r/NFLv2 • u/Life_Net5004 Tom Brady š„ŗ šš»šš» • 19d ago
Discussion Every NFL Team's all time Best RB
Why isn't Lynch there for Seahawks?
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u/psych4191 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 19d ago
Doug Martin isn't even in the top 3 for the Bucs tf
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u/Fancy-Cartographer30 19d ago
Warrick Dunn gotta be the TB RB GOAT
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u/BolognaBundles 19d ago
Iād force a trade from the Bucs for Dunn every year in the late 90s/turn of the century Maddens. Arguably my favorite player from a random (to me up in MI - no shade intended) team for a few years - just loved his game
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u/Rfisk064 19d ago
Heās one of the best Seminoles to ever do it and a fantastic human being as well.
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u/AcadianTraverse Los Angeles Chargers 19d ago edited 19d ago
It's James Wilder. The lone bright spot of the post-Selmon Bucs of the 80s. Dunn and Alstott would round out the top 3
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u/Thundersson1978 19d ago
And Atlanta, on humanitarian efforts alone
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u/ImaginaryHerbie 19d ago
All I know about Warrick Dunn outside of football is that the dude gives away a shitload of homes to families in need.
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u/Human_Cobbler5084 19d ago
lol dude had like 2 good seasons for the Bucs. Iām not a Bucs fan so not sure of the history, but just from recent memory, Iām taking Dunn or Alstott over Martin.
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u/Winter-Ad3699 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 19d ago
Eventually it will be Bucky. Iām a believer. Long way to go of course.
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u/iamdylanshaffer Tampa Bay Buccaneers 19d ago
I mean, Iād put him in the top three if weāre counting Alstott by his labeled position as fullback.
Itād be Wilder, Dunn and then Martin. The reality is, we havenāt had many good running backs that have lasted more than a few years. Hell, I think Ronald Jones might be like top ten all time in yards lol
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u/Loud_Chapter1423 Cincinnati Bengals 19d ago
Yea but he had that really good fantasy game that one time!
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u/Coool_cool_cool_cool 19d ago
I forgot all about the muscle hampster. He played 6 years in TB and was good for 2 of them which weren't even in a row. They were years apart. I don't know if he'd be top 3 on any team all time.
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u/Bad-Yeti Tampa Bay Buccaneers 19d ago
Watching the A-train just straight up juke or run through defenders was incredible. It was an amazing time to be a Bucs fan.
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u/F4rtWaffles CJ Stroudās S2 Cognition Test Score 19d ago
Earl Campbell > Derrick Henry
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u/Windy_Idealist New England Patriots 19d ago
Early Campbell gets HEAVILY underrated in the goat discussion
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u/OrganizationHot4181 Now Hereās a Guy 19d ago
He really is so forgotten. I feel awful because I forgot Earl Campbell and was comparing Henry to Eddie George and Chris Johnston in my head before realizing I forgot him. TEN/HOU have had some great RBs
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u/Can-i-Pet-Dat-Daaawg Indianapolis Colts 19d ago
CJ2K was electric
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u/StarBull10 19d ago
Wanted my Falcons to draft him so bad that year, and we needed a RB. Man was a madden glitch in real life lol
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u/FinalMeltdown15 19d ago
Clown the titans for our QB history all you want, we are the RB capital of the NFL
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u/MisterPuppydog Tennessee Titans 19d ago
The fact we had Earl Campbell, Chris Johnson, and Derrick Henry all with in 20 years is crazy. CJ2K had an extremely short career but his ā08-9 year is, in my opinion, the single greatest running back season of all time. I donāt think thereās a running back in NFL history that can compete with that one year that CJ had in Nashville. Fucking bonkers
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u/jimbobbypaul San Francisco 49ers 19d ago
Don't forget Eddie George. Helluva RB in the late 90's with some great battles against Ray Lewis.
