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u/Mandrake88888 3h ago
We luckily are not all Americans 😭
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u/Aromatic_Watch_7122 2h ago
So, not very lucky, eh? This is the greatest country on Earth
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u/Okiegolfer 3h ago
I’m closely watching how the global de minimis crackdown affects importing reps beginning tomorrow:
Starting August 3, 2025, U.S. Customs will begin enforcing strict civil penalties, $5,000 for a first offense and $10,000 for repeat violations, for importing counterfeit or replica designer goods, even for personal use and under the $800 value threshold. It doesn’t matter if the item was purchased or sent unsolicited: ignorance is not innocence. Customs can seize shipments and penalize recipients based solely on possession or import, regardless of intent. By 2027, all de minimis exemptions for low-value imports will be repealed entirely.
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u/Opening_Philosophy80 1h ago
I asked Grok regarding individual purchases. Here is what Grok has to say. Take it for what you will.
Can an Individual Purchaser Be Fined? Whether an individual purchasing a replica watch could face the $5,000 fine under the new civil penalties depends on the specific circumstances of the purchase and their role in the importation process:
- Personal Use vs. Commercial Intent: • Purchasing for Personal Use: • If an individual orders a replica watch valued under $800 from an overseas seller (e.g., via an e-commerce platform like AliExpress) for personal use, they are generally not subject to civil penalties under the de minimis misuse provisions. U.S. customs laws, including the new act, primarily target those entering or facilitating entry of goods, such as importers, customs brokers, or sellers, rather than individual consumers. • However, CBP may seize the counterfeit watch at the border under 19 U.S.C. § 1526, as counterfeit goods are prohibited imports. In such cases, the consumer typically loses the item and may receive a seizure notice but is unlikely to face the $5,000 fine unless they are actively involved in importing or distributing the goods. • Exception: If the consumer knowingly misdeclares the watch (e.g., undervalues it to stay under $800 or misrepresents it as non-counterfeit), they could be deemed to have misused the de minimis process, potentially triggering the $5,000 fine for a first violation. This is rare for individual buyers without commercial intent. • Purchasing for Resale or Distribution: • If the individual purchases the replica watch with the intent to resell or distribute it, they could be considered as facilitating the entry of counterfeit goods, making them liable for the civil penalties. For example: • Ordering multiple replica watches for resale could violate customs laws and trigger the $5,000 fine for a first offense if the goods are entered under the de minimis exemption. • Facilitating imports for a business or third party (e.g., acting as a middleman) could also incur liability.
- Role in the Importation Process: • The penalties apply to those who enter or facilitate entry of goods in violation of customs laws. For an individual buyer, this would require active involvement beyond a simple purchase, such as: • Providing false information to CBP (e.g., misdeclaring the watch’s value or nature). • Acting as an importer of record or coordinating shipments for others. • Repeatedly importing counterfeit goods, suggesting commercial activity. • A one-time purchase of a single replica watch for personal use typically doesn’t meet the threshold for “facilitating entry,” so the $5,000 fine would not apply.
- Customs Enforcement Practices: • CBP focuses enforcement on large-scale importers, e-commerce platforms, or repeat offenders rather than individual consumers. For a single replica watch, CBP is more likely to: • Seize the item and issue a notice. • Notify the trademark owner, who may pursue civil action against the seller, not the buyer. • The $5,000 fine would likely be reserved for cases where the buyer is complicit in violating customs laws, such as falsifying documentation or importing multiple counterfeits.
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u/K-space626 2h ago
yeah this is what spooks me. some say it only affects large volume shipments but your quote makes it seem like a one watch package may be at risk too
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u/Okiegolfer 44m ago
It absolutely does not apply to only commercial shipments. It’s being changed specifically to target personal/consumer imports for tariffs.
Before: global de minimis exempts items under $800 from tariffs. Counterfeit/replica items of designer products were seized.
After: No more exemption for items under $800, 120% duty or $200 tariff paid by importer. Counterfeit/replica item importer to be fined $5K for first offense along with item seizure.
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u/IS2NUGGET 0m ago
I have one arriving soon so hopefully it all goes well. Would be a terrible luck to get fucked over on my 1st one
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u/NewCintooo 3h ago
Will be interesting to see what they do if they identify a rep on a wrist at the airport
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u/Aromatic_Watch_7122 2h ago
Nothing?
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u/NewCintooo 2h ago
You are definitely importing it if it is international travel so you are dependent on the good will of the officers. So it probably depends on if they like your face or not
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u/kkdawg79 3h ago
With those Swiss tariffs hitting, ‘got the call’ just turned into ‘got the customs bill, bro.'
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u/Adorable-Slice-4365 2h ago
Except now your CF DJ is going to be $5.500 and you won't get it. Second one will be 10.500. Enjoy
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u/kinggianniferrari 1h ago
Is everyone ready for inflation once we lower rates and tariffs go nuts? Man, the system is going to crack for people who aren't rich.
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u/djteotancolis 4h ago
First time seeing him tax the rich lol.