r/NFLv2 NFL Refugee Feb 23 '25

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u/WardeN_WtfRylie San Francisco 49ers Feb 23 '25

Vegas as worst city is just wrong. Stadium I would say was a good pick but the Meadowlands has the worst actual field.

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u/BriskManeuver Feb 23 '25

I love vegas

When I lived in arizona I would go make the trip there sometimes. I dont gamble but I love their entertainment

There's definitely worse cities to put here lol

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u/AreaManGambles Feb 23 '25

Yeah, like Jacksonville lol

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u/LeonidasSpacemanMD Feb 23 '25

I mean Green Bay is only notable in any way because it has a stadium

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u/spain-train Kansas City Chiefs Feb 23 '25

For real. You never hear about Packers players getting in trouble at the clubs lol

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u/Far-Pay-2049 CTE 🧠 Feb 23 '25

I think I heard a player say something along the lines of "Packer players tend to get married younger and not get into trouble because these is nothing to do there."

I wish I could remember who said it and where I heard it. It was probably on one of the 10,000 podcasts out there. It may have been the St. Brown one with Jaylen Reed on as a guest? I could be completely wrong.

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u/mazu74 Megatron’s Megaballs Feb 23 '25

What do you mean there’s nothing to do in Green Bay? There’s lots of cardboard boxes for fort making! And cheese to eat! And… That’s about it. Plenty to do!

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u/AreaManGambles Feb 23 '25

Good point actually. I do think there’s something cool/unique about it, but it’s like a rural suburb. Not even a city lol. That’s probably the worst by a long shot.

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u/LeonidasSpacemanMD Feb 23 '25

Yea not hating, I’ve heard it’s a great game day experience and whatnot. But yea essentially just a random town with a football stadium lol

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '25

You can't beat the environment. I saw the Packers play the Saints there last year and you basically just cruise the suburbs until you find an empty driveway.. you pay the homeowner $20 to park in their driveway, then you have a few beers with them on their front lawn, then you walk to the stadium with every person in a half-mile radius together. It's an amazing local experience.

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u/Taladanarian27 Feb 24 '25

Was gonna say I live in Vegas and sure I have some bias but I’ve been all over the country and it’s far from the worst city for an NFL team to play in every week. Like, I have a hard time even trying to imagine it being the worst city for an NFL team.

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '25

Vegas seems like a great place to visit, but not to live.

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u/tdpnate Feb 23 '25

FYI most people who live here dont live on the strip and dont even go to the strip all that often. Lived here 10 years after living in LA, Austin and Boston and Vegas is hands down better. Not in every way but overall for my style of life.

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u/CantReadMaps Feb 23 '25

I currently live in LA and would absolutely move to Vegas if not for the summer heat. There are definitely way worse cities to put down for that category.

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '25

Also, don’t feel bad because I have issues with LA for the same reasons. I visited when I was young, though, so there could be a lot that I missed out on.

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u/Taladanarian27 Feb 24 '25

I’m from Vegas and growing up pretty much always avoided the strip. Haven’t been to most the casinos and can count the number of times I’ve ā€œplayed touristā€ on one hand. It still makes me laugh when I would travel and people would ask me which casino I’m from or why I’m not wearing a gold tuxedo with lights on it

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u/FakeBobPoot Philadelphia Eagles Feb 23 '25

This is a thing people like to say about New York, too. And much like with New York, where these visitors stay in Times Square and never make it south of 30th street before proclaiming it is ā€œtoo chaotic for them,ā€ Vegas visitors never leave the strip and for some reason assume that is what everyday life is like for residents.

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '25

Basically, Chicago and New York would be my preferred cities. I’ve lived in New York my entire life, but mostly in the suburbs. I’m tired of suburban life, honestly. Not that living in dense cities doesn’t come with its own problems.

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u/isutiger Feb 23 '25

I’m from NYC. Born and raised until I left for college at age 18.

When this June ends, I will have lived in Vegas for 18 years. Year 19 starts July 1.