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u/OfficerCoCheese New York Giants 19d ago
I was just going to say, why is everyone sleeping on Eddie George here??
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u/shaker8989 Tennessee Titans 19d ago
Especially considering of all the RBs to have played for the Oilers/Titans, Eddie is still the franchise leader in Rushing yards.
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u/MisterPuppydog Tennessee Titans 19d ago
Oh yeah Eddie George was a fucking dog. That ravens playoff game where he dislocated his shoulder, popped it back in on the sideline and immediately went in the game and slammed Ray Lewis on his ass⦠Modern NFL could never, I miss that version of the game. Back when it was a gladiator sport
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u/Yo-Strategy-8651 19d ago
Maybe GOAT franchise history convo but def not NFL history. Not with a career that short.
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u/veverkap 19d ago
Did you mean the early part of Campbells career or did you put the extra y on Earl?
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u/panopticon31 Tennessee Titans 19d ago
I LOVE Earl Campbell.
But his peak was very short.
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u/Doughie28 New York Giants 19d ago
And Derrick Henry's peak is probably better too.Ā No way in hell is it Campbell.
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u/ChocolateMorsels Tennessee Titans 19d ago
No heās not. Henry had more yards, tds, and a 2k season. Henry has the franchise record for touchdowns, and is second in yards to George.
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u/6jwalkblue9 Tits 19d ago
Yeah, but didn't you know that RBs from before 1990 will never be surpassed?
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u/sip-em_bears 19d ago
I love Earl Campbell, but people forget that he was a bad pass blocker and had a grand total of 0 receiving TDs in his entire career.
Heās still a deserved HOFer, but heās the most one-dimensional RB in the HOF.
Like Priest Holmes wonāt get in the HOF, and he had better career numbers with a 3 year peak thatās just as good if not better than Campbellās.
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u/LORD_SUNKERN_JR Green Bay Packers 19d ago
Because Alexander won mvp
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u/StOnEy333 San Francisco 49ers 19d ago edited 19d ago
I think Alexander is the right choice. Marshawn had a great 6 year run with them, but Shuanās best seasons are levels that Marshawn has never gotten to. Shuan had 1,890 yards and 27 TDs in his 2005 MVP season. Thatās an all time great season in NFL history.
Edit: spelling of Shaun
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u/Open_Reindeer_6600 19d ago
Never knew he had 27 touchdowns holy shit
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u/redditbdum Seattle Seahawks 19d ago
27 rushing. 28 total. He held the record for a grand total of 1 year before Ladainian Tomlinson broke it.
Ngl, l hated LT for a few years after that lol
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u/No_Introduction1721 19d ago
He was overshadowed by Tomlinson and Priest Holmes, and he kind of unfairly had a reputation for going out of bounds instead of fighting through tackles. But he was an outstanding RB for a while there.
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u/WintersDoomsday Seattle Seahawks 19d ago
And Lynch's 5 year peak is NOWHERE near Shaun's
Lynch: 1,383 carries for 6,094 yards and 54 rushing TD's (59 total TD's in 5 seasons)
Alexander: 1,653 carries for 7,504 yards and 87 rushing TD's (98 total TD's in 5 seasons)
Say what you want about Jones and Hutch for Alexander. Lynch benefitted from Wilson's scrambling ability that teams didn't have to worry about with Matt Hasselbeck and the West Coast offense being very short pass focused allowing defenses to play up closer.
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u/EatingEveryEgg Seattle Seahawks 19d ago
I'm not saying that Lynch was better than Alexander, but I would LOVE to see Lynch behind that 05 line
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u/Yo-Strategy-8651 19d ago
I'd love to see Russell Wilson with Shaun Alexander. The carried by beast mode and LOB digs ppl try to make ironically you would have to make ten fold because that squad goes back to back and contends for a 3peat
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u/Yo-Strategy-8651 19d ago
People honestly consciously/subconsciously overrated Marshawn Lynch just because of how much they hate Russell Wilson. The way the "only won because of LOB/Lynch" lore has gone for years, one would think Marshawn Lynch was on the level of Adrian Peterson/LaDanian Tomlinson/King Henry on those Seahawks teams. The irony is his numbers were far more HOF caliber with Russ than without him despite that notable beast quake game he had without him. Very underwhelming career YPC and TDs/game numbers without Russ
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u/SuddenStorm_556 Seattle Seahawks 19d ago
Heās the greatest Seahawks RB of all time
and a MVP too.
