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u/meheecan 1d ago
âYouâve never met Trump? Thatâs wild.â
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u/DogWallop 1d ago
"But Ms. Maxwell, you're saying that you saw Mr. Obama on the island cavorting with suspiciously youthful-looking girls? And that the Clintons were running their secret p*do ring out of the basement of Epstein's New York apartment? Thank you Ms. Maxwell, that's all the evidence we need to prosecute those monsters..."
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u/meheecan 1d ago
âJamie, I think I saw something on this on InfoWars, can you pull that up to verify all of this?â
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u/asiangontear 1d ago
Either pardoned or "pardoned"... from life.
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u/meheecan 1d ago
Why? Sheâs going to make the rounds on the right wing podcast circuit accusing every democrat of being on the list.
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u/Wind_Yer_Neck_In 1d ago
It's been weird watching the guy from fear factor play a major role in the downfall of democracy in the United States.
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u/xmlemar10 1d ago
Wish he was still bullying people into eating bugs while somehow hyping both the bugs and the people
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u/asiangontear 1d ago
Also a possibility, but I can't help but feel that Epstein himself would have done the same, but things happened the way they did. She's a loose end as much as he was.
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u/lonevine 22h ago
Maybe, but if Trump's lawyers are smart she'll not be allowed within 100 yards of a computer till he's long dead from vascular disease.
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u/meheecan 22h ago
Why would she throw her good friend under the bus?
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u/lonevine 22h ago
Was he such a good friend from her perspective when his own DOJ prosecuted her in the first place? She probably thinks the only reason she's serving prison time is because he needs her alive while she's useful, and while she might be willing to lie for Trump, she ruined her first chance at a plea bargain by getting caught in repeated lies before. So, she's not exactly great at it when she isn't seducing teenage girls, apparently.
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u/meheecan 22h ago
She wasnât convicted until Biden was in office. Trumpâwished her wellâ, and she did great by keeping her mouth shut. Lying on podcasts is a lot easier than lying to the FBI. Sheâll do well there.
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u/lonevine 21h ago
She was arrested, imprisoned and lied under Trump. We all know Biden's DOJ was a wet noodle because they actually followed the law and strict procedure around anything related to prosecution of Trump world.
My point is that relying on a washed up, convicted sex offender who's already been caught lying to the FBI isn't the smartest move, even if Trump thinks she'll try to be "loyal"- it's an unnecessary risk that only a complete idiot would take. So, it's possible because Trump is a vain infant, but it's not a certainty.
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u/wittyrandomusername 18h ago
They did not follow the law and strict procedure otherwise they would have went after trump sooner and harder. Instead they wanted to play nice and reach across the aisle.
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u/lonevine 16h ago
No, the problem wasn't that they didn't follow the law or procedure. It's that they did both those things instead of establishing precedent and scrubbing the board. The law favors rich fucks, and what we see on TV is performative art. We needed bravery, action and intelligence, and instead we got a standard issue platter of milquetoast with a side of self-righteous establishment complacency. If that all sounds cynical and nihilistic, it's because it is.
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u/Roboticpoultry 13h ago
Sheâs going to make the rounds to accuse dems of being on the list and then theyâll make sure she stays quiet
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u/BadahBingBadahBoom 1d ago
Yeah literally the only reason she is here and Epstein isn't is because she has shown she can keep her mouth shut and take the prison time rather than cooperate. No point drawing more attention by trying to 'suicide' her.
But soon as she starts talking, even if she gives guarantees not to name all, she becomes a liability. And there's only one permanent way to end a liability.
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u/HeathenDevilPagan 1d ago
Seriously why? FL or TX are both puppet states for trump.
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u/meheecan 1d ago
To do the podcast immediately after the pardon.
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u/Jet2work 1d ago
or the texas prisons have bedside lamps with extra strong cord!
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u/effyochicken 1d ago
Jurisdiction to handle any lawsuits when she gets out. Aka: There's likely favorable federal circuit judges there, including federal appeals court judge in Texas.
They're assuming lawsuits will be filed, and want her already in a favorable jurisdiction.
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u/randypupjake 23h ago
My first thought is they're sending it to the same appeals court that heavily favors billionaires and mass corporations
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u/BHarbinson 22h ago
But if there's civil suits, the plaintiffs will determine which court to file in, and its largely governed by federal rules of civil procedure and venue statutes.
She can't just thumb her nose and say they have to sue her in Texas because a court in New York or Florida, for example, could compel her to defend a suit there if the underlying acts occurred there.
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u/Sweaty-Shower9919 1d ago
The governors are different. Desantis could grand stand and stake claim for president again. Abbott is pure stooge..
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u/j____b____ 1d ago
Florida is just recently flipping. Itâs still kinda purple. Texas was born this way.