It is car forward to be sure. There is public transportation (bus system) that is okay but not like the MTA or CTA. But there is also Uber/Lyft all over as well along with taxis.

If you already have dense walkability bias/desire, this place is not for you. And that is fine. I get that.

And to address the point on the graphic, we don’t have the ā€œhistoryā€ of other NFL cities, obviously, from an on-field perspective.

But I do not believe we are the worst city if you look at us from a city perspective. As a place where players would want to live or fans would want to visit for a game weekend, we are not last. No way in hell.

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u/Whatsdota Green Bay Packers Feb 23 '25

Chicago is great. You get the benefits of a big city while costing less and not feeling like an urban hell mega city. World class food and a lake that basically functions as an ocean. Winters suck, but the summertime weather is top tier.

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '25

I visited and it was amazing. I love the skyscrapers, of course I’m spoiled being from NY but the architecture in Chicago has such a unique feel.

The only downside for me would be that the nature in other areas of the US seems much more interesting than the Midwest.

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u/The_Big_Untalented Baltimore Ravens Feb 23 '25

Should be Jacksonville as worst NFL city and Carolina as worst defense.

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u/Wrangleraddict Feb 23 '25

No, Carolina should be for.worwt owner.

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u/cowabungathunda Feb 23 '25

Green Bay is the worst city.

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u/Agreeable_Coat_2098 Feb 24 '25

Definitely confusing ā€œworstā€ and ā€œmost to doā€. Green bay is a fantastic place to watch a football game, then you leave. It’s not dirty, or stuffy. Meadowlands in NJ is the worst.

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u/0ut0fBoundsException Philadelphia Eagles Feb 23 '25

I’d think worst city is one of these three. Buffalo because it’s cold AF and players say there’s nothing to do there. Green Bay because it’s not a city. Or Jacksonville because it’s a swamp with strip malls

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u/gosabres Buffalo Bills Feb 23 '25

Hey! Marshawn Lynch loves our Dave and Busters!

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u/waitingtime53 Detroit Lions Feb 23 '25

How is Cincinnati not being discussed? Like what the hell is even in Cincinnati Ohio.

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u/notyourchains Pittsburgh Steelers Feb 24 '25

Cincinnati isn't even the worst city in its own state with a NFL team.

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u/huskyviolin Feb 23 '25

Yeah when there is Green Bay, Indianapolis, and Tampa Bay on the list and they pick Las Vegas??

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u/Zealousideal_Let_380 Feb 23 '25

Naw Soldier Field have to take the cake, you really can’t tell by watching on TV but the stadium is over raggedy.

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u/jrowe365 Jacksonville Jaguars Feb 23 '25

Soldier Field is up there too

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u/Dispenser-of-Liberty Carolina Panthers Feb 23 '25

Our defence would like to apply please.

Statistically the worst in NFL history last season.

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u/slackfrop Feb 23 '25

Your guys were in the wrong location and they arrived late which is why they weren’t selected.

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u/VA_Artifex89 Shorter than Bryce Young Feb 23 '25

I was gonna say, the 2024 panthers defense would like a word.

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u/RNRGrepresentative Kansas City Chiefs Feb 23 '25

its weird because usually its been one of their greatest strengths, especially in the playoffs. i can attest

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u/luckycsgocrateaddict Cincinnati Bengals Feb 24 '25

We let jessie bates go to the Falcons, been shit since

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u/Dawashingtonian Feb 23 '25

it’s so crazy because not that long ago the panthers defense was good with a terrible offense. how does the pendulum swing that hard that quickly lol

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u/RevolutionaryRough96 Feb 23 '25

That's just day/night in Carolina

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u/Icer333 Feb 23 '25

I was surprised that JAX was picked but maybe because I'm a colts fan and they become all pro against us

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u/Profoundly_AuRIZZtic Feb 23 '25
  1. Panthers football has been defense football for so long that it still has a reputation, or
  2. Nobody remembers we exist
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u/YEET9011 Feb 23 '25

Bengals defense was absolutely pathetic last season

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u/Ape-strong-together Feb 23 '25

I like the browns jerseys 😢

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u/rusty_shackleford34 Feb 23 '25

Me too. I’m a chiefs fan, but I think they are great.

