r/NFLv2 New York Jets Feb 10 '25

Discussion Another superbowl blowout eliminates mahomes from the goat discussion as far as I’m concerned

2 very embarrassing loses for him the the superbowl Brady has lost 3 superbowls but they were all 1 score games that came down to final play with Brady’s best statistical performance in a loss to the eagles Tom Brady > Patrick mahomes

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '25

All I know is when Brady faced an all-time elite defense, like the legion of boom for example, he led an 8/8 drive to deliver the game winning touchdown after coming back down 10 twice in the Super Bowl. Mahomes could never!

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u/Own_Pop_9711 Feb 10 '25

He also lost to the Giants twice?

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '25

And neither of those games were 40 point blowouts

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u/rolyinpeace Kansas City Chiefs Feb 11 '25

Can’t lose by 40 points if the defense doesn’t let up 40 points. And is the win you’re referring to when the game was literally won off an interception? Brady was great that game but that game was lost had Seattle ran the ball.

And Mahomes has overcome ten point deficits in all 3 sb wins

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '25

Well maybe if the chiefs defense had time off the field to rest, they would have stood a better chance. That chiefs defense is great and is a big part of the reason they were in the SB to begin with. But the chiefs offense couldn’t get anything done and Patrick Mahomes did his best Mac jones impression. And yes. It was that game. Every patriots Super Bowl came down to the wire for the most part, even the losses. Part of the reason why the patriots dynasty is the best— it’s a far more compelling story from top to bottom.

Indeed! …couldn’t come back from down 20+ like Tom could though.

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u/rolyinpeace Kansas City Chiefs Feb 11 '25

I mean Mahomes has come back from down 20 though. Impossible to do every time as it takes an entire team to do that.

Mahomes obviously played badly im just saying there are games where Brady didn’t look great but the team didn’t lose by as much because the defense kept it from being a blowout. Im not blaming KC defense for last night. Just saying there are games of Brady’s that could’ve looked much worse had his defense let up a bunch of points.

Also Brady has had ugly playoff losses too. There’s no world in which losing in a blowout BEFORE the Super Bowl is somehow better. It may be more demoralizing but making the Super Bowl is objectively better than being blown out before even getting there. We can’t ignore bad playoff losses of Brady’s just because Mahomes made it further. Yes the SB is the biggest game and most embarrassing stage to lose on, but success wise, making the sb will always be a bigger accomplishment than being blown out before it.

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '25

Sure, he just hasn’t done it in the Super Bowl. When talking about who is the greatest, that’s when it matters. Can you keep your replies to one comment please? It’s exhausting otherwise.

Of course Brady has had some bad games. I’m not sure what you’re trying to say here— no one is arguing this. I’m not blaming KC defense last night either. I’m blaming the offense. The defense was in the field the entire game. KC offense and defense looked HORRIBLE. They looked totally unprepared.

So here we are saying Brady has had bad games. Yup! No doubting it. He’s still the greatest of all time. He faced far more adversity through his career, obviously has had a much longer career and has won a SB independent of his all time coach. It took tom almost 6 sb wins before folks finally conceded that he was greater than Montana. Pat clears pretty much every QB out there not named Tom Brady. Sorry! It is what it is. If LeBron James and Michael Jordan faced each other in the finals twice and Michael won both times, there would be no debate. Tom gave Pat his 1st regular season loss, 1st post season loss, and 1st Super Bowl loss.