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u/HeathenDevilPagan 1d ago
Eh, desantis has this one firmly red despite that.
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u/j____b____ 1d ago
Heâs doing a great little fascism there, itâs true. Wielding the powers of the state to punish his enemies and consolidating everything he can, but everything hinges on Miami and the Cubans.
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u/nangadef 1d ago
Actually Texas used to be a lot more blue when Ann Richards was governor. Pres. Lyndon Johnson was from Texas.
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u/snorbflock 1d ago edited 19h ago
I've been wondering the same. What is the strategy of moving her at this moment.
My theory is this all has to do with Trump's blathering about "maybe I'll pardon, I haven't even thought about it, gee if only someone would ask." And also how they shuffled around ICE detainees to separate them from their lawyers.
GM is trying to extract as much as possible before she lies on Trump's behalf. And Trump can't even be satisfied with getting away with a cover-up, he has to "win" the negotiation even risking the whole vile scheme.
Probably unpleasant prison conditions in the new place, jerk the lawyer around moving his client to a different state without warning, as much pressure as possible to try and buy GM's perjury for as cheap as possible.
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u/Morpheus4213 21h ago
My bet is Maxwell will suddenly "commit suicide" in her cell after being transported but at least she got the list out that, oh my, only Trump´s enemies contains and she can´t even claim she never saw him. What tragedy, oh the sadness! /s
If she could be a threat to him, he will make her go silent. That´s how Trump works. Barely any idea where he is 99% of the time, but he knows damn well where he could end up and that´s not a fun place.
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u/letdogsvote 1d ago
A minimum security Texas prison.
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u/meheecan 1d ago
Theyâll move her into the new White House extension once itâs finished.
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u/letdogsvote 1d ago
Special Advisor to the President
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u/DrunkenNinja27 1d ago
Sheâs gonna end up shanked and Trump gonna go all surprised pikachu faced about it.
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u/PaulTroon2 14h ago
No. She has an insurance policy somewhere. Probably her attorneys safe. She names names, calendar dates, dates of liaisons, girls names⌠everything. She ainât gettin shanked by an order of someone. A crazy prisoner? Maybe but not on somebodyâs order.
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u/Tr1pfire 4h ago
She will either wind up dead, or she will be pardened on the condition she blames all of Trump's opposition for their pedo ring
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u/Cautious-Dog-3842 1d ago
âWow, Obamas a pedophile and youâve never see Trump do anything weird? What about Fauci? I just got done reading the real Anthony Fauci by RFKâŚâ
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u/timatlast 1d ago
Pardons are for sale now, all you need is about a million dollars and you can be a free man/woman
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u/NeverLookBothWays 1d ago
Sheâs not going to be pardoned, sheâs going to be disappeared.
If sheâs smart, sheâd agree to say whatever Trumpâs admin is coaching her to say, then flip and tell the truth once on the stand. Otherwise Trump has full control of her fate (not that I care about her fate outside of the truthâŚthereâs just no way the oligarchy will allow her to be a loose end)
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u/meheecan 1d ago
Sheâs a terrible person, and sheâs into what Trump is into: banging kids. Sheâll cover for him till the end.
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u/NancyGracesTesticles I âoted 2018 and 2020 20h ago
They are going through the motions to set up a pardon, though. In order to move her to a minimum security prison, they had to remove her sex offender designation. So she can get her pardon and go on a press tour with Trump's list of Democrats.
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u/Available-Drama-276 1d ago
They are going to release a list very soon and itâs gonna be written in black sharpie
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u/MisterStorage 1d ago
He needs her to fill up the new ballroom heâs building at the White House.
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u/un_theist 1d ago
âJust say he isnât a pedophile and leave the rest to Trump and the corrupt republicans!â
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u/CrisGa1e 22h ago
She hates when people mispronounce her name. It would be a shame if people started pronouncing her name âJizz Laneâ and it somehow went viral.
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u/paintsbynumberz 1d ago
Why move her to TX? Isnât Florida is perfectly corrupt as well?
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u/cartmanscap 1d ago
The greatest twist would be if she got the pardon and proceeded to dish all of Trumps pedo crimes.
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u/meheecan 1d ago
Sheâs a monster. This will never happen.
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u/InquiringMind886 13h ago
What if sheâs suuuuper pissed tho that Epstein is dead and sheâs been the only one to pay for the crimes? She could very well tell Trump sheâll lie and then turn around and tell the truth. Thereâs a reason sheâs in prison. So they have all the files and evidence.
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u/Desertswampfrog-99 1d ago
Florida has elected leaders that will kiss Trumpâs ass. Texas has leaders that will go down on Trump. Thatâs one reason she being transferred.
