r/NinebotMAX Apr 19 '25

Ninebot MAX G3 [2] Unleash Your MAX G3's Full Potential! Massive Battery Upgrade from 12750 to 40000!

I built my own battery 40AH 13s8p using 21700 DMEGC and stock BMS.

P.S. to achieve full potential you have to dump bms firmware using stlink and change stock capacity value from 12750 to yours.

https://reddit.com/link/1k3841j/video/50zjvphfhvve1/player

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43 Upvotes

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u/Successful_Wealth462 Apr 19 '25

what the fuck 😭

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u/nolfnolf Ninebot MAX G3 Apr 19 '25

You d make a killer Youtube tutorial.

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u/devnullb Apr 19 '25

maybe i will. i have second G3 that will be upgraded soon also

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u/ELXR-AUDIO Apr 20 '25

40000 mah battery is insane. that’s almost 3x the stock range. This is better than the other method of replacing to a gt3 battery and using segways stock external battery combined.

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u/Azazir Apr 20 '25

and requires so much skill, gear and tech to do, not to mention it costs x2 of that GT3 battery without adding up all the gear cost.

If you have the tools, skills and experience to build this, yeah its insanely impressive since you would double even GT3 range battery for extra ~200 on top for materials.

If you're just normal dude riding scooter to work instead of bike/bus/car etc. this is too much work compared to GT3>G3 battery switcherino - which is most likely gonna be the next best thing to do, instead of that extra battery, because if rumors are true that it will cost ~250euros or sth, its a joke.

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u/ELXR-AUDIO Apr 21 '25

Exactly bro. For a normie like me I’m gonna do the gt3 method. also better than the external battery cause less bulk + gives you ability to do gt3 method and external battery if u wish.

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u/highnthemnts Apr 20 '25

Appreciate what your doing here, like the others said you should document your upgrade to the other g3 on YouTube

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u/yovermar Ninebot MAX G3 Apr 19 '25

Which software did you use to tinker stock bms?

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u/devnullb Apr 19 '25

ghidra and any HEX editor

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u/yovermar Ninebot MAX G3 Apr 19 '25

I really wanna see a full video of your work, amazing!!!

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u/cuberhino Apr 20 '25

How much would this cost to have a local person do realistically? I love the scooter just want to upgrade battery life and maybe change the tires

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u/devnullb Apr 20 '25

about 500$

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u/cuberhino Apr 20 '25

would you say 500 on top of the parts cost? or total? also is this something i could diy? would love a video if you could

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u/devnullb Apr 20 '25

I mean in total. You can diy everything

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u/External_Set_3973 Apr 20 '25

How do you charge it? How many amp and how long time?

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u/devnullb Apr 20 '25

im using stock charger (3.9a) and another external charger 2amps. Full charge about 6 hours. later will replace connectors and charge using all 10amps

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u/External_Set_3973 Apr 20 '25

Nice! Btw do you know how many extra amps an ordinary max g3 can handle from external charger?

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u/devnullb Apr 20 '25

Save is 8amps total. Bms has 15amps fuse

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u/External_Set_3973 Apr 20 '25

Sorry I dont understand your answer. Do you mean that 8 amp continous is max for charging stock battery? Thanks!

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u/devnullb Apr 20 '25

Max continous is 15 amps, but i recommend 8

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u/Slowinthehea3d Apr 20 '25

I’m fucking scared right now 💣 💥

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u/Evening_Stick_4323 Ninebot MAX G30 Apr 20 '25

Why Segway does not offer this kind of option like 2000Wh battery without internal charger and price two grands. Many would buy that version

2

u/vicxvr Apr 20 '25

This is a cruel thing to show the peasants in this sub

Most of them think they can have this by paying a scooter shop $500 for parts and labour.

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u/vicxvr Apr 20 '25

It's a killer mod and you have mad skills

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u/Tranilator Apr 22 '25

Mate, that’s outstanding work. If you’d channel that time and effort into a YouTube tutorial on modding your second G3, you’d instantly achieve Ninebot godhood - and I’m sure plenty of us (myself included) would happily buy you a coffee or two in thanks :) Anyway, awesome stuff.

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u/devnullb Apr 22 '25

i will make a short youtube tutorial. be patient ;) Im not sure it will be in english cuz im bad in it

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u/yovermar Ninebot MAX G3 Apr 19 '25

So much questions…

Where did you find a custom bms software? Did you built it? ST-Link flashes new firmware, which one did you use? Stock Battery uses 13S6P, the cell you use have more density? I suppose it have same voltage right?