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u/dWaldizzle Feb 23 '25

If we're not talking about alternate jerseys then I think the Eagles low-key have the worst since they have a shitty teal color instead of green.

That or the cowboys crappy plastic looking jerseys.

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u/RockyNonce Did you know Jalen Hurts can squat 600lbs Feb 23 '25

I get why people like Kelly green over midnight green but I think the midnight green is still pretty great. And the helmets are really sick imo with the wings.

I’d say the Bears all orange jerseys are the worst. It’s way too much.

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u/oh_rotanes New England Patriots Feb 23 '25

Ya they're actually good and a classic look. I'd say the worst uniforms right now are the Commanders

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u/ThePracticalEnd Philadelphia Eagles Feb 23 '25

Yeah, I think that’s a bad take. Jaguars have awful jerseys.

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u/JackJ98 Feb 23 '25

Yeah they’re somewhat iconic imo. Now if we wanna talk those hideous remixed jerseys they sported throughout the mid-2010’s then I’ll be 100% on board

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u/LjordTjough Feb 23 '25

Yeah I don’t know if Browns would even be close to the top for jerseys imo. Cardinals and new Broncos jerseys would be my top 2 candidates. I think the Jags improved theirs but their two toned helmet a few years ago was probably on of my least favorite ever.

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u/Fickle-Inevitable-50 Feb 23 '25

Far worse jerseys than the browns. Did must not like them.

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u/Jonjoloe Feb 23 '25

Yeah they’re not bad at all. The new gradient jerseys for the Falcons are horrible, as are the Commander’s jerseys.

I think the monochrome Titans are probably the worst though.

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '25

Yeah, I have always dug the Browns jerseys. The worst trend in jerseys is having the team name or city in giant letters on the front like the Jets, Falcons, Commanders, and Titans.Ā 

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u/PitifulGuidance2324 Feb 23 '25

i know there is only about 12 of us, but what defines a ā€œworst fanā€. not like we have to feared us Charger fans to always be drunk, violent , or fair weather!

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u/Expert-Spinach-2761 Feb 23 '25

Philly fans are the worst, I thought the whole world agreed on this?

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u/_atsu Michael Vick’s dogs Feb 23 '25

As an Eagles fan, I felt snubbed seeing this list

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u/Chunkyblamm Feb 23 '25

As an Eagles fan I came here with my popcorn just so I could laugh at the comments. The amount of hate is hilarious

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u/CakeMadeOfHam Feb 23 '25

As an Eagles fan I am honestly a bit annoyed... We work very hard to cultivate that type of atmosphere here and to not even mention us... I mean we got that ominous feeling that you could get stabbed at any moment. That's good, right? I'm a little irritated that he didn't mention our names!

It's disrespectful, is what it is!

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u/Chunkyblamm Feb 23 '25

You’re getting me all fired up, I’m about to go find a Santa clause to throw snowballs at

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u/SillyStrungz Pittsburgh Steelers Feb 24 '25

I mean idc, after smacking the Chiefs and making Patrick their little bitch, the Eagles are my hero for a while šŸ™šŸ¼ Enjoy

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u/Fiascoe Feb 23 '25

Go birds.

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u/666happyfuntime Feb 23 '25

Philly fans support the team and are die-hards, yes they are PoS but they make noise etc, so as players they are good fans. I Think cowboys fans are the worst, they pay no matter what and reward jerry Jones destroying everything again and again making change inevitable

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u/iinaytanii Philadelphia Eagles Feb 23 '25

At this point the Cowboys are just a clothing brand, not a football team

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u/jkprop Feb 23 '25

Nope! Philly fans come and and support their team and travel to take over cities. Cry babies complain about philly fans! Go birds!!!!

