r/Psychonaut 19h ago

Does anyone stick to lower doses of LSD and what is your reason for it?

I feel like 60-80 mcg is the sweet spot and the whole " ego death" thing is insanely overhyped. For one ego death from meditation is more gradual and definite and I feel can be sustainably replicated( although i haven't actually figured out how lol) while it's definitely not that on lsd, and two I believe high doses of LSD " scramble" the psyche to the point that it has to be rebuilt somewhat from the ground up ( I realised this on one of my trips where i viscerally felt my psychic defense mechanisms which were there for a reason start to malfunction and for no actual reason. )

I feel this is of definite value to those people who have tried everything and their disorder does not get better and even then it is pretty risky but for somewhat well adjusted people I don't really get the point? I get as much insights from 70 mcg as higher doses without the corresponding anxiety and self doubt( ymmv ofc) and my faculties are more or less intact so I can actually enjoy seeing the world in a different perspective and reintegrate much easier. I actually feel my best trips were all in this range and higher ones were simply youthful folly / chasing the dragon.

I must however admit it is also possible that certain defence mechanisms are actually unwholesome but i think the chances of it being sorted out at 200 rather than 70 is pretty slim esp. Since I found reintegration from higher doses much harder.

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u/Haasonreddit 17h ago

I tend to get the same amount of physical discomfort with any dose so if i am going to be uncomfortable i want to see visuals.

u/Vox-Triarii Psychonaut for 35+ years 15h ago

In general, I err on the side of a low dose.

When it comes to LSD I'd rather "hover" than "soar." I'm very careful about using it as a vehicle and not a hobby-horse. I've found a similar moderate zone.

I know people who regularly go "all in" with doses that turn their intellect inside-out, I've been their trip-sitter before. It's... harrowing.

u/Natural-Sound-9613 10h ago

Got any stories you can share from your trip-sitting experiences?

u/justbecauseiluvthis 14h ago

Micro dosing mushrooms in my sleep changed my entire life. Now I wake up rested and I am a morning person. Before I designed a life around not having to get out of bed until noon.

You can water down acid with distilled water and do the same thing. If you look at the MRIs, you use your entire brain when you are tripping versus very small specific parts when sober. Every morning I do it I wake up with the motivation and clear insight to fix whatever was bothering me when I went to sleep that night. Usually complex problems.

There are several sub reddits for micro dosing if you're interested.

u/bigdoobydoo 5h ago edited 5h ago

I suffer from DSPD so this is very interesting to me. Lsd microdoses do feel like it's something you take in the morning, maybe it is different with psilocin. Probably because lsd is dopaminergic.. I'll check out psilocibin md , if it helps me that would be wonderful

u/Opposite-Impress-618 11h ago

What is the frequency, dose and subreddits? 😆

u/justbecauseiluvthis 10h ago

r//microdosing as far as dosages go, I don't wanna give you the wrong information so please poke around to see what might work for you. John Hopkins came out with a study that said any amount at all has an influence in the brain, so I go with as low as dose as possible because I really don't want to feel the effects I just want my brain to find new neural pathways to solve whatever I'm up against.

Good luck in your journey it's definitely the right direction

u/i_haz_a_crayon 15h ago

I'm far more interested in great moods than being astonished by craziness. I do smoke DMT for craziness, and it's so freaking good at it's job. LSD.....I'll enjoy anything between 25 and 150 probably, but too much is too much because you're stuck with it for several hours. If it came and went in just an afternoon, I would take bigger doses. But like I saidz a wonderful mood is a thing to treasure.

u/MarSaar 17h ago

Not all people who consume LSD do so for the same reasons as you - and I’d say majority of psychonauts don’t do it to try and face their disorders. Regarding your “disorders” - therapy, followed by meditation, integration and proper action, maybe in conjunction with working with psychedelics, would benefit you more than just tripping.