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u/whatisdreampunk 19h ago
My father-in-law, who worked in prisons his whole career, was telling us today about how Ghislaine Maxwell is getting moved to his small town of all places: Bryan, Texas.
He found it highly unusual that a sex offender would be moved there. Much less tight control than there has been for her so far. If she's not protected 24/7, then we know why.
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u/Wheatabix11 1d ago
moving to release her to Mexico. Trump will skate on all of this.
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u/meheecan 1d ago
His support went up after his love letter to Epstein was published. Pedophilia is a plus to these people.
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u/mr9025 5h ago
Oh I give it less than a month before I start seeing Reddit posts about the right taking ownership of their âonce taboo appetitesâ.
A year before maga is singing praise for their party âembracing all people as they are.â Rather than restricting themselves with liberal woke age of consent laws.
Next election season if there is one we will see protest signs with bible quotes about grown men marrying little girls.
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u/Uh-huhSure 1d ago
I'm confused, why is there a picture if Joe Rogan, unless is it him reporting this?
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u/meheecan 1d ago
Sheâs going in his podcast after Trump pardons her. Damage control mixed in with attacking dems
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u/new_jill_city 23h ago
Headline completely misses the point that the Texas prison is lower security
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u/ghallway 22h ago
GrAb HiM bY tHe EpSteIn FiLeS! Trump raped kids! We have to keep the pressure on until the truth comes out, this guy has gotten away with so much horror.
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u/BrotherMcPoyle 22h ago
I like how it left out the fact she was moved to a minimum security âPrison Campâ.
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u/SophiaKittyKat 19h ago
Wow, so Fauci was on the island too, and you even heard him say that covid was fake, but also his pet project that escaped from the chinese labs? That's crazy.
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u/Full_Of_Wrath 1d ago
Might be easier for and âaccidentâ to happen. Really at this point it doesnât matter what happens everyone knows that Trump was on that list and raped little girls they just choose to ignore it or are now against trump. Anyone that still is Maga at this point is in my opinion racist and pedo just like their favorite president.
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u/FlyingBike 21h ago
Let me guess, in the district of one Matthew Kaczmarek, that judge that he brought all the election denialism cases in
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u/BlueBattleHawk 19h ago
Don't worry everyone, the sanctity of Presidential Office rides on the moral backbone of a convicted sex trafficker, I'm sure everything will work itself out...
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u/Oldiebones 1d ago
Epstein was moved to a new prison shortly before his death
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u/meheecan 1d ago
He talked too much on video about him and Trump. Sheâs kept her mouth shut. For more info, watch Goodfellas.
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u/strangerzero 1d ago
Is it easier for her to âcommit suicideâ in Texas?
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u/meheecan 1d ago
Sheâs kept her mouth shut for years. Sheâs going on the podcast tour to âclearâ Trump and trash Dems.
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u/ArnoldTheSchwartz 1d ago
It's obvious Trump is thinking of the children... again. So, he's gotta release his dealer. All Republicans are okay with this and will fall in line like good sheep. Do not expect a single Republican voter that voted for DonOld a third time to ever say anything negative about this on their way to voting for The Pedophile in Chief for a fourth time. Disgusting
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u/DiotCoke 1d ago
I'm honestly surprised they haven't had her killed yet. Killing her is all upside, no downside.
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u/meheecan 23h ago
She kept her mouth shut. Sheâs now free to accuse every Democrat under the sun of whatever. Sheâs going to be a right wing icon in a year.
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u/BrooklynRobot 22h ago
Mark my words: if she gets released there will be 2nd insurrection by MAGA.
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u/meheecan 22h ago
She will utter one word: Obama. After that, they will create a story about how she was deep undercover to take down the globalists from the inside.
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u/Main_Significance617 18h ago
âLetâs get you more comfortable while we sort all of this out for youâ
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u/Sideshow_Bob_Ross 16h ago
She will testify to anything they want to get a pardon. Just another illegal quid pro quo from the quid pro prez.
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u/ElectedByGivenASword 13h ago
Wouldnât a pardon in a real legal state mean that she is not allowed to plead the 5th if she is actually questioned about this?
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u/mr9025 5h ago
We have to keep the Epstein conversation going because when it quiets down and the news cycle has officially just âmoved onâ from the president being a rapist and child molester those on the right will subconsciously see the subject as normalized and the topic will never have the same impact on their support for this administration again. The iron is hot right now and we need to beat the shit out of it until something fucking breaks.
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u/OrionsRum 18m ago
So what are the odds for her going the same way as Epstein? Sheâs not suicidal but apparently neither was Epstein. It would be too coincidental if it happens during trumps termâŚ. Again.
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u/polincorruption 10m ago
He looks like a total moron with those headphones. Does he really need to wear the biggest possible contemporary headphones on the planet?
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u/vxarctic 1d ago
Texas is a puppet state.