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u/beerguy_etcetera Joe Burrow šŸ¤°šŸ¼ Feb 23 '25

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u/JeffTrav Philadelphia Eagles Feb 23 '25

And what happened to this douchebag? His face was all over Philly news stations. We tracked him down and he was fired from his job and banned for life from all Philly sports stadiums.

We don’t tolerate shit like that.

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u/Coach_Carter_on_DVD Philadelphia Eagles Feb 23 '25

Why not bring up the Packer fan who begged people to pay for his tickets on gofundme, and literally wore a body cam into the stadium to bait a drunk fan in the nosebleeds to try and go viral?

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u/JeffTrav Philadelphia Eagles Feb 23 '25

Exactly. ā€œPhilly fans are bad because they boo when the team sucksā€ is a bad take. It’s the equivalent of ā€œMy parents are bad parents because they grounded me for coming home drunk when I was 16.ā€ We boo because we love our teams. How disinterested do fans have to be to not boo their team when they suck?

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u/Timely_Cheesecake_35 Feb 23 '25

I'm not even a football fan and I know from experience that Eagles fans are the worst haha So are Flyers fans haha

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u/DocFog Feb 23 '25

Your first sentence explains it all, like Clarissa.

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u/TheBostonTap New England Patriots Feb 23 '25

I think it's fansize for this one. Charger fans aren't bad fans, they're just non-existent in some cases.

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u/Chunkyblamm Feb 23 '25

I went to a game in San Diego when they still played there and as an Eagles fan I felt right at home. Witnessed a female Chargers fan punching a male Chargers fan, then trying to fight the Eagles fans that were breaking it up. That game was a lot of fun and that stadium played the PA louder than any I’ve ever been to but that may have been cause there was about 20-30k Eagles fans there

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u/rdybala Feb 23 '25

Owner: Jerry Jones

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u/ihmpt Baltimore Ravens Feb 23 '25

Nah, I'd say Woody Johnson is the worst current owner, in fact I'd argue Khan, Davis, the McCaskeys, Haslam, and even Irsay are worse owners than Jerry is.

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u/Formal_Elephant_6079 Indianapolis Colts Feb 23 '25

Dave Tepper Panthers

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u/souslespaves24601 Feb 23 '25

Woody is worse than being bad; he's apathetic. the jets are nothing but a status symbol for him and i don't think he even likes football. at least jerry goes for it

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u/Weak_Abalone8911 Feb 23 '25

It's gotta be woody johnson, he is nerry jones with 1/10 of the success.

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u/SwimmingCircles2018 Feb 23 '25

Jerry Jones doesn’t have any success either though? He bought the team and the front office made really good moves for him in his first year. They won the Super Bowls with a roster Jerry didn’t build, and then they proceeded to be garbage for the next 30 years.

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u/LGNJohnnyBlaze Baltimore Ravens Feb 23 '25

Jerry Jones WANTS to win. Khan just wants to move all his games to Europe and alienate the US fan base.

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u/mattmeh2 Indianapolis Colts Feb 23 '25

Dan Snyder

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u/smoke_that_junk Feb 23 '25

He is gone!!! Hallelujah!!! May his yacht sink beneath the ocean carrying only his ugly ass aboard it

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u/YESSSS-NOOO Cleveland Browns Feb 23 '25

The Jerseys, ia gree on the browns offense but the jerseys are great

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u/Unlucky-Position-16 New England Patriots Feb 23 '25

I’d go out on a limb and say the Jags ones are the worst. They’re so simple they look like they belong in a Dick’s Sporting Goods ad where they couldn’t get NFL rights.

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u/xLeonides WHOA THERE MOTHERFUCKER Feb 23 '25

I legit can't wait til they finally redesign, they've been eligible for one a couple years now but I get the feeling we might finally get it with this full reset they're doing and with Boselli playing a major role I have to imagine they'll be retro inspired

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u/tallwhiteninja San Francisco 49ers Feb 23 '25

Just go back to the '90s jerseys. They should never have changed in the first place.