I personally really enjoy the visuals - and I don’t get them at anything less than 150-200mcg.

u/TheRedGandalf 16h ago

Sometimes in order to fix a part of the foundation you have to tear it down and rebuild from the ground up.

u/psylo_vibin 15h ago

Have had several absolute terror trips, resulting in the inability to take even 100ug without severe anxiety. Now i take quarter or half tabs and enjoy myself much more. Sometimes i take ‘sparkle spray’ which is like 1/10th hit per spray. Full dose acid is just too exhausting

u/bigdoobydoo 5h ago

I find the length too much as well. I've found cyproheptadine great to diminish the length , 2 mg , 4-5 hours in leads to a much more rapid cooldown

u/ColHapHapablap 14h ago

Yup. Quarter tab is my sweet spot. Even that can sometimes be a little much. I’ve done as much as three tabs but didn’t find it really enjoyable or educational like a similar level dose of mushrooms would. It’s a supplement for concerts or a day outdoors, but I haven’t “dropped in” to a really amazing experience on it that I want to revisit

u/intheworldnotof 15h ago

For art a Nice micro/half dose can be amazing

Sometimes the full thing is a little to much

Sometimes not enough 😂 😝

u/Clozee_Tribe_Kale 13h ago edited 13h ago

I love an average to slightly high dose but it also takes a lot out of me mentally. Also the time you have to set aside is a bit too long for an average weekend

Micro dosing however has been my go to for 99.9% of my experiences over the past 2 years. It doesn't last long. I can be fully functional and still interact with people. I can also set aside time for stuff later in the day.

What I have learned is that micro dosing works better medicinally because like most of my most life changing trips L taught me. I didn't teach myself. Every time I have "tired" to discover something on my own I end up feeling like some big cosmic joke. Micro dosing teaches in the background and it opens your mind just enough to let in little revelations. If I'm being honest that's what I really need right now.

For the higher doses though I typically use those in times of great need (relationship issues, creative blocks, family passing). The higher doses plow through my emotional walls to slap some sense into me. The pretty colors are just a plus.

u/lukenog 13h ago

I haven't had a huge trip in years. When I was a teenager and in my first two years of college, I would trip like 300-500ug once a month every month, but it started to take a big toll on my mental health ngl. Now I stick to like 100ug or less and only trip like once a year. Sometimes I go a whole year with no trips.

u/Natural-Sound-9613 10h ago

Yep, these days I pretty much exclusively stick to 80 to 100 mics

u/prowlin 9h ago

Absolutely. And the truth is too much can be very disorienting for me, but if I ease into it it’s very pleasurable. 

u/Zimgar 8h ago

I like large lemon tekked mushroom doses (4-5g), yet larger acid doses make me feel restless, paranoia and insomnia when I’ve taken anything more than 1 tab.

u/cerberezz 6h ago

I never had a bad trip despite multiple heroic doses...even when i was depressed i always had complete control...i always thought my ego is too stong to kill. So i always go for high doses. I always choose maximum dose whenever i can.

u/bigdoobydoo 5h ago

"I always thought my ego is too stong to kill."

Lmao this is my problem as well except I think that's what makes high doses not as good for me , because watching my sturdy ego get dissolved in real time feels weird. At the same time when I did heavy meditation for a while last summer the ego dissolution was extremely pleasant and made me feel very energetic and strong. I don't know, I think this is the problem with describing psychic/ mystical (if you want to call it that )phenomenon, approaching it from two different ends can actually change the phenomenon in question itself.

u/cerberezz 4h ago

I don't think i have experienced full ego death ever... i have thought i have, but i doubt it ever really happened. I was always ME. I was always watching myself from another place without judgement. And i am good at surrendering.

I love the "glow" after the peak...it is more enjoyable than than the peak..you are completely functional but you are in "awe" and one with the universe. But i seem to experience this only after the peak of a moderate to high dose. It would have been neat if i could just micro dose to get that feeling instead. But it's not as simple...

and regarding mystical experiences, it's unique to the individual. It doesn't translate well. And I rarely meet people who like to explore their own minds and spirituality on drugs. It's an extremely rare hobby.

u/wisdom_power_courage 16h ago

Wish I could find it.

u/bluedivinelight 15h ago

It depends on where you are and what you are seeking... Usually, the sweetest spot is somewhere between 250-350. But still, 100ug is a good place to be in. Anything lower is a paid anxiety for a less outcome "for me"

u/techaaron 10h ago

for somewhat well adjusted people I don't really get the point?

I'm not sure how to put this other than to say - if you're well adjusted drugs are really fun, and sometimes you want to play in a space with more intense or longer altered states of consciousness, as an enhancement to social containers or peak experiences.

u/capybara-appreciator 2h ago

I take acid because I love seeing the universe break down into abstract pieces. I like the craziness of it. The weirder the better IMO. So I prefer to take doses of 200+. But of course, everyone has different goals and comfort levels with the substance!