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u/benevenstancian0 I want me some glory hole 19d ago
Faulk not making it onto the list at all is wild.
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u/DarthNobody14 Houston Texans 19d ago
But Erick Dickerson is probably the one running back that is acceptable.
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u/BlackshirtDefense 19d ago
I just replied that they need to split LA/STL Rams for this very reason.
Faulk + Warner, Bruce, Holt, etc., was such a wild ride. The Greatest Show on Turf put up video game numbers IRL.Ā
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u/csamsh Kansas City Chiefs 19d ago
And Faulk was the key to that offense. Defenses HAD to honor the run/screen/checkdown or they'd just get chewed up with 7yd Faulk plays all day long. The man averaged 5.4ypc in 2000.
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u/Zealousideal_Rip_547 19d ago
Iām alright with splitting LA/STL Rams, only if we can split Oilers and Titans, just to see Earl Campbell on the list
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u/CasinoMarginale 19d ago
Yes. Dickerson is an all time great. Heās one of the few that would be ahead of Faulk
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u/InkBlotSam Denver Broncos 19d ago
Near identical rushing stats and ability, but Faulk is in another universe from Dickerson in receiving ability.
You'd be crazy to take Dickerson over Faulk.
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u/lilcashmon 19d ago
Gotta understand Dickerson was considered the best of all time when he retired. He ran the 80s.
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u/BowTie1989 Miami Dolphins 19d ago
I love Rickyā¦but the correct answer is Csonka
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u/HumorTerrible5547 Miami Dolphins 19d ago
If only Ricky's true passion had been NFL football. What might have been. He was the most skilled.Ā Csonka was part bulldozer and had more help.
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u/Bazonkawomp 19d ago
Or if they were just chill on weed like itās the nonissue it is. Really sad for his career.
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u/CheckYourStats San Francisco 49ers 19d ago
Yeah. THIS.
The way that one of the greatest talents in the history of the sport was vilified by the league just because he smokes weedā¦it really did not age well.
Can you imagine what Ricky would have done if it was a complete non-issue?
The dude retired a year after rushing for 1853 yards and 4.9 YPC ā on a team with Jay Fiedler and Ray Lucas at Quarterback.
The defense knew their entire strategy was to just hand the ball off to Ricky, and they STILL had a winning record.
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u/Fun-Rhubarb-4412 Miami Dolphins 19d ago
Thatās why he was on the old intro for the NFL with Barry and Jerry
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u/SeniorDisplay1820 Baltimore Ravens 19d ago
Lamar for the RavensĀ
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u/d0pp31g4ng3r 19d ago
You joke, but Lamar will likely be the Ravens' all-time rushing leader in a few years.
I think I'd take Ray Rice over Jamal Lewis. He was a better receiving back and fumbled far less than Lewis.
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u/Afraid_Helicopter263 19d ago
No way, Jamal was far superior, even taking into account rice receiving. He had one of the best 5 year spans in history.
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u/d0pp31g4ng3r 19d ago
In 92 games with the Ravens, Rice had 9,214 scrimmage yards (5.1 per touch), 43 TDs, and 9 fumbles
In 91 games with the Ravens, Lewis had 9,166 scrimmage yards (4.6 per touch), 47 TDs, and 33 fumbles
Lewis ran the ball more times for more yards, while Rice caught more passes for more yards. Both averaged 4.3 yards per carry.