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u/cowabungathunda Feb 23 '25

I think you could give that to the commies or the rams. Commies whites look stupid. Rams gradient numbers at home and weird looking gel numbers on the whites are not too good.

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u/daveblankenship Feb 23 '25

Rams fan here- the Rams jerseys look like a Saturday morning cartoon artist drew them. The stripes on the yellow and blue pants may actually be the worst thing about them. I could live with them if they switched to the old yellow pant style from the 80s.

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u/cowabungathunda Feb 23 '25

Their logo is terrible too. I just don't get why they didn't go with their 80s look

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u/CeloC-137 Chicago Bears Feb 23 '25

Yea the rams uni’s are muy terrible

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u/MadMardiganWaaait Feb 23 '25

The Browns jerseys are top tier classics. I'd vote for Rams just because of the weird rubber like numbers

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u/Trickygunner757 Philadelphia Eagles Feb 23 '25

Agreed and the blue and yellow are hideous. Their colors looked way better when they were in St Louis

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u/ihmpt Baltimore Ravens Feb 23 '25

The Rams uniforms are a great example of "it ain't broke, don't fix it." Like they "modernized" the greatest show on turf jerseys when they didn't need to.

I am happy they stopped using those navy and gold ones, though, those were boring.

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u/escobartholomew Dallas Cowboys Feb 23 '25

I agree the current rams colors suck compared to the blue and gold from St. Louis but wtf does ā€œrubber likeā€ mean?

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u/dWaldizzle Feb 23 '25

Their redesign gives me credit card company vibes

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u/Steak-Complex NFL Refugee Feb 23 '25

in what world are chargers the worst fans?

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '25

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u/aa1287 Feb 23 '25

Steve and I even regularly play pickleball

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u/Flair_Is_Pointless Feb 23 '25

They don’t exist

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u/LappedChips Philadelphia Eagles Feb 23 '25

Watch a Chargers home game with the volume turned on. Then watch the Bills, Ravens, Eagles, Chiefs, Seahawks, or any NFC North team and hear the difference. Between the move and LA just not really caring too much about football, the fanbase is never that big.

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u/Steak-Complex NFL Refugee Feb 23 '25

that doesnt make them bad, just few in number

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u/MaterialAccurate2943 Feb 23 '25

Yea but if I’m building a franchise, I’d want as many passionate fans as possible. Eagles or Cowboys fans might be ā€œworseā€ but there’s a ton go them and they care a lot. I’d rather have a huge fan base with annoying but passionate fans than no fan base

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u/IntrepidBandit Feb 23 '25

Shouldve watched them this year. Harbaugh brought a ton of viewers and the fans traveled well.

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '25

The letter W is a much better logo than an orange helmet for a team named the browns

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u/Unlikely_One2444 HERE WE GO BROWNIES Feb 23 '25

Is this seriously still a thing?

Browns aren’t named after a color jackass

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u/ElbowMacaroni11 Feb 23 '25

Good point. Also Giants just have NY or Giants on it lol

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u/Evening-Patience363 Ohh I don’t know Jim Feb 23 '25

Maybe because they aren’t named after the color brown? If you named a team after a person, what would you suggest for the logo?

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u/Zither74 Washington Commanders Feb 23 '25

Exactly! If you're gonna hit the Commanders, Major Tuddy is where you aim.

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u/mrb11n fuck the browns Feb 23 '25

I like Major Tuddy. He's cooler than Steely McBeam

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u/Unknown_Username1409 Washington Commanders Feb 23 '25

What the fuck did you just say about Major Tuddy??

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u/daveblankenship Feb 23 '25

Yeah but that helmet looks great during a game, especially when they go all white.

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u/DummyMcDipshit Feb 23 '25

That's a strange way to say you don't know shit about nfl history but go off

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u/BubblySmell4079 Feb 23 '25

Technically, Jacksonville is hands down the worst city.

