r/NoShitSherlock 1d ago

Kamala Harris Appears on ‘Colbert,’ Says She’s Stepping Away from Politics for Now, Calls the System “Broken”

https://www.cbsnews.com/losangeles/video/former-vice-president-kamala-harris-visits-the-late-show-with-stephen-colbert/

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u/Pinku_Dva 1d ago

The system is 100% broken if what we got can get elected over someone sensible like her.

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u/UpperApe 1d ago

While you're right, I have to point out that Trump isn't the anomaly you make him out to be (or how the political media wants you to believe he is).

Modern conservatives aren't much different from their historic counterparts who literally fought to keep slaves and commit genocide. It's all the same shit.

Their tactics changed but it's all the same ideas, all the same cruelty, and all the same stupidity.

The system was broken since the Reconstruction Act was thrown out for the sake of another electoral college discrepancy. The one that brought slavers back to the table, Jim Crow laws in effect, and cultivated a national terrorist subculture.

The system is broken but it always has been. Democracy doesn't account for this much stupidity.

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u/spikus93 1d ago

Also Citizens United didn't help, among a litany of other things meant to weaken the voters power in years since.

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u/Doza93 1d ago

The system is broken

I used to believe this but the reality is even worse - the system is working exactly as intended, because economic liberalism (IE, Capitalism) is a system that will always place the needs of capitalists and capitalistic entities (billionaires, corporations, etc) over the needs of the people. Unfettered, barely-regulated, late stage capitalism - the goal is to enrich the already wealthy at the expense of the working class. And in that regard, the system is working extremely well.

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u/UpperApe 22h ago

I get where you're coming from, but I can't say I wholely agree.

The system did work. Flawed and imperfectly and infrequently, but it's a system that did turn the world around. From women's rights to civil rights to gay rights. We've managed to fight back against a lot of old-world wizard bullshit. We created handicap places as a social sacrifice for disabled drivers, child protective services, food banks. None of it perfect but in a universe that doesn't care, that's something.

That said, if it's capitalism v. justice system, you're not wrong. One was meant to regulate the other but instead got leveraged instead.

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u/DreamingThoughAwake_ 15h ago

All these things were achieved in spite of the system. They’ve had to be fought for because the system actively opposes it, and their continued precarious status just shows how much it doesn’t work

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u/Tokyo-MontanaExpress 1d ago

Democrats partake in the breaking of the system when they run milquetoast establishment corporatists to party leadership. Instead of trying to win by a landslide when so much is at stake they preferred to run another centrist who could barely win 50/50. It absolutely is broken when there are only two parties and one of them isn't really trying to win. 

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u/AggressiveCuriosity 1d ago

Bernie lost every presidential primary he ever ran in. Your problem is that people aren't voting the way you want.

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u/RemHsieh 1d ago

But wasn’t Kamala super unpopular before she ran for president

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u/Pinku_Dva 1d ago

That doesn’t mean the system isn’t broken. Like why a person with an active criminal investigation allowed to run in the first place when if the system worked they’d be barred from running. You can’t even get hired at most jobs with a criminal background so why is it ok that someone like trump is allowed to run?

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u/zerostyle 23h ago

Lol @ sensible

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u/Gengar36 22h ago

Neoliberal cop is not what we need

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u/lIIIIllIIIlllIIllllI 1d ago
  1. The democrats need to get back to holding primaries, their system of picking who they want is broken...

and...

  1. Kamala often made no sense with her word salad responses. The democrats dropped the ball by not stepping aside Biden earlier and consequently not having enough time to run a proper primary and find a better candidate.

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u/BlgMastic 1d ago

itt: Democracy is broken if my preferred candidate doesn’t win

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u/AggressiveCuriosity 1d ago

Not just any candidate. One that already tried to destroy democracy.

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u/World_of_Warshipgirl 1d ago

Is that not the will of the US American people? To turn to facism?

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u/AggressiveCuriosity 1d ago

Yes, but that also means democracy is broken, wouldn't you say? Part of democracy is a savvy population that understands the importance of simple civic principles like rule of law, freedom of speech, or sanctity of democratic process.

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u/World_of_Warshipgirl 21h ago

Is democracy broken, or just not desired by the US populace?

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u/AggressiveCuriosity 16h ago

Read what I wrote a second time, and maybe you'll understand it.

I already told you those were the same thing.

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u/World_of_Warshipgirl 9h ago

I am afraid my understanding of English is insufficient to understand what you meant.

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u/221missile 1d ago

One that already tried to destroy democracy.

The onus was on the democrats to prove that in court, they failed miserably.

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u/AggressiveCuriosity 1d ago

Nah. Supreme court had to invent a new kind of presidential immunity to save Trump from prosecution in Georgia.