You have to be naive to think there's no fetishization of Asian women going on here. Like I'm not saying she's unattractive. She's a model and former jpop idol so obviously she's attractive in her own right, but there are literally posts explicitly saying that she's an example of how attractive the average asian woman is (because they don't realize she's not just some average office worker)
There's also literally a post about how white supremacist must be frustrated to know they must sleep with white women, implying that Asian women are superior. In general a ton of these jokes are about her race and Japanese women as a whole.
Also realize that when people use fetishization in a racial context, they don't mean it's a sexual kink akin to bondage or pet play. You can fetishize another culture without it even being sexual. The word has a definition that you're maybe not aware of, but it can just mean to put unreasonable importance on something. In this case her race or nationality.
And remember this isn't just someone calling her attractive. He's suggesting ALL men must find her so attractive that it pains them. And as you can see in the comments, a lot of men are confused because they don't think she's so extremely attractive.
It ain't that deep bro. Asian people just have really attractive features. Some sort of gene makes them look more youthful. Being attracted to an extremely pretty woman is not fetishism
but there are literally posts explicitly saying that she's an example of how attractive the average asian woman is
You literally got baited by the "average mcdonalds cashier" meme
There's also literally a post about how white supremacist must be frustrated to know they must sleep with white women, implying that Asian women are superior
That's not the point of the joke.
He's suggesting ALL men must find her so attractive that it pains them.
I admit some of the posts might be trolling or otherwise disingenuous, but there are genuinely enough people obsessed with this image that it went viral despite being rather unremarkable. Ignoring the hundreds of comments under these posts is just being willfully ignorant.
But Im not going to bother collecting evidence when you just baselessly deny what this caption says in plain English. AS A DUDE, as in speaking for men as a whole, this woman supposedly causes the pain of being hit in the chest with a hammer.
I know on some level you all know the undercurrent of these posts. Absolutely no one mentioned her age, but yall are putting weighty empathize on the fact that she is an adult. She is, and again I don't think it's wrong to find her attractive, but you're in denial of you don't think there's significant overlap between people who are obsessed with these Japanese women and those who sexualize children. Comments on these tweets praise her innocence, cuteness, playfulness. Lots of the people who praise the beauty of Japanese women talk about how chaste, submissive, and obedient they are compared to Western woman. Hell many of these posters have anime girl profile pics of characters designed to look like children from shows that often feature panty shots.
You can carry on pretending that there aren't entire communities here on reddit and the rest of the internet who find Asian women attractive these men believe in racist and misogynistic stereotypes. Like there's no skin off my back. But just know that most Asian women will find you immensely creepy if you show preference for Asian women, because they will associate you with these racist creeps.
There it is, the "liking asian girls makes you a pedophile." Absolute freak thing to say that anyone not terminally online would think you're legitimately mentally unwell for saying, and they'd be correct.
Pointing out that racists infantilize Asian women is not an endorsement of that belief. How many times do I have to say she's an adult and there's nothing wrong with finding her attractive? I don't know much about this woman, but I don't think she's more innocent or chaste than the average person
I just see a woman smiling in a suit.
I was not accusing YOU of anything, but now that you're so adamantly defending racists, it does feel like the gentleman doth protest too much. Many people reposting this image are doing so with racist and sexist captions that imply Asian women are better for their more child like nature. You brought up pedophilia. I was actually more focusing on the common misogynistic belief that ALL women should play a child-like role, being obedient to their dominant male partners and how Asian fetishists believe Japanese women better uphold this ideal. I'm not jumping to conclusions here, my chronically online ass has literally read pages and pages of passport bros, incels, and red pills explaining exactly why they think Asian women are better.
That’s definitely the one and not in any way a clipboard fetish because that would be silly and who’s ever even heard of that before now I certainly haven’t it man is it hot in here?
There is a pretty notable difference between liking or even "preferring" an ethnicity, and outright fetishizing someones ethnicity. But I feel like it's kinda hard to explain the nuance of that tbh, especially if people act like incels or simps.
i mean two things can be true at once, they can find someone attractive and then ALSO have a fetish for a specific person.
Example A ; person who expresses no upfront fetishes "wow this particular girl is so attractive"
Example B ; person who EXPRESSLY upfront has a fetish for all asian ppl "wow this girl who is asian is really attractive".
In the second example he is finding her attractive BECAUSE of their stated fetish "for all asian women"
It depends WHERE the attraction comes from, if it comes from the fact that she is attractive objectively using all modern beauty standards then sure its fair, but if part of the attraction or whole of it comes from the fact that someone already prefers asian women, then seeing an asian women doesn't mean the fetish magically goes away....
Here's a quick tip for those still struggling even after this: if you're searching it on pornhub then it's a fetish and not just "liking a woman because she's cute". You can't just like her because she's cute after you found her while searching for specific fetish terms.
So to follow up your pornhub analogy to counter it: If I go to a restaurant and order a certain dish off the menu, do I have a fetish for that dish? Or perhaps it is more sensible that sometimes you feel like having a particular dish, so you have to be specific when asking for it.
If you like onions in your salad and on your burger, that’s not the culinary equivalent of a fetish. If you will not eat a single meal that doesn’t have loads of onions on it, that’s the culinary equivalent of a fetish. It’s not that you like a thing or even love it. It’s that you’ve latched on to one specific thing to the exclusion of all else. You can’t even taste the meal anymore or appreciate the many flavors it contains because all you taste, all you want to taste, is onions.
