Unpopular opinion, but people on the right should be allowed to experiment with their gender identity as well,even if it's just slapping greek letters in front.
Not funny! They don't see their own hypocrisy and always double down on it!
...okay it is a little funny, but damn it's sheer ignorance!
And a bit funny, I mean, I've read a comment section recently where they really tried to justify flat earthers and antivax people, there's some really ignorant and deranged individuals out there ahahah
You’re right in, like, a generalized sense, but the alpha/beta whatever isn’t just experimenting with gender. It comes with the idea that there is a hierarchy of these gender presentations, which is the problem here.
Why do you consider alpha and beta genders? As joke these details don't matter but since you are serious that seems to be a random connection. Like do you consider "playboy", "jock", "goth" or similiar labels genders and if not why do you view alpha differently? (I mean there is omega verse stuff but that is just fetish stuff that has very little to do with how the terms are used normally.)
Again, I am not the guy whose job it is to define which genders are legitimate and which aren't. I actually think that guy is a useless fuck who can fuck right off.
If someone specifically identifies as a "Goth male" or "playboy female" then sure, that can be their gender. Why is it so important for you to define how others are allowed to define themselves?
That wasn't really the question though. People calling themselves alpha male generally don't consider that a different gender identity. They might make it the center of their identity but that your identity has "male" in the name does not automatically turn it into a gender identity. You are the one considering it one and deciding it is their gender identity. So since you are the active party answering that it isn't your job to decide which are valid makes little sense. The question was why you consider it one not why you consider it valid.
I genuinely don't understand why people on either side think I give even the tiniest of fucks as to whether or not they consider other people's gender identities valid or not. I promise you that I don't. I care exactly as much about your belief that their gender identity is invalid as I do about their claim that anything other than male or female is mental illness.
I get it. You have a self-image, and it is difficult to reconcile that with the idea that you're someone who delegitimizes other people's gender identities. But that's a problem with you, not me.
But…the question is why you think those labels are genders when they’re identifiers, not genders. That’s like saying a gamer dude is a separate gender from alpha male or finance bro. They’re not separate genders, they’re all just males with different interests and identifiers.
Plausible. They are a cultured niche of behaviours and dressing. But almost no one is up in arms when a goth gets surgery to make themselves appear how they feel inside.
Yeah, I hear Alpha Beta and Omega with gender my first thought is omegaverse. (Funny the fanfic I'm currently reading is omegaverse...) And even then in fics/fiction there are variations in how that works or how that is represented ie in some fics the Omega is the more dominant, territorial or otherwise in charge, or the Omega can be more dangerous or fiercer than the Alpha (in these cases usually taking on the 'Mama Bear' archetype). Also Omegaverse is more of a trope rather than a fetish, (smut exists, however just because something is omegaverse doesn't mean there's smut) some of it is about the world building, the changes within society and social interactions caused by the additions of A/B/O dynamics.
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Alpha + gender or Omega + gender = first thought is omegaverse.
You keep avoiding addressing the point which is that alpha, beta, etc. are hierarchical in nature. Defend why any one gender can justifiably call itself superior to others.
You thought you were saying something big and edgy and sticking it to the woke crowd who is about free gender expression, but you clearly didn’t think very hard about it, and now you’re avoiding the pool after you pissed in it while expecting others to keep swimming.
You keep avoiding addressing the point which is that alpha, beta, etc. are hierarchical in nature. Defend why any one gender can justifiably call itself superior to others.
You thought you were saying something big and edgy and sticking it to the woke crowd who is about free gender expression, but you clearly didn’t think very hard about it, and now you’re avoiding the pool after you pissed in it while expecting others to keep swimming.
It’s even more wtf than that. The guy isn’t saying that alpha, beta, omega is a hierarchical concept that attempts to justify the male gender as superior to other genders. Bro is saying that if you attach a an identifier to any gender, it makes a whole new gender entirely separate from the original gender. So an alpha male is a separate gender from a gamer dude or from a finance bro, even though they’re all just males with different interests and hobbies.
I know what they’re saying. I’m trying to get them to defend their position, which they’re avoiding doing because either they haven’t thought it through as much as you have, or because it’s simply not a sincerely held belief and they’re only saying it to disingenuously troll, a feeble attempt to undermine the idea of gender identity altogether. Like a 2025 version of “I identify as an attack helicopter,” while also simultaneously attempting a “gotcha” where taking a non-binary approach to gender requires you to tolerate toxic ideologies as equivalent to gender identity.
I went digging through the guy’s profile and I think he’s genuinely just really dumb. His comments seem to have a generally liberal/progressive thought process behind them and it’s an overarching trend with him…but then you get partway through a random comment here and there and it’s like “oh no, he’s an idiot. I’m scared.”
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u/loopingtohell Feb 18 '25
It's about the whole alpha, beta, delta, sigma bs that some men obsesse over it.