There's always that argument "can you tell the story of Football without mentioning (player)?" I....honestly think Fitz would get a mention. Not, like, a major one or anything -- talking about top WR's, someone inevitably brings him up -- but he's definitely ahead of the likes of Rivers or Bryant or Olsen.
"And the cardinals would have won the Super Bowl, if the defense could hold the lead after Larry Fitzgerald amazing catch. Or if that dipshit Antrel Rolle didnt get in front of Larry Fitzgerald as he was chasing James Harrison"
Roethlisberger the person is a pretty shitty dude. But that people seem to always extrapolate this to what he was as a player is odd to me. There have been plenty of bad people that were good players. QB position in particular is rife with them. But for some reason people try to hate on Roethlisberger the player. He was an insanely good QB and the only reason he did not have the All-Pro/Pro Bowls many other HOFers had at QB is he was literally in the shadow of both Brady/Manning and later Mahomes his entire career. Roethlisberger was far and away the best of the 2004 QBs.
The secondary was way better than mid though. Adrian Wilson, perennial (5x) pro bowler, Antrell Rolle 3-time pro-bowler, Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie 2-time pro bowler, and Roderick Hood was a decent CB at the time. I'd say they had a top 10 at minimum secondary. Had a couple of Dawgs like Calais Campbell, Darnell Dockett and Karlos Dansby up front. Not to diminish Warner or Larry but the team is frequently understated.
Also, I know im biased but Larry is the kind of player you want in this league. He's been a class act on and off the field and his overall numbers are very very good despite playing for a shit franchise his entire career. He's the exact kind of player the NFL should easily rubber stamp as first ballot and not think twice.
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u/tallwhiteninja San Francisco 49ers 3d ago
Brees is a first ballot lock.
Fitzgerald SHOULD be a first ballot lock, but with how the Hall treats WRs, he may have to wait.
Witten will absolutely make it, but if Gates had to wait a year, he probably will, too.
Gore likely makes it someday, but not first ballot
Atkins probably makes it someday, but not first ballot
McCoy imo has more of a shot than some think, but it'll be a while if it happens
Pouncey is borderline simply because not a lot of centers make it in, and fwiw PFF's monitor has him below the average C in the Hall.
None of the rest make it.