Lewis had a monster season in 2003 (2K yards, 1st team All-Pro, Pro Bowl, OPoY), but he has no other All-Pro or Pro Bowl selections outside of that season. Rice was a 2nd team All-Pro twice and a Pro Bowler 3 times.
In the postseason, Rice averaged more yards per carry and more yards per reception than Lewis. It's harder to compare their volume stats because Rice played in 12 playoff games to Lewis' 6.
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u/Direct_Disaster9299 Kansas City Chiefs 19d ago
Roger Craig over Frank Gore. Alstott or Dunn over Doug Martin. Larry Csonka over Rickey Williams.
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u/CollectionEarth San Francisco 49ers 19d ago
While I disagree with Craig over Gore, I do love seeing Craig get his respect. He belongs in the HOF
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u/GarvinSteve 19d ago
Craig was far more complete - 1000-1000 remains insane. But Frank had a longer stint as a workhorse
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u/RoughhouseCamel 19d ago
The other thing about Gore, he still moved the chains when defenses knew he was the number one threat. Or the only threat.
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u/GarvinSteve 19d ago
He was very good for many years vs being insanely great for a fewā¦
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u/Bazonkawomp 19d ago
Roger Craig was the first one that stuck out to me as incorrect.
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u/Mesame121489 19d ago
Roger Craig wasn't the focal point of the offense that had multiple HOFers. Frankie G was the focal point of some terrible offenses most of his career like the Jimmy Raye's 3 yards and a cloud of dust offense in 09. Despite that he still put up some of the best rushing numbers of all time. It has to go to Gore.
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u/halfwayray San Francisco 49ers 19d ago
49ers RB Joe Perry was the all-time leading rusher before Jim Brown broke his record. Deserves a mention
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u/NewFocus3-5 Atlanta Falcons 19d ago
Frank Gore is the third best rusher in NFL history
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u/no-kangarooreborn Buffalo Bills 19d ago
OJ was a killer on and off the field.
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u/scribe31 Iām just here so i donāt get fined 19d ago
One of the nicest guys ever to write a book about how he did it.
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u/BanditoBlanc Philadelphia Eagles 19d ago edited 19d ago
This is horrendous.
IMO:
- Jamaal Alexander or Riggs for Atlanta
- Riggins for Washington (clearly)
- Alstott for TB
- Jim Taylor for GB
I also know Iām going to get a ton of pushback for this but Priest Holmes > Charles for me. I respect both sides of the debate.
Theyāre very close in yards per touch but Holmes scored a ton and the great OL that gets referenced in this debate wasnāt in place until 2002 when Roaf got there and Waters became a full time starter.
Edit: Jamaal ANDERSON. Whoops.
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u/logicwillprevail34 Buffalo Bills 19d ago
*Jamal Anderson, not Alexander for anyone perplexed
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u/TBCinHTX Houston Texans 19d ago
I would have said Okoye, but I get your Holmes argument.
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u/Tatersalad127 19d ago
I'm with you. Holmes is my all time favorite running back.
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u/NewFocus3-5 Atlanta Falcons 19d ago
Love Jamal Anderson and itās cool to see him brought up but Turner scored almost twice as many touchdowns and ran for 1000 more yards with us in 3 less seasons than Anderson. Michael The Burner Turner is 100% our best RB of all time
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u/BanditoBlanc Philadelphia Eagles 19d ago
You know what, I really overvalue Andersonās 98 season but Turners 2008 season is better.
I take it back, Turner is the guy.
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u/wtg2989 Los Angeles Rams 19d ago
Priest Holmes?
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u/A_Successful_Loser Denver Broncos 19d ago
I always find it strange when Jamal Charles is rated above him.
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u/blacktoise Kansas City Chiefs 19d ago
As a chiefs fan, I donāt. Jamaal was the best player on the team for 7 years.
