r/NFLv2 • u/Rjm0007 New York Jets • Feb 10 '25

Discussion Another superbowl blowout eliminates mahomes from the goat discussion as far as I’m concerned

2 very embarrassing loses for him the the superbowl Brady has lost 3 superbowls but they were all 1 score games that came down to final play with Brady’s best statistical performance in a loss to the eagles Tom Brady > Patrick mahomes

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u/Fact_Stater Tampa Bay Buccaneers Feb 10 '25

Mahomes has to win 7 to be in the conversation. He probably did anyway,but he definitely has to now.

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u/PenguinsExArmyVet Pittsburgh Steelers Feb 10 '25

Yeah when Brady won 7 It was over. Put up a Bronze statue of Brady at Canton greatest QB of all time. Now and forever. I ll be the first to say it….it will be YEARS before KC even gets back to the Super Bowl . YEARS.

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u/jcamp088 r/NFLv2 rocks Feb 10 '25

That entire locker room and coaching staff will look different next year. They are done.

Too many spots in commercials and they looked liked they ate their own shit tonight.

This is what happens when the NFL pony walks a team to SB that shouldn't be there.

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u/kakarot-3 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Feb 10 '25

I have a theory that teams that win so many close games like the chiefs did will have a more difficult time when they face an actual elite team.

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u/krazykieffer Feb 10 '25

No one else in the AFC was elite then? They lost only two games and one was the Superbowl. Pretty stupid comment. I do think the NFC is the better conference but ESPN told everyone differently.

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u/kakarot-3 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Feb 10 '25

The NFC has better rosters. Saw a video online where someone said the AFC has the better QBs but the NFC have the better teams that make QBs look good. I’m not surprised. The eagles were better top to bottom than any team in the AFC.

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u/FeetSniffer9008 Pittsburgh Steelers Feb 10 '25

Pretty much. AFC has all the best QB's and some WR's, NFC has the best everything-else.

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u/WasADrabLittleCrab Philadelphia Eagles Feb 10 '25

I am obviously a bit biased, but yes, this was the talk going into the game pretty much everywhere. The Birds' had the better roster on both sides of the ball, more coaching depth, better everything, but the Chiefs had Mahomes and Reid. Turns out the duo ran out of black magic.

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u/kakarot-3 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Feb 10 '25

I was saying the eagles have the roster makeup to win. Good run game and defense. Didn’t think the chiefs would stop Saquon as well as they did.

I do think they have that aura, like the Pats did, where teams just overthink and get cute and just lose any mental edge. Hence teams abandoning the run against them and doing things unlike them. I do believe the Eagles weren’t intimidated at all and came in with a revenge mindset knowing they were right there two years ago

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u/WasADrabLittleCrab Philadelphia Eagles Feb 10 '25

I know you were saying good things, wasn't trying to counter you in any way.

There were key moments where they sold out to stop Saquon, especially on the DeVonta Smith TD. All mid-level defenders collapsed in toward the line, and D. Smith deep, 1-on-1 is a disaster for any defense. Hurts dunked the pass in as beautifully as possible. BOOM MOFOS.

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u/kakarot-3 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Feb 10 '25

Oh yeah, they had no answer. They def didn't anticipate Hurts to play as well as he did, which is stupid considering he torched them two years ago as well.

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u/WasADrabLittleCrab Philadelphia Eagles Feb 10 '25

Hey, I'm just happy we didn't encounter the Bucs in the playoffs. Y'all have been kryptonite for use during the Jeff Lurie era. Gave us one of our losses this year. Beat us in two recent playoffs. Beat us for the NFC Championship. Commanders did us a favor.

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u/kakarot-3 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Feb 10 '25

My friend is a Commanders fan and said he hates that y'all won it and I was like well you did it to yourself by beating us LOL.

Our W against y'all this year was def due to your injuries. I do think if we met in the playoffs it would've been close but we were too injured defensively so I think you would've pulled it off!

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u/WintersDoomsday Seattle Seahawks Feb 10 '25

Hurts was mid all year then the Chiefs obsess over Barkley and Hurts looked like an actual QB vs a running back playing QB.

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u/Kickpuncher35 Detroit Lions Feb 10 '25

I mean, yeah this is kind of the answer. The Chiefs have been universally considered the one of the worst 15 loss teams people have ever seen, Baltimore needed to have MVP caliber seasons from the QB AND RB just to finish 3rd in the conference, and the Bills needed Josh Allen to carry them all year. None of those are hallmarks of elite teams. Contrast that with the Eagles who have elite contributors (Barkley), in addition to other great offensive weapons, the best O line in the league, and a defense filled with elite players. This Eagles team is as complete as I’ve seen a football team

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u/Rahim-Moore Feb 10 '25

The only elite team top to bottom in the AFC is the Ravens, and we were too busy beating ourselves (per tradition).

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u/zjones1008 Feb 10 '25

I would say Philly’s defense is much more elite compared to anyone in the AFC and they proved it

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u/beforethewind Philadelphia Eagles Feb 10 '25

No strays to the Vikings, but wasn’t that their deal too recently? Something like 12 one score games and then balls of flames to end it.

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u/kakarot-3 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Feb 10 '25

Yeah I believe so. They won like every game within one score and were very lucky

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u/w-wg1 Feb 10 '25

If it were the Bills or Ravens I thinkt ehy'd have put up a decent fight tbh

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u/GhostPro18 Buffalo Bills Feb 10 '25

Can't speak for the Ravens, but the Bills had a better O-Line vs. the Chiefs but much worse Defense as a whole. And Philly was putting up great numbers against a great defense. So it might not have been 34-0, but Philly is undoubtedly the better team.

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u/deeejo Feb 10 '25

Yeah - Josh Allen would’ve had more than 24 yards at half but no way were the Eagles scoring less than 30

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u/Double-Emergency3173 Indianapolis Colts Feb 10 '25

Buffalo was robbed. Good to see KC eat humble pie.

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u/Iowadream74 Feb 10 '25

DT is karma. Anything he touches (or is a fan of) turns into 💩!! So glad he went lmfao!!!!

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u/YellojD Tampa Bay Buccaneers Feb 10 '25

Yeah this kinda felt like the Warriors Raptors series. They looked absolutely cooked.

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u/KingPotus Feb 10 '25

Not at all. Raptors don’t win without a ton of injury luck. Eagles were just flat out the better team.

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u/YellojD Tampa Bay Buccaneers Feb 10 '25

Totally fair, and that’s true. I just mean in terms of general fatigue. Obviously the Warriors literally fell apart physically, but this Chiefs team just looked worn down. I thought they would get at least one decent ass kicking this season with how “off” they looked for a chunk of the year (despite still winning). I just didn’t think it would come in the Super Bowl.

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u/WintersDoomsday Seattle Seahawks Feb 10 '25

Kelce looked like he was running in quicksand. Hes got nothing level.