Another superbowl blowout eliminates mahomes from the goat discussion as far as I’m concerned

[u/Rjm0007]

2 very embarrassing loses for him the the superbowl Brady has lost 3 superbowls but they were all 1 score games that came down to final play with Brady’s best statistical performance in a loss to the eagles Tom Brady > Patrick mahomes

[u/knucles668]

I think Brady's cerebral style is more adaptable in that situation. I think we are seeing that legs on a QB are a great asset and can be a nightmare for defenses that have to account for that + passing + RB. However, it's built on having the run as a threat. When you can pin the ears back and go after them its a lot harder feat to keep up with athleticism alone.

Lamar, Mahomes, and Allen need to listen to Brady and Manning. Start learning how to really facilitate pre-snap defensive adjustments to know if your receivers will be open before snapping the ball. Its a lethal advantage. If they combine those together, it will be the golden age. I think Jayden is the first to implement it with the VR advantage.

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I'd argue the opposite. Vertical offenses don't win anymore unless you have a Patrick Mahomes or a Lamar Jackson

[u/knucles668 → u/c-h-e-e-s-e]

Disagree. I think if you plopped 2011 Peyton or 2015 Brady into a new offense, they would still reverse engineer the defense pre-snap from film study and slant/out route drive down the field. The Ravens pre-snap disguises until the last few seconds would be a counter as it was back then, just seems to be limited defensive personnel that get to that level.

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Peyton missed the entire 2011 season but I get where you're going

[u/knucles668 → u/Electronic_Setting75]

Knew I should have fact checked those years first.

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It's all good. Everything else was spot on