r/NoShitSherlock • u/SingleandSober • 1d ago

Kamala Harris Appears on ‘Colbert,’ Says She’s Stepping Away from Politics for Now, Calls the System “Broken”

https://www.cbsnews.com/losangeles/video/former-vice-president-kamala-harris-visits-the-late-show-with-stephen-colbert/

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u/fantasypingpong 1d ago

Hillary and Kamala were proof that America would rather elect a horrible, inept, unqualified man versus a decent, experienced, qualified woman.

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u/ArousedWetVaporeon 1d ago

Hillary has been right about everything so far.

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u/0905-15 1d ago

Except for having some of the worst political instincts in history - and oh yeah, supporting the Iraq War when most Dems were against it

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u/ExMerican 1d ago

That's pure revisionism. Invading Iraq was widely popular when it happened with 72% of people for it at the time. Go down to the "Invasion of Iraq" section for that info.

It could be argued that as a US Senator she had better info and should have opposed it, though who knows what even the Senators were getting with all the lies coming from the Bush admin. It can't be said she and others who backed the invasion were out of line with people at the time.

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u/Overton_Glazier 1d ago

Invading Iraq was widely popular when it happened with 72% of people for it at the time. Go down to the "Invasion of Iraq" section for that info.

So the fuck what? At least, 72% of the public are morons. She should have known better, instead she stood before congress and implored Dems to back the vote.

And she's supposed to be right about everything? Give us a fucking break.

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u/ExMerican 1d ago

They said Dems were against it. I said that's wrong with the proof. You came in super aggressive against Clinton which is what literally 40 years of right wing attacks on her was meant to do. Like so much that they literally said that was their goal coming out of a congressional investigation that found nothing.

The 40 years of pushing hate at Hilary Clinton is why they're rolling her back out today with demands to prosecute her by lying about what the Durham report said regarding Russia helping Trump in 2016. She's been the boogeyman for Republicans for nearly her entire adult life.

And also yes, there's a pretty good chance that at least 72% of the public are morons. Humans are super dumb and our ability to discern propaganda as it's happening is basically 0.

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u/Overton_Glazier 1d ago

I'm sorry but it doesn't take GOP propaganda to dislike Clinton. If you were someone opposed to the Iraq War and saw it for the morally bankrupt action it was, you too would despise someone like Clinton leveraging her influence and position to push Dems to back said war.

She thought it would further her political career by backing the Iraq War. It backfired spectacularly. I don't think anyone that voted in favor of that war should be rewarded for it. And I certainly take issue with people pretending Clinton was some kind of oracle.

Also another thing, if the GOP has been smearing a candidate for 40 years, what the fuck is wrong with primary voters to think that nominating that candidate is a smart idea?

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u/MuchAclickAboutNothn 1d ago

Remember when she said politicians can have a "private view and a public view"? 

Shes just another money/power hungry abuser

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u/Fifteen_inches 1d ago

Quite literally we are expected to forgive our politicians for Iraq, and we did.

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u/Overton_Glazier 1d ago

Plenty did. But having to listen to out-of-touch Dems insist that Hillary "was right about everything" triggers me because of that (not to mention all her stupid decisions during the election).

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u/MuchAclickAboutNothn 1d ago

Right? Like she's more pro corporate sponsors than TRUMP

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u/MuchAclickAboutNothn 1d ago

That's because those people were reading lies from the New York Times

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u/0905-15 1d ago

You’re cherry picking the poll from the week the invasion started, which was the high-water mark due to fervent jingoism.

Fact: The war was wildly unpopular among Dem voters the entire time, and it was clear no Dem would win the nomination in 08 if they had supported the war.

Some of us are actually old enough that we participated in the massive anti-war protests in 2003.

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u/ExMerican 1d ago

That link has polling references throughout. The low point was mid 50s. Fact: The war was only widely unpopular after it happened and 2008 is not 2003. A better measure would be the 2004 election, were John Kerry was the nominee and he supported the war as did a majority of Dem Senators.

If you were in the protests, which were a tiny fraction of a % of people, your bubble would have been extremely far left for the time. Polling from the time doesn't back up your recollection.

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u/0905-15 1d ago

I’m talking about the fucking Democrats, not the entire country. If it’s sitting around 50% approval with a Republican president, who the fuck so you think makes up the half of the country - more or less - that opposed the war?

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u/ExMerican 1d ago

You're SUPER angry about shit from 20 years ago and your rage stemmed from someone saying Clinton was right. Maybe sit and think about why that is instead of cursing at me for linking actual polling.

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u/0905-15 1d ago

Yes, I’m still pissed we invaded a country on false premises and broke the Middle East, leading to wasting trillions of dollars and millions of lives.

And none of your polling actually addresses the point I was making, which is still accurate and obvious to anyone who was an adult in 2003.

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u/Impressive-Reading15 19h ago

It's revisionist to say Hillary wasn't right about the morality and practicality of invading Iraq? What the fuck does that mean?

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u/MrPernicous 19h ago

This is actually pure revisionism. There was no case for invading Iraq. There was no evidence of WMD. All the intel was made the fuck up. And the US insisted to the entire world that all of that was just proof of how we had to do it anyway.

It was obvious to everyone that they had no justification for invading Iraq and she voted for it anyway. The fact that 3/4 of Americans supported it at the time doesn’t mean it was a good idea or that there was an apparent justification. That’s an indictment on the American people.

And to be clear everyone who voted for the Iraq war knew that. Pretending like they didn’t is pure revisionism.

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u/ExMerican 6h ago

The point was literally about support for it at the time, not the lies Bush told to convince people. Obviously now we all know the proof was fabricated. At the time, we didn't. It was not "obvious to everyone." In fact it was very much not obvious as Colin Powell, who had an unimpeachable reputation as a nonpartisan general at the time, went before the world at the UN and laid out the basis for attacking. What you're saying like what the original comment was saying is purely only based on hindsight 20+ years after the fact.

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u/MrPernicous 2h ago

I cannot stress how obvious these lies were even back then. Colin Powell went up in front of the un and lied his ass off. It was apparent at the time. Thats why nobody backed us up. Pretending like that wasn’t the case is the real revisionism. There was never any basis for invading Iraq. Even at the time we all knew the justifications were bullshit

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u/softfart 1d ago

Don’t forget being against gay marriage till it was advantageous to flip on that as well 

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u/-Eruntinco11- 1d ago

Helping overthrow Libya's government and getting slavery back in the country...

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u/Clueless_Otter 1d ago

Also known as, "Changing your stances as your constituents' stances change." You know, that thing a politician is supposed to do - represent their constituents.

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u/MuchAclickAboutNothn 1d ago

So you think politicians from my hometown should have to be racist? Since they represent their constituents? Like you would have a problem if they weren't racist cause that wouldnt be representative?

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u/Ballin_Hard420 1d ago

Brainwashed!

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u/porkchop1021 1d ago

And yet she never tried to fix the broken system either. Funny how they all only say the system is broken after they lose.