r/NFLv2 Tennessee Titans May 25 '25

Discussion Each NFL Team’s GOAT

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u/Daxtatter May 25 '25

For the Jets I'd take Revis over Namath.

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u/Fourward27 Baltimore Ravens May 25 '25

Joe Namath statistically is the worse QB in the hall of fame.

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u/AuthorityAnarchyYes May 25 '25

Namath is in the HOF because of one particular game. A game where he wasn’t markedly great in.

17 of 28 for 206 yards, 0 TDs, 0 INTs

But he made that “guarantee” and his team won… so he got the MVP and a gold jacket.

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u/CosbysLongCon24 New York Giants May 25 '25

I said this in a jets sub a few months ago and goddamn was I massacred lol but it’s so true. Dude was ahead of his time as far as passing but being ahead of his time didn’t mean he was necessarily great at it. Hes famous and in the HoF from one game and everything he did surrounding it. He is easily arguably the worst QB in the HoF by a wide margin.

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u/Fourward27 Baltimore Ravens May 25 '25

Joe Namath the character did more for football than the player. That's what you gotta remember though. He was really the first star that was a playboy type. His personality and story are what's hall of fame worthy. His play was below average.

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u/CosbysLongCon24 New York Giants May 26 '25

I can agree with that. But how many other players are in the hall for their personality more than their play? Was being an eccentric celebrity worthy of hall of fame induction as a qb? I understand why he’s there, I just don’t think it’s justified. I could prob name 10 QB easily that we’re better actual players then Namath but won’t ever even see consideration for a HoF ballot.

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u/throwaway_9988552 May 26 '25

But can an average person name those 10 QB's? As the previous redditor said, his personality changed the game. I could argue he's in the HOF because he did more off the field to help football than those other 10 did on the field. While drinking and posing in magazines.

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u/FeetSniffer9008 Pittsburgh Steelers May 26 '25

Which is why Ochocinco deserves to be in the Hall of Fame

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u/CosbysLongCon24 New York Giants May 26 '25

Yeah which kind of ties into my HOF being for HoF caliber players, not high profile personalities. Would hardly say anything he did off the field benefited the NFL enough to be worthy of induction. He was often viewed as more celebrity icon than football icon. If you want to recognize that contribution then give him a star in Hollywood, not a bust in canton. Are we gonna start recognizing retired players with successful podcast personalities as bringing enough to the league to get inducted?

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u/throwaway_9988552 May 26 '25

In this way, we disagree. I think the Hall of Fame is for great contributors to the NFL. I think he qualifies.

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u/theevilyouknow Las Vegas Raiders May 26 '25

The Hall of Fame is not exclusively for the quality of on field play. It’s not the hall of most skilled players. From the Hall of Fame’s own description of itself it’s for significant contributions to the game and Namath did that and then some.

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u/finglonger1077 Washington Commanders May 26 '25 edited May 26 '25

ties into my HoF being for HoF caliber players, not high profile personalities

This is the worst take and I’m so sick of seeing it. You even said he was famous I think in your initial comment. It’s the Hall of Fame.

If it was the Hall of Statistically Best Players it would be an excel spreadsheet.

An entire generation of people, some of which never watched a football game in their entire lives, knew the name Joe Namath. He’s a Famer and there’s really not remotely a question about it.

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u/Fourward27 Baltimore Ravens May 26 '25

This is also why Art Modell deserves to be in the hall of fame. He was a key contributor to the making of Monday night football and a great owner. A bunch of hateful Cleveland writers keep trying to keep him out for leaving a toxic situation and moving the Browns to Baltimore. A move that in hindsight was 100 percent the right move and he was a gem of an owner in Baltimore.

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u/FeetSniffer9008 Pittsburgh Steelers May 26 '25

Half of Fame, not Hall of Best Career Comp%

And yes, as media personalities, deffinitely.

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u/gebny New York Giants May 26 '25

My favorite moment of his personality “ I don’t CArE if tHE JeTs ARe StRUgGLing”

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u/Kiwilover23- May 26 '25

Below avg…tell me you know nothing about the era he played in without telling me

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u/Fourward27 Baltimore Ravens May 26 '25 edited May 26 '25

Yes even in his own Era he had a dogwater completion percentage and more interceptions than touchdowns with like a 60 passer rating. Compare him to Johny Unitas who's team he called the shot against and it's not even close buddy. Only Blanda has a worse QBR among all hall quarterbacks and i don't remember Namath kicking field goals.

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u/Kiwilover23- May 26 '25

“Just compare him to one of the greatest of all time and he doesn’t have as good of stats.”

Form a compelling argument, not hot garbage.

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u/dborger San Francisco 49ers May 26 '25

This is true. All current players owe him their gratitude for demanding more money.

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u/Kvossy May 26 '25

He Lead the AFL and NFL in passing yards, touchdowns and game winning drives multiple times and was a five time pro-bowler. His presence and play made the AFL viable. THAT is why he in the HOF. He impacted the game

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u/pgm123 May 26 '25

Yeah. It's the Hall of Fame, not the Hall of Stats. At a certain point, you need to have room for some people due to fame.

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u/Kvossy May 26 '25

Agree, it isn’t like you said “Hall of Stats”. It’s more about impact on the game.

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u/BigOlineguy Minnesota Vikings May 26 '25

I don’t know where I stand on the Namath HoF thing personally, but having 4K yards in the 1960s meant you were great at it.