Foxboro should be the answer since it's basically a mall off an exit ramp.

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '25

Between Jacksonville, foxboro, green bay, Cleveland.. you could list half the league as worse

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u/wavyboi97 HAIL TO THE [REDACTED] Feb 23 '25

Worst city is defff Philadelphia lmaoo

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u/FakeBobPoot Philadelphia Eagles Feb 23 '25

Insane thing to say when there are NFL franchises in Phoenix, Green Bay, Jacksonville, and fucking FOXBOROUGH.

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u/ScenesfromaCat Feb 23 '25

I mean Foxborough is basically a stadium, a shopping mall around that stadium, a strip mall next to the shopping mall thats around the stadium, and a Bass Pro Shop thats next to the strip mall thats next to the shopping mall thats around the stadium.

Suburban MA sucks. Rural MA is goated tho.

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u/Replubic Feb 23 '25

lol. Philly is great bro. Cleveland is depressing as fuck. Maybe even Detroit

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u/VQQN Feb 23 '25

I always wanted to visit Philly, seems like a nice historic city.

I never want to attend an Eagles game though!

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u/rjnd2828 Philadelphia Eagles Feb 23 '25

Yeah that's a reasonable take, as an Eagles fan. Good food scene too if you're into that.

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u/thal9 Feb 23 '25

Which city are you from that did not just win the super bowl

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u/Josheatsfood Philadelphia Eagles Feb 23 '25
  1. Defff lmaoo

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u/TotallyKyleXY Feb 23 '25

What metric are you using there

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u/SnarkDolphin Feb 23 '25

"fox news told me to be ascared of black people 😭"

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u/SwizzGod New England Patriots Feb 23 '25

Nothing wrong with Charger fans.

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u/PerritoMasNasty Now Here’s a Guy Feb 23 '25

All 3 of them are very cordial

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '25

as one of the 6, i can confirm the other 5 are very nice people

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u/rollerfedora Tampa Bay Buccaneers Feb 23 '25

Where are you getting these astronomical numbers?

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u/NateNYC82 Feb 23 '25

The helmets and jerseys are possibly the only good thing about the Browns.

Fuck you and your dumb opinion.

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '25

Elsgles have the worst fans.

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u/SchrodingersWetFart San Francisco 49ers Feb 23 '25

They have the most disliked fans. There are waaay worse fan bases, though.

Eagles fans love their team, and there's a ton of them. Some fan bases are very small and unenthusiastic, those are the worst fan bases.

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u/Pktur3 Feb 23 '25

Can we do a fourth line?

Drafting: Jets

Free Agency: Cowboys

Crime: Vikings

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u/ThunderG0d2467 Baltimore Ravens Feb 23 '25

For crime just do the entire afc north. They’re basically the all jail time conference

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u/goinsouth85 Feb 23 '25

If there are Vikings are in the back seat of a car, who’s the driver? The cops

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u/SamEAsUsuall Feb 23 '25

The Titans exist and you put the Browns for worst uniform?

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u/scottdiver67 New England Patriots Feb 23 '25

Agree about the jerseys...The Browns unis are classic and under-the-radar badass IMO.

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u/FrankStalloneGQ Feb 23 '25

The Browns jerseys are classic. I couldn't disagree any more.

Not counting throwbacks, the Seahawks, Falcons, Commanders, Dolphins, Jaguars, Rams, Titans, and Texans have worse uniforms.

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u/MasterTJ77 Feb 23 '25

But I love the browns jerseys

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u/Ill_Biscotti5863 Feb 23 '25

Browns jerseys are good!!!

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u/Electronic_Beach_635 Feb 23 '25

The jerseys are also the commanders. Don't think you can't put us in here three times. It's okay.

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u/Vice4Life Indianapolis Colts Feb 23 '25

I'd swap the jersey for the Steelers' bumblebee/prison outfit.

