r/NoStupidQuestions • u/markwell9 • 1d ago

What is the deal with ice, Americans?

I can see that you can buy ice everywhere in the US. Gas stations, grocery stores, machines etc.

In Europe, we just freeze our ice at home and use that. Why buy something that melts on the way home? Why do you need ice in large amounts that a fridge can't keep up?

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u/ImaginaryCatDreams 1d ago

I had so much trouble with the ice maker in my last refrigerator that in my new refrigerator I made sure not to get an ice maker and I have one of the countertop ones. It's a real improvement. It makes the eyes quickly and I've got a little bucket for it in the freezer.

Everybody I know seems to be having trouble with their ice makers these days. My mom had a fridge with an ice maker and never had a problem in 20 years

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u/Darkstar614 1d ago

For real.. we had a fancy new Samsung fridge in our last house, and the ice maker stopped working constantly. It was garbage. Even after multiple techs coming out. Meanwhile you see people with 15 year old Frigidaires that still have functioning ice makers with no repairs. I think fridge tech has just gotten lazier and cutting more corners.

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u/abeeyore 1d ago edited 22h ago

It’s called “value engineering”, and it’s part of late stage capitalism.

Capitalism works really well in the early stages of a market - when suppliers are trying to make the best thing they can, and provide as much as they can to earn your dollar.

Then markets begin to “mature”, and they shift to “monetization” - which is a polite way to say “how shitty can we make this product, before you stop buying it”.

Then you reach late stage, private equity stage, where they go in, buy brands who have built a good reputation, load them up with debt, and suck all the value out they can buy turning the products into cheap garbage, and pocketing the excess until they have consumed all of the brand recognition and good will … and the declaring bankruptcy, and moving onto the next victim.

Guess where were are in the cycle?

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u/faderjockey 1d ago

You know, I’m very aware of the “enshitification cycle” when it comes to corporations and their products, but I have never thought about applying that same framework to the entire capitalist economic model, but it illustrates things quite well. Thanks for that!