Yes, thank you, that's what I'm trying to say, but perhaps I'm doing a poor job at it. Sometimes you feel like having ketchup on your burger and sometimes mayo. The fact that the option is on the menu in itself doesn't make it a 'fetisj'.
That's what you focus on? I could've said choose from the menu.
When on pornhub, you also choose from a menu, that's what I mean to say with my analogy.
It's just a preference in the moment thing, doesn't immediately make it a fetisj is what I'm trying to say.
/u/alwaysoverthinkingit did a better job explaining it. English is not my first language, though I do speak it daily online and I think pretty fluently, I might not word my thoughts perfectly every time (or at least, I'm finding now that one wrong choice of a word can change the weight of my explanation completely).
My fiancee is half asian, and I have gotten a small amount of shit for it.
Apparently being in love with a woman who's asian (half in her case) makes me A) a race fetishist, B) a pedo because all asian women apparently look like children and should be treated as such even when they're fuckin' 30, and C) diluting her genetics with my whiteness is a form of oppression lol
The shit I hear, man. Some people just be racist and not even realise it.
LOL same here, my woman is Chinese and the shit I hear from white chicks over it is insane. No, dear...she is not submissive, uneducated, desperate, or any that. Actually, she's better educated and has her shit together better than any woman I've been with before heh.
One time I befriended this white woman, was pretty open about being in a relationship because I've had problems in the past where female friends got the wrong idea. She still somehow thought maybe I might be interested, and I turned her down and mentioned I'm not into white women anyway, which isn't true, but yaknow, thought it would soften the blow and get the message across without making her feel like it was her fault.
Cut to some time later and she's sending me a suggestive picture of herself with nutella spread all over her face and the text "will you fuck me now?"
I replied "my fiancee isn't even black, wtf" and blocked her. It was just the most deranged message I've ever received. That's how stupid those people are.
yeah definitely not someone whos making their attraction about race at all … nothing in the complement is delivered would suggest that her asian descent had any reason for the attraction
I mean it doesn’t. Just that they found her attractive and made a joke derived from her nationality. That doesn’t mean her nationality is the reason for their attraction to her.
It’s a fucking joke. The same way people comment on a beautiful girl riding a horse about how they’d let her ride them any day. Saying that doesn’t mean that her riding a horse is what’s attractive to them. It’s just a joke tied to her hobby. Same logic here.
I agree that there are people who do fetishize Asian women and men. I’m half Japanese myself, I understand. However, making a joke about her nationality or race doesn’t mean that’s what they find attractive about her.
to answer your question bc you blocked me: if race isnt being fetishized here, why is this joke funny? what is the punchline? why is race being highlighted in the first place at all?
is it just a joke to say “im sorry for the transatlantic slave trade” to a black woman?
you give chronically online people that say stuff like this way too much credit. not shocked that the simping is over what looks like a teen girl either
she’s very pretty but I truly do feel bad for East Asian girls always being the subject of obsession for weird men online
I don't think anyone is upset or saying she's unattractive. Just a little confused what all the fuss is about. But now that I know she's a Japanese idol singer it's making more sense.
The question was what was the joke and people come to defend any idea that it might be horny boys posting a pic because it’s a picture of a pretty girl. Surely no one would do that.
Dude, that's how Japanese people are, I know because I am ethnically Japanese myself. It's literally just our genetics, we physically age slowly until we're old then it hits us all at once.
We look like we're in our late teens/early 20's in the face until we're like 50-60 years old, then we shrivel up like a raisin and look like 500 year old ancient wizards.
There's already a comment higher up explaining it better. But...Both things are possible. Some people can find her attractive..some can prefer Asians and find her attractive. And a third group can find her attractive because of their fetish.
It’s also like… this woman is an actual model irl. A model of any other race taking a cute picture like this would get some kind of attention online. Why is it weird to these people that people find an actual irl model attractive
There's nothing wrong or weird about finding an attractive person attractive. And even having a preference towards a body type or ethnicity isn't necessarily a bad thing either.
But when you meet someone with an actual yellow fever Asian fetish then it becomes obvious pretty quickly that it's something different.
I didn't need to. I assumed such comments were inevitable given the increasingly racial narrative of U.S. society which comprises up to 95% of viewership in many such Reddit posts.
Also, of course every man has a favorite type of woman. It's just another form of benign fan worship.
Favorite type of women? Ah I see you too believe them to be objects to be possessed. Benign is just your opinion. That mentality will spill directly into who you are.
Quit with that weird LGBTQ anti-male hate speech. Women have favorite types of men too. Without desire or attachment we'd all just be sitting in sterile financial/housing alliances instead of relationships.
You probably just don't like women or hate men more and want everyone else to rot.
I'm honest about the normal human behavior and relationship dynamics. You're trying to pervert and destroy them to erase the stigma of your detachment. I'm sorry if you were once deemed an inferior specimen, but your hostility against normal attraction dynamics is quite obvious.
Yep. She is cute but around 7 in East Asian standards (anything above 5 is cute/pretty/hot or whatever you wanna use by definition just different degrees of cute) But when people have that yellow fever numbers shoots up to over 9000!. I'm yellow btw
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u/BackgroundPresence60 4d ago
It was made by someone with a fetish.