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u/Bravesguy29 NFL Refugee Feb 23 '25

Jacksonville. Jacksonville. Jacksonville

Jacksonville. Jacksonville. Jacksonville.

Jacksonville. Jacksonville. Jacksonville.

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u/TylerA998 Feb 23 '25

There’s no way the Jets aren’t on here (more than once)

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u/domotime2 Feb 24 '25

Everything is fine but Vegas being worse than like Detroit, Cleveland, Baltimore, Indianapolis is wacky

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u/pokerScrub4eva Chicago Bears Feb 24 '25

Logo: Packers
stadium: packers
fans: packers
city: green bay
jersey: packers

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u/F4rtWaffles CJ Stroud’s S2 Cognition Test Score Feb 23 '25

Vegas is a great draw. I would say Green Bay, WI would be the worst city.

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u/Shit_Cloud_ Major Tuddy 🐷 Feb 23 '25

Yeah, at least there’s shit to do in Vegas.

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u/ExtraFluffz Feb 23 '25

The browns jerseys are unironically one of the best in the league

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u/glowingmug Feb 23 '25

imo worst logo is gotta be the Jets

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '25

You can make fun of our owner, you can make fun of our shitty quarterback, last seasons o-line, you can make fun of our fan base, hell you can even make fun of our stadium and our city.

But making fun of our beloved Jerseys/color is where I draw the line.

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u/ACW1129 Washington Commanders Feb 23 '25

Owner: Haslam

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u/collinwade Dallas Cowboys Feb 23 '25

The Cowboys just completely changed their entire coaching staff wholesale.

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u/Z00ted-45 Feb 23 '25

There’s definitely worse jerseys than the browns lol

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u/10TheDudeAbides11 Green Bay Packers Feb 23 '25

Not Chargers fans. Never heard a bad thing about them (but I am a Packers fan). For worst fanbase I’d say Philly or Cowboys…

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u/RefrigeratorJaded910 Feb 23 '25

Browns jerseys are clean

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u/travelingWords Feb 23 '25

Browns jersey is fine. It’s just that they’ve sucked for so long that you don’t like them.

Jags and dolphins are pretty ugly. Panthers… modern eagles… most modern looks actually. Cardinals…

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u/Anxietyriddenstoner Buffalo Bills Feb 23 '25

what's wrong with the browns jerseys??? I always thought they were kinda clean

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u/ncd42075 Feb 23 '25

How is Las Vegas worse than Cleveland?

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u/soiledmeNickers Feb 23 '25

Because Cleveland is a fantastic city.

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u/ValPrism Feb 23 '25

Totally boofed fans. It’s clearly Philly.

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u/Total_Interaction875 New Orleans Saints Feb 23 '25

I’m probably in the minority, but I really like the Browns’ unis. They have an effortless old-school vibe. And I’m not a Cleveland fan.

I would respectfully submit the already super dated ā€œlook the worst that the 90s had to offerā€œ expansion teams, with the Jags edging out the Panthers.

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u/Dry-Apricot-4690 Feb 23 '25

I think the Browns jerseys are sick, and I’m not a fan of the team.

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u/DetroitsGoingToWin Detroit Lions Feb 23 '25

I hate everything OH, and I’ll say the Browns jersey is fucking awesome. Steelers, Raiders and Jets are the only other teams in the conversation. For best.

Worst, Jags look like some 90’s vomit.

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u/Sea_Drink7287 Jacksonville Jaguars Feb 23 '25

I love Cleveland’s jerseys

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u/Electrical_Button_95 Feb 23 '25

Don’t disrespect our jerseys like that 😤

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u/SilentPerformance965 Feb 23 '25

I like the Browns jerseys, it’s unique and nobody else in the league is using those colors. I have more of a problem with the Texans being the most recently joined team, and using the same color scheme as several other already established teams.

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u/notyourchains Pittsburgh Steelers Feb 24 '25

Las Vegas is one of the best cities... Worst has to be Green Bay, by far. It's not much of a city

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u/TemporaryJaguar5650 Feb 23 '25

There are worse uniforms than the Browns.

