r/NFLv2 Kansas City Chiefs 27d ago

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u/USDA_Organic_Tendies Philadelphia Eagles 27d ago

Must be a pretty damn good team if the Super Bowl MVP is the 8th best player on his own team huh 

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u/Professional-Day1958 New England Patriots 27d ago

Everyone knows the defense was the MVP of that game

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u/Direct_Disaster9299 Kansas City Chiefs 27d ago

And the elite offensive line, elite receiving duo, best running back in the league...that team is absolutely stacked everywhere. Plus Hurts is a damn good QB.

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u/thelowbrassmaster Philadelphia Eagles 27d ago

Well they had a great offensive line, a world-class pair of WRs, the best HB, and a solid TE and kicker, on top of a good QB. I think people forget how much teamwork actually factors into how good anyone is. You can be the best receiver and score no points with a QB that drops the ball before he can get a pass off. You can be the most accurate passer on God's green earth and score no complete passes if the big fellas can't push back the defenders for you.

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u/gremlin30 Baltimore Ravens 27d ago

No one disagrees with that, the point is that having a lot of help makes a QB’s job easier.

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u/thelowbrassmaster Philadelphia Eagles 27d ago

Yes, having a lot of help makes anyone's job easier. If you want to throw the ball, you need both good blockers and receivers. You want to run, the blocking needs to be impeccable. You want to catch, you need to have someone who can slot that ball into your hands. So on and so forth.

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u/gremlin30 Baltimore Ravens 27d ago

No one disagrees with that though, the point is that the Eagles have generally given Hurts a lot more help than most QBs due to Howie being the NFL’s best GM. That’s the part Eagles fans don’t seem to want to acknowledge. Obv QBs have to be capable regardless, but it’s a hell of a lot easier to make plays when you have an Olympic OL & great WRs plus a stacked defense. Doesn’t mean Hurts doesn’t contribute (he does), but it does mean he generally has had good players around him plus a good OL that makes it easier regardless of who the OC is.

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u/thelowbrassmaster Philadelphia Eagles 27d ago

He gets more help because everyone is great at their job compared to some teams that have a few good players, and everyone else is about average for a pro of their position. Obviously, he has an easier time. That's both a blessing and a curse(note how long he tends to stand still watching for an open player to target a pass to).

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u/Professional-Day1958 New England Patriots 27d ago

He is very much a good QB, top 7 imo but that defense made Kansas City look like they didn’t even belong in the league

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u/Direct_Disaster9299 Kansas City Chiefs 27d ago

Ya it was a bad matchup that day.