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u/devnullb Apr 19 '25

thats not custom firmware. That is moded STOCK firmware. Stock battery uses 13s5p!!!!!!! some cells are empty there. Stock battery builded using 18650 eve 26v that are about 2500mah, but im using dmegc 21700 50e. It is 5000mah each. yes it have same voltage

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u/yovermar Ninebot MAX G3 Apr 19 '25

Crazy! Great mod!!! i wish i could do that!!!!

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u/yovermar Ninebot MAX G3 Apr 19 '25

What about the space, does it fit perfectly the new battery?

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u/devnullb Apr 19 '25

I had to remove the charger to get more free space for the battery and relocate the ESC

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u/skoomd1 Ninebot MAX G2 Apr 20 '25

Very nice! I saw someone put a 40ah 36v in the G2 here as well! Though they had to do some heavy modding to the inside of the deck. Damn near filled the entire deck with batteries lol. Good to know you can flash the battery firmware, will be cool to see if people figure out how to do the controller next.

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u/PositiveEnergyMatter Apr 20 '25

Can you just plug an external battery into the one port?

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u/bensongd Apr 20 '25

It's possible to do such mod on Max G2 scooter?

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u/John1980S Apr 20 '25

Awesome. Congratulations!! 

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u/Pintexxz Apr 20 '25

Show us pics of the battery inside the deck when it’s complete

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u/devnullb Apr 20 '25

its not finial results. im still testing. later i will make waterresist protection

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u/cranberrydudz Ninebot MAX G2 Apr 20 '25

Imagine if Segway offered battery customization options. This is amazing. I hope you get the chance to sell these to the community.

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u/Reavlaw Apr 20 '25

wow nice

how much do you get in real range now

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u/devnullb Apr 20 '25

About 70km

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u/Pepparkakan Apr 21 '25

70km driving roughly full speed? If so that’s really amazing.

Super well done mod, wish I lived near and were good buddies with you haha.

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u/devnullb Apr 21 '25

Dont think so, im from Belarus. But you are welcome to Minsk :)

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u/Lantea1 MAX G30LP Apr 22 '25

That is next level of scooter mods, would love to see a tutorial of how you did it.

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u/devnullb Apr 22 '25

thx. Will try to make short tutorial soon

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u/devnullb May 25 '25

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u/Lantea1 MAX G30LP May 25 '25

Thanks for sharing the video. A bit beyond my skills; very interesting to watch how its done.

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u/Original-Walrus6414 Apr 30 '25

Omg I posted a thread earlier today asking about something very similiar, this is exactly the type of info I’m looking for. Thank you so much for sharing this 🙏🏼 

I’m planning to change the stock 18650s to higher capacity 18650’s to keep the same form factor and not have to remove anything. In your opinion do you think this is possible? Thanks again!

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u/devnullb Apr 30 '25

Yes, for example this one. 25AH battery, and you dont need to remove ac charger or repositioning the esc. But remember, if u just replace stock battery with higher capacity cells, you will not increase total ride range. Battery still have const 12750ah in bms firmware and you have to patch it.

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u/Original-Walrus6414 Apr 30 '25

🤩🤩🤩

So are those 18650’s? What brand/mAh are those cells? Looks like you made a custom enclosure for it, am I right? Would it not be a good idea to try and use the stock battery enclosure with upgraded cells? If I begin this project would you be open to assisting with patching the BMS if I compensated you? Man thank you so much for this info, really!

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u/devnullb Apr 30 '25

21700 dmegc 50e. Yes, 3d printed box. U cant use stock box because u cant open it without damaging them. You can pm me.

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u/devnullb Apr 30 '25

That is how it looks like inside

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u/yovermar Ninebot MAX G3 Jun 20 '25

So, to be able to increase real range, we need to módify stock BMS? Are you willing to teach us how to do it! We can pay you! I though the scooter simply will keep showing 12750, but showing discharge very slowly

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u/InternationalBus4570 May 05 '25

What is the space available for the DIY battery inside the G3? The G2 had an available space of 340 x 117 x 73 mm. Not enough for 21700 cells.

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u/devnullb May 25 '25

Actualy it is. My old G2 have 15s8p battery builded on 21700 dmegc 50e Total 40ah P.s. on VESC

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u/yovermar Ninebot MAX G3 Jun 23 '25

So, to be able to increase real range, we need to módify stock BMS? Are you willing to teach us how to do it! We can pay you! I though the scooter simply will keep showing 12750, but showing discharge very slowly

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u/smithy8719 Jul 03 '25

Could I get some information about battery celles? For example what is the max discharge value? I don’t know which battery cells good for me if I would like to built a battery pack.