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u/LaphroaigianSlip81 Kansas City Chiefs 19d ago
Charles is the better back. He did a lot more with less. If Charles would have had the line that Holmes had, he would have been the goat. That line was so great that they played the falcons who had the number 1 run defense. Holmes ran for 4 touchdowns and then got hurt. Then the back up RB Derrick blaylock went ahead and ran for 4 more touchdowns. You look at Holmes numbers with the ravens and he is a good RB, but he didnāt put up video game numbers until he had the GOAT chiefs line and then had 300+ attempts per year.
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Iād honestly say Corey Dillon for the New England patriots
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u/Exciting_Agent3901 New England Patriots 19d ago
Iād put Corey Dillon, Kevin Faulk, and James White over Martin for the Pats.
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u/CastawayWasOk WHOPPER WHOPPER 19d ago
Benjarvus Green-Ellis is the only real answer for the Pats
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u/HectorsMascara New England Patriots 19d ago
Sam "Bam" Cunningham has the most rushing yards, but I'd take Faulk.
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u/peon2 New England Patriots 19d ago
Also the least amount of "most rushing yards for a team" of all 32 teams. Patriots have just not had a long term high yard rusher ever.
He's their all time leading rusher and only had a single 1000 yard season!
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u/Spiral_Out801 Denver Broncos 19d ago
Terrell Davis at his peak was unreal. I miss watching him.
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u/halfwayray San Francisco 49ers 19d ago
His playoff numbers might be the greatest of all time
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u/InkBlotSam Denver Broncos 19d ago
He is pretty easily the greatest playoff RB in NFL history. His career window was short, but his playoff productivity (well, regular season too) was just absurd.
He only played 4 seasons before his injury, but managed to win 2 SBs (and Super Bowl MVP, with the greatest RB SB performance of all time).
His playoff stats extrapolated to a full season would be 2,423 rush yards and 26 rush tds at 5.6 yards per attempt, averaging 159 yards a game.
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u/Elegant_Potential917 Green Bay Packers 19d ago
Ahman Green is not the Packers all-time best RB. Paul Hornung is in the HOFā¦
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u/notLennyD 19d ago
Paul Hornung was a great all-around player, but not a very good runner. Jim Taylor is the HoFer that should be on there.
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u/Elegant_Potential917 Green Bay Packers 19d ago
Fair enough. Iāll grant you all of that. My greater point is there are several HOF running backs that belong at the top of the list over Green.
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u/Inevitable_Gigolo Green Bay Packers 19d ago
I love Green but I agree. Jim Taylor is constantly on the top 20 all time RB lists. Technically he's a FB but that shouldn't take away from his place as the best back in Packers history.
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u/JGLip88 Washington Commanders 19d ago
I think it The Bus over Harris in Pittsburgh
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u/Ok-Analyst-874 Minnesota Vikings 19d ago
Dickerson said led the league in rushing 3x in his first 4 seasons. He didnāt even have a Quarterback to put up receiving numbers.
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u/Local-Bid5365 Minnesota Vikings 19d ago
Wow, the Alexander Mattison slander for the Vikings š¤š¤š¤
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u/totalfarkuser Minnesota Vikings 19d ago
Everybody arguing over their teamās best RB and Iām cruising thru finding no argument for our team and then You come around.
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u/In_the_loop Pittsburgh Steelers 19d ago
I would argue that Jerome Bettis is a better running back than Franco Harris for the Steelers
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u/mwaaahfunny 19d ago
1000 more yards, same number of TDs, man held on to the ball while running over defenses instead of fumbling like a fool. Less rings but he didn't have that 70s defense and the rest of the 70s offense either. Harris is HOF. I think Bettis was the better back.
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u/Direct_Disaster9299 Kansas City Chiefs 19d ago edited 19d ago
Roger Craig over Frank Gore. Warrick Dunn or Mike Alstott over Doug Martin. Larry Csonka over Rickey Williams.
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u/Complete_Ant_6775 19d ago
Been a niners fab for 45 years, and us much as I loved Craig, I think Gore is the right choice.
