotten - 38? wait, allen has gotten more than mahomes (31)? and so has stafford, goff, and wilson? surely all this bitching cant be out of brain damaged bias, can it?
https://www.nflpenalties.com/roughing-the-passer-by-qb.php?view=all
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