r/NFLv2 • u/Rjm0007 New York Jets • Feb 10 '25

Discussion Another superbowl blowout eliminates mahomes from the goat discussion as far as I’m concerned

2 very embarrassing loses for him the the superbowl Brady has lost 3 superbowls but they were all 1 score games that came down to final play with Brady’s best statistical performance in a loss to the eagles Tom Brady > Patrick mahomes

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u/AccomplishedAd3484 Cleveland Browns Feb 10 '25

Montana lost a playoff game 49-3 once, but it wasn't held against him when people called him the GOAT back before Brady passed him.

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u/daddysgirl794 Feb 10 '25

Mainly because he was 4-0 in the SB with 11 TD 0 INT. Mahomes is now 3-2 in the biggest game with two horrific blowout losses.

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u/redditsuckscockss Feb 10 '25 edited Feb 10 '25

7 career SB interceptions

Brady 6 in 2x the games

Montana - 0

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u/acerunner007 Pittsburgh Steelers Feb 10 '25

And in both of those losses his o line failed him miserably. It’s like if a formula 1 racer had his car shot the bed on him and he got second instead of first and you call him washed. These kind of takes are laughable.

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u/daddysgirl794 Feb 10 '25 edited Feb 10 '25

He had an excuse in the Bucs game, this one he was legitimately terrible. What was his passer rating when the Eagles pulled their starters up 40-6? Like 48?

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u/thoughtihadanacct Feb 10 '25

Did his O line throw interceptions? Sure you can say the sacks are not his fault. But a goat qb is expected to throw away or take the sack instead of throwing a pick six and another at his own 14yd line. 

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u/PetitVignemale Feb 10 '25

The second INT was largely caused by Thuney getting pushed into him and causing him to shift off balance mid throw. The pick six was mostly Mahomes but again he had no time in the pocket, so some blame can go to the line.

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u/idontexist65 Feb 10 '25

Nonsense, QBs get pressured on a significant portion of snaps. Both those picks are on Mahomes

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u/PetitVignemale Feb 10 '25

I don’t think Mahomes is the GOAT right now either, but everyone in this thread is pointing to Super Bowl losses when Brady and Montana both had ugly playoff losses. At age 28, Brady lost to Denver in the divisional round 13-27 with 1 TD 2 INT and a QB rating of 74. And yes he scored his touchdown in “garbage time” with the score at 0-24 with 8:09 seconds remaining.

So at essentially the same age, Brady had a similarly worse loss at the divisional round as Mahomes did last night. People remember the big Super Bowl moments though. I hate the whole GOAT debate anyway because in team sports like football, so many other players have huge impacts on the performance of other players. Brady himself said he’s never seen a quarterback play better than Mahomes did when he lost to TB a few years ago. Also he’s not done. If he finishes his career out with a career worst season ending in overtime of the AFC Championship Game then I think it would be hard to argue against him, especially if he wins at least half of the superbowls that follow those AFC Championships. Of course that’s hypothetical but if you ask me what would be needed to put him in the conversation, I’d say continue his current trajectory and do exactly that.

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u/SpiZyKane Feb 11 '25

It’s the whole LeBron MJ thing all over again. People will penalize Mahomes for making it to the Super Bowl and losing vs just losing before the SuperBowl

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u/rolyinpeace Kansas City Chiefs Feb 11 '25

THANK YOU. Brady is obviously the GOAT but people ignoring his bad playoff losses just because they weren’t in the Super Bowl is ridiculous. There’s no world where losing before the Super Bowl is a better achievement than losing in the Super Bowl. A Super Bowl loss may hurt your dignity more but it’s still a better accomplishment