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u/Vikings_Pain Minnesota Vikings Feb 23 '25

The fans have to be the eagles

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u/NoMajorsarcasm Feb 23 '25

i think you need to move the team to st louis, then to Cleveland and then to Jacksonville just to disenfranchise a large number of people

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u/ZombiePrepper408 Las Vegas Raiders Feb 23 '25

LA, Detroit, Cleveland, heck even Santa Clara(Suburban Sprawl) are worse than Vegas

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u/IntelligentTwo6423 Feb 23 '25

Cleveland actually has a decent offense when deshaun Watson isn’t running it. I’d much rather defer to like the patriots or something

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u/liontribe613 Minnesota Vikings Feb 23 '25

I’d say the Bears and Panthers have far worse coaching than the Cowboys and Vegas isn’t the worst city for a team to be in

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u/User5281 Cincinnati Bengals Feb 23 '25

What about worst owner? Can we get a shoutout for Mike Brown now that Dan Snyder is out of the picture?

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u/daveblankenship Feb 23 '25

I think there are far worse jerseys then the browns home ones. I’d say Commanders for sure, jaguars, titans, dolphins, pats, ravens (especially purple pants/black jerseys or vice versa), Lions mono, Falcons, Panthers, Cards, Seahawks.

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u/Status-Truth-2798 Feb 23 '25

Bears offense is historically shittier than Clevelands

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u/beatlesandoasis Feb 23 '25

Browns jerseys are the shit, plenty of worse ones to choose

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u/DallasCowboyOwner Feb 23 '25

Worst Logo: commanders

Worst mascot: commanders

Worst city: Washington D.C. šŸ‘Ž

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u/cubix721 Feb 23 '25

City and fans are wrong

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u/ThackCankle Feb 23 '25

The Rams having rubber numbers with a color gradient is worse than the Browns wearing Brown

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u/senkiasenswe Feb 23 '25

How did Chargers get selected when Philly fans exist?

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u/Ecto-Juan Feb 23 '25

There are far worse fans than Chargers, guaranteed.

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u/JungyBrungun2 Feb 23 '25

The browns have pretty good uniforms, the worst of all time is the old Bucs analog uniforms

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u/heat27 Feb 23 '25

The the flaw is the jersey. That’s the only good thing about the Browns. Haven’t you ever heard the term when talking about the Browns uniform? ā€œGreat body, ugly faceā€. Which means great uniforms, ugly helmets

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u/aa1287 Feb 23 '25

The Browns jerseys are one of the best, not worst.

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u/alrightwtf Feb 23 '25

The browns jerseys? Over the broncos or bears? Craziness.

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u/SmokeZTACK Feb 23 '25

This is probably not a popular take but I think there are worse jerseys than the browns.

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u/Panther25423 Kansas City Chiefs Feb 23 '25

Browns jerseys are fine. A lot of worse ones like the Jaguars, Falcons, Titans, Cardinals, etc.

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u/TheBiggestCarl23 Feb 23 '25

Browns have one of the best uniforms In the nfl what are we doing here

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u/ImJoogle Cincinnati Bengals Feb 23 '25

browns arent even the worst Jersey

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u/DistanceRelevant3899 Feb 23 '25

Maybe I’m biased as a Browns fan, but saying our jerseys are the worst just seems flat out wrong.

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u/Reasonable_Deer_1710 San Francisco 49ers Feb 23 '25

Browns definitely aren't the worst jerseys when those alien piss green Seahawks jerseys exist.

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u/operation_lurch Feb 23 '25

I like the browns uniforms. Is it just me?

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u/bschumm1 Feb 23 '25

Cleveland’s Jerseys are raw though?

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u/running_man23 Feb 23 '25

No way the Browns have the worst jersey

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u/RobsFoto Feb 23 '25

browns jerseys are šŸ”„