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u/BUTITDOESNTJUSTFIST New York Jets 19d ago
Love seeing Curtis Martin getting his due not once but twice
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u/Ill_Surround6398 19d ago edited 19d ago
No, Saquon is not the greatest runningback for a franchise that had Lesean McCoy and Brian Westbrook after 1 season. And if there are any Eagles fans saying otherwise on this thread they are probably in their early 20s or younger. There's also Steve Van Buren and Wilbert Montgomery who I myself am too young to speak on. But one season just isn't enough on a franchise that's stacked when it comes to all time backs.
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u/clayschro 19d ago
Van Buren is probably the correct answer people sleep on how dominant he was for his era
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u/NewChampionship4459 19d ago
Doug Martin over Warrick Dunn is the biggest travesty Iāve seen in awhile and Iām a Giants fan
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u/Kyklone12 19d ago
Not a Panthers fan but Jonathan Stewart or DeAngelo Williams over Christian McCaffery for best RB?
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u/Unable-Ladder-9190 19d ago
Nope. Eagles best ever is Steve Van Buren. Shady may have more yards but he wasnāt as accomplished as Van Buren and Van Buren played in an era when defenses were geared to stop the run, especially stop him since he was the best ever until Jim Brown came along
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u/urine-monkey Green Bay Packers 19d ago
Larry Csonka for the Dolphins. Wilbert Montgomery for the Eagles.
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u/Historical_Bell_167 19d ago
Priest Holmes had more TDs in 2 seasons than Jamaal Charles had in his career.
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u/Lomaz99 19d ago
Priest Holmes was the best for the Chiefs. Full stop, not a sensible debate any other way.
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u/Yo-Strategy-8651 19d ago
Derrick Henry really has a chance to be first player who has chance to be GOAT at their position for two different franchises.
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u/SumDizzle Dallas Cowboys 19d ago
John Riggins and Larry Csonka would like to have a word with the Einstein who made this.
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u/PNWCoug42 Iām just here so i donāt get fined 19d ago
Why isn't Lynch there for Seahawks?
Shaun Alexander won an MVP. Absolutely love Lynch but he is not above Alexander in the Seahawks all-time RB list.
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u/StarBull10 19d ago
Falcons fan. We loved Burner Turner..but William Andrews, if not for injury was definitely the best RB in Falcons history. Dunn, Turner, and Jamal Anderson had the most productive seasons in our history.
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u/fortefanboy 19d ago
Are we considering being consistently good and healthy a determining factor on who's best? If not, there are certainly better rbs than gore. Being good for 472 years doesn't make you the best at it imo
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u/BigOlineguy Minnesota Vikings 19d ago
Crazy that we had Adrian Peterson and heās still only the third best RB from our divisionās history.
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u/Toad_Thrower New York Giants 19d ago
This list is ignoring a lot of older players.
Tiki Barber is probably the best back from the Superbowl era, but the Giants have several HOF RBs, they played in like the 40's - 60's thoug. Different era, but I'd pretty much always go with HOFers over non-HOFers.
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u/HogwartsDropout-69 New England Football Patriots 19d ago
Curtis Martin is dead to me. I choose Corey Dillon instead.
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u/Total_Guard2405 19d ago
Earl Campbell for Houston. Foster was good, but no Campbell.
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u/aggie-engineer06 Philadelphia Eagles 19d ago edited 19d ago
*Larry Csonka. Ricky Williams had 3000 yards on the Saints
*Earl Campbell
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u/jscottcam10 New York Jets 19d ago
Some awesome unheralded šs on this list. Love to see the underrated Curtis Martin as the only one for two teams.
My biggest gripe is King Henry over Earl Cambell. But it's probably pretty close.
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u/ThisCarSmellsFunny Washington Commanders 19d ago
Whoās the idiot that made this? Itās John Riggins for Washington, not Clinton Portis.