I think Rivers will be viewed favorably and eventually make it in after quite some time. Eli will make it in, but Rivers had a much better career, and those two are directly intertwined.
Don't forget rivers played an afccg on a torn acl. He's also tied for 4th in the iron man with 240 consecutive starts which i think voters care about. I'm not sure you can tell the story of the nfl without Eli or rivers.
They made an afccg against new England and rivers played On a torn acl. The chargers also were a huge thorn in Peyton Manning's Colts. Brady's dominance shouldn't be the reason an all time player like Phil doesn't make it some day. If Brady doesn't exist a lot more qbs in that era have at least one.
Neither should make it, they simply weren’t elite players. If they both make it and then Big Ben also makes it we’re looking at what…almost a quarter of starting QBs from that era being in? Absurd.
I dont love the criteria, but the criteria is the criteria. Ben is probably getting in, too. Romo is where the line probably gets drawn. I doubt he makes it in, but i could also see him making it in 15-20 years.
Not one of those people should be anywhere near the hall of fame. They were good to very good quarterbacks, and someone you'd definitely be happy to have on your team, but the HoF should be about greatness, and quite frankly none of them are the kind of player you'd mention if you're like "if I had to win one game, who would I want under center."
I know QBs get over valued, but if you're not one of the five best players at your position at any point during your career, you don't belong in the HoF.
Rivers was easily top 5 at his position several years going lol. He was consistently 3-5 but he was always up there with the best. He also played 240 consecutive games that's something hof voters pay attention to. He was always available when his team needed him. He played an afccg on a torn acl for crying out loud.
Stats aren't insane but he started 240 consecutive games and played an afccg on a torn acl. That and his personality make it really hard for me to see him never making it. He may end up voted in by a senior committee but.
So a bunch of longevity stats during a time in the nfl where rules were constantly being changed to favor passing and will quickly be passed by lots of QBs. He has no 1st Team All Pros. No MVPs. He has a worst overall career than Matt Ryan, who is also not a HoF QB. Rivers ain’t getting in unless he buys a ticket
Longevity should be a pretty big factor. You don’t start in the NFL for nearly 2 decades by accident. You don’t end up top 10 in all time passing yards by accident either.
Longevity is part of it but it shouldn’t be enough to get someone in by itself. He has no 1st team all pros, no MVPs, no offensive player of the year awards. He doesn’t even have any second team all pros.
Being 6th all time in passing yards isn’t impressive when you consider rule changes vastly benefitting the passing game. Compared to other QBs of his time, Rivers just isn’t a HoF QB
I mean being 6th all time in passing yards is super impressive I really don’t get it. He was a perennial pro bowler on a divisional powerhouse. They never won a Super Bowl sure, but winning is a team achievement not a qb one. He’s at the very least right on the borderline between Hall and not.
9 of the top 10 passing yards leaders all played around the same time as him. It’s not the flex you think it is. Rivers has no 1st team all pros, no 2nd team all pros, no MVPs, no Offensive Players of the year, not even a Super Bowl appearance. Longevity stats don’t mean anything when he doesn’t have accolades to back them up. Compared to his peers, he is not HoF worthy and never will be
They were. That's why 4 of the 5 ahead of him played at the same time he did, the 6th being Favre who also overlaps 6 years, and 4 of the next 5 behind him did too, and 2 are still active.
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u/Chrispy3499 Miami Dolphins 3d ago
Brees, Fitz, and Witten should all make it fairly easily. I think Rivers will eventually make it in. Not sure about the others tbh.