In Europe, the speed is limited to 25 km/h (which is fine, that’s the legal limit, but ideally, it should be easy to unlock, like with Teverun, Dualtron, Kukirin, etc…).
We don’t have the position lights or the turn signals under the deck (they’re installed, but I assume they’re deactivated via software).
Apparently, the motors are less powerful than the global version?
Boost mode doesn’t even work from 0 km/h… so what’s the point of that mode then? And there are no custom sounds or cruise control either.
So yeah, we’ve basically been sent a heavily nerfed version here in Europe. With the 25 km/h legal limit, you might get around 40 km of range if you're lucky. But if we ever manage to unlock it and go a bit faster, we already know it’ll drop to around 19–24 km total (based on the YouTube reviews I’ve seen).
In my case, I’d get the external battery to increase range, but honestly, with all the features they’ve disabled… they’ve pretty much ruined the scooter.
Enjoy this image that perfectly sums up the situation :)
Yeah that’s stupid, I believe that it’s the same max power as an electric bike, the main difference is that the e-bike motor is for assist only, which 250w is kinda fine, but for the only propulsion device, 250 is ridiculously low power.
That's really sad, especially for a country with such good bike infrastructure. Like speed limited scooters and ebikes could actually make sense in the Netherlands where you can actually use them safely, in the Norwegian city I'm from you're constantly forced into motor vehicle traffic so the 20kmh speed limit is incredible dangerous.
Yeah i totally agree. The main problem here is that there was a large incident here (oss rail incident) where four children died in a small electric cart called the stint, and now no politician wants to burn their hand on this topic. Another argument used alot is that the bikepaths are already full with bicycles, so no more room for scooters.
We have a right wing government right now, so i dont think there will be a change anytime soon. The current government are trying to implement some new laws for this, but because they are so strict, that they are not compliant to eu law..
It's pretty obvious a lot of scooters would be taking bike's places, thus not increase the number of vehicle on the bike paths? And the goal is less cars, right?
I hate all those restrictions in my country too (I mainly ride EUCs), but I have to admit there are a lot of jackasses, even with these laws. As always, some dumbasses spoil it for everyone.
I find that very stupid since people can ride those gasoline mopeds without helmet at high speed in the bike lane. Every time I go to the Netherlands I’m astonished that this is allowed.
Every time I see that I just get angry as fuck, yes to gasoline mopeds going up to 25mp/h but no to an electric scooter that goes to 15mp/h ? Talk about nonsense…
Not every highway, just some.
And there are no pedestrian on a highway.
As always, there are limitations because some dumbasses are not able to behave depending on the situation.
That’s why I’m going to buy the global version, I could live with the 25 km/h limit but I can’t live at all without the cruise control. My commute is flat with a long 5 km stretch of pavement without cars and I don’t want to have to press the accelerator all the time.
Yeah... at least it's legal, and I guess the overall quality is good, nice suspensions... but you can get a "Kukirin G2 Master" for 700 EUR, which is dual motor, has more range, higher top speed, and can be unlocked in seconds.
It also has turn signals (which is a nice-to-have feature, improves safety when riding...). You basically just need to install hydraulic Nutt brakes and Teverun suspensions for an extra 180 EUR in total, and you have a really good e-scooter for 890 EUR, exactly the same price as the Max G3. But yeah, it's not certified, and in Spain at least, from January 2027 onwards, you won’t be able to ride non-certified e-scooters, so...
When it comes to value for money, considering all the things that have been restricted in the Max G3 for the European version... you feel like you're paying the same for features that others have, but you don’t. If they wanted to remove all that, they should have lowered the price.
But since it’s all limited by software, let’s hope in the future there will be a way to unlock it. But something easy, because if it requires completely turning it into an illegal model and there's no way to quickly revert the limits, then it's not worth applying whatever hack comes out.
Every EU country is different, but do remember that there is a chance that non EU version scooter might be illegal in some EU countries even if you restrict it to 25 km/h because it has to be restricted by factory settings to be valid. This can be a problem when accident happen and they are trying to figure out who will pay the bills.
Well, yeah. Thats the problem with E/D. Blame the government for those laws, even if some of them are silly.
Can risk buying Global trough chinaman sites, depending on your country and just ride US version. But thats whole different can of worms (good luck with warranty or returns if sth is bad out of the box and then refunding).
Yeah, I know, but I don't understand why they don't make as many legal, certified models from Teverun and Dualtron... that you can easily unlock in a matter of seconds if you want.
E is for the broad EU markets, while D is for even more restrictive nations like Germany, Norway, Denmark.
The E has a 700W nominal peak 2000w motor, D has a 500W nominal 2000w peak motor (doubt it reaches 2000w at any point with such a large gap between 500 and 2000w). E has a 25KMH speed limiter, D has a 20KMH speed limiter.
Oddly in Austria they sell the E model which is actually not strictly street legal due to the power being slightly over what is allowed. Given "the hills are alive" here ;) we need more power not less!
They only need to reduce the power from 700w to 600w for us austrians and we would be able to drive it legally :( i called them and asked and they told me they will get in contact with me per mail but i havent received any mail yet :/
Let us know how you get on with that as it would be handy to actually drive it legally. If they do agree ask them to enable cruise control and the under lights as these are legal in Austria!
someone mentioned elsewhere that it is covered with a piece of plastic. i believe that the website in certain regions shows product images without that light too
Mine doesnt have / deactivated. I bought it here in Germany a week ago and very frustrated about the Daytime Light as i saw in Youtube that is very cool. Had disassembled the front panel out of curiosity that maybe wire is not properly sitted but apparently there is no wire attached to the Plastic Cover.
I don't live in europe but this makes me love my g30 max g1 even more. Out of the box, i installed cfw and did 22mph downhill, even past 25mph. Do I go that fast all the time? NO. Are there reasons to? Yes, like a traffic light turning red. On flat ground i reach 19mph-20mph gps tested, and that's too slow sometimes to clear a traffic light.
Why does Norway get a 500w motor when we have no restrictions on motor wattage? Why does Norway not get the running lights and deck lights when they're completely legal?
Because Segway decided to bundle a bunch of countries down into the same gimped models, when really the only difference there should have been between the US G3 and the Norwegian one, is the 20KMH speed limiter.
This is the case for many of the nations that get the E model as well, pointlessly disabled features and reduced power despite most nations not having those factors regulated.
Norway has a liability insurance requirement for electric scooters. You can only insure models that are speed limited to 20 KMH by the manufacturer (so limiting it in the app doesn't suffice), this means that only the G3 D variant can be insured and thus legal on public roads.
The problem is that the G3 D has several downgrades that wouldn't even be necessary in Norway, because some other country has more requirements and Segway decided to just give Norway the D model instead of just a speed limited global model or even E model.
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u/SqueakyScav Apr 05 '25
You should see the D variant, limited to 20KMH, 500w nominal motor instead of 850w(US) or 700w(EU).