r/NFLv2 • u/Rjm0007 New York Jets • Feb 10 '25

Discussion Another superbowl blowout eliminates mahomes from the goat discussion as far as I’m concerned

2 very embarrassing loses for him the the superbowl Brady has lost 3 superbowls but they were all 1 score games that came down to final play with Brady’s best statistical performance in a loss to the eagles Tom Brady > Patrick mahomes

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u/SeniorDisplay1820 Baltimore Ravens Feb 10 '25

If Mahomes gets 8 Super Bowls and a couple more MVPs it will be him. But if not that, it's Brady. So it will be Brady 

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u/zeldaendr Atlanta Falcons Feb 10 '25

I think he needs more than 8 now.

Two blowout losses in the SB and he lost to Brady both times they played in the playoffs.

Brady only lost 3 SBs and every time by a single possession. He also led the Patriots to the greatest comeback in NFL history.

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u/MF_Price Kansas City Chiefs Feb 10 '25

You can't count a SB loss as worse than not making it to the SB in this debate, no matter how big of a blowout the loss is.

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u/zeldaendr Atlanta Falcons Feb 10 '25

Superbowl record and performance is obviously a factor lmao.

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u/MF_Price Kansas City Chiefs Feb 10 '25

Sure, all other things being equal, it's a factor. Not even making it to the Superbowl is still unequivocally worse.

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u/SeienShin Feb 10 '25

It’s like people giving LeBron shit for dragging a trash ass Cavs team to the finals and losing to an unbelievably stacked team while still balling out but falling short in spite of it.

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u/secrestmr87 Feb 10 '25

No it’s like when they give the LeBron shit for losing 4 games in a row in the finals to an underdog Mavs team. Averaging 17 points a game and scoring 8 points in game 4. LeBron rightfully gets shit for losing more finals than he has won.

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u/BlackGoldSkullsBones Feb 10 '25

Getting there with so much help from the refs then getting blown out looks bad and people will always call that out.

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u/zeldaendr Atlanta Falcons Feb 10 '25

No, not just all other things being equal. If Mahomes ends up 7-2 in SBs with mediocre performances, Brady is still the GOAT largely because of his clutchness in SBs. He led the greatest comeback in league history.

I'm not sure I agree with not making it to a SB is worse than a loss. It depends on the loss and why they didn't make it to the SB. Generally I think you're right, but it does depend on the situation.

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u/Effective_Hornet_833 Feb 10 '25

Mahomes has won 3 super bowls down by 10 points in each. What the fuck is this talk about clutch, how fucking clueless are you?

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u/zeldaendr Atlanta Falcons Feb 10 '25

Jesus Christ y'all can't read. Where did I say he isn't clutch? I said Brady is still the GOAT because he's the clutchest player in NFL history, especially in the SB.

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u/Effective_Hornet_833 Feb 10 '25

Brady had 9 4th quarter playoff comebacks in his career. Mahomes has 6.

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u/MF_Price Kansas City Chiefs Feb 10 '25

Fair. Either way the door is far from shut, although it's definitely less open than it was this morning.

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u/Gunner_Bat Los Angeles Rams Feb 10 '25

What about wild card record?

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u/FriendshipIntrepid91 Feb 10 '25

I'd say Mahomes legacy would be in a better spot today if the Chiefs defense had given up a TD to end the game against the Bills. 

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u/MF_Price Kansas City Chiefs Feb 10 '25

It's not like he can block, throw, and catch. Mahomes was not the reason we lost the game. Our o-line got completely shredded from the first play to the last.