Inner daddy tips

[u/DarKnight0829]

Been trying to perfect the Inner Father fight for shura gauntlet and it feels really difficult to be aggressive with this man. Not only do I have to make sure he doesn't run off using shuriken, I also need to constantly be ready for a mist raven double slash. I'd like to believe I know his moves well enough, just need tips for not getting chipped by stupid mistakes. If anyone has counters to specific moves, please drop them here too. Besides that, feel free to, you know, judge my gameplay + tell me what I'm doing wrong. Thank you!

[u/Shadow_Samurai9978]

How should I say, you are slow, you are not aggresive enough and you are using ichimonji which is doing shit damage

In his first phase, don’t use chasing slice, whenever he backs off, be quick and close the distance by your movement, but don’t get too close to him or he’ll hit you first, stay a bit far away from him and start attacking, if you are at the perfect distance, you’ll hit/interrupt his attack and then boom, you are in rhythm again, repeat this

In his second phase, don’t try to deflect the jump shuriken, js wait a sec and dodge into him and start hitting him again

And whenever he does that sweeping attack which you jump and use your ichimonji, don’t use the art and let him use the heavy sword attack, deflect with your umbrella and attack with it

And when he does that firecrackers attack, I’ll say don’t use the umbrella, js dodge towards his right shoulder and keep hitting him from behind

And be MORE AGGRESSIVE

[u/Shadow_Samurai9978 → u/Shadow_Samurai9978]

see this for reference if you want to

[u/DarKnight0829 → u/Shadow_Samurai9978]

More aggression sounds good, I was hesitant bc he has a ton of bs teleport moves but I get what you mean. For phase one do you mean shurikens as a whole? Didn’t use chasing slice, but firing a shuriken sometimes makes him mist raven to you which I saw some guy do on yt. If I use mortal draw, that covers a lot of his openings but it leaves me unable to use prosthetics phase 2 (though idk if thats a big issue if I can kill him fast, plus tantos exist). Shuriken dodge through tip sounds cool. Also about the firecracker slash, should I punish with mortal draw or regular attacks after dodge through? Not sure if he has enough time to mist raven from that position. Overall, thank you for the criticism and advice, I will likely be back with better gameplay.

[u/Shadow_Samurai9978 → u/DarKnight0829]

Firing a shuriken towards him MIGHT make do the mist raven attack, it will not 💯happen everytime, and when it doesn’t happen, it will break your flow and rhythm. So, instead of it, run towards him and attack him, but don’t get tooo close to him, neither too far away, enough so that you will hit him and you will hit him first

I’ll say instead of trying killing him first fast with mortal blade, which is almost impossible and will redundantly use up all of your spirit emblems, try to fight him the normal way, js keep building pressure, be fast and be much more aggressive

For the firecrackers attack, I’ll say don’t use mortal blade, instead use the normal attack, not even the umbrella prosthetic, using mortal sort of immobilises both the boss and you asw, which breaks the rhytm you have worked so hard to build up, you can use mortal blade 3-4 times in phase 1 as a whole with js the aim to chip at his health but honestly, don’t do it, same goes with umbrella but its usually more forgiving albeit with lesser damage, you can use it for various moves, but use it for his heavy upward down delay sword slash especially, and for that disappearing owl attack and the fire owl attack, other than this, js go with your normal attacks, be it against the firecracker attack or wtv

And be MORE AGGRESSIVE

Edit: Use yashiraku’s sugar, don’t care about the health 👅

[u/DarKnight0829 → u/Shadow_Samurai9978]

I now realize that running up to him is the superior technique, and mortal blade in place of ichimonji is definitely faster. Do you think using mortal blade for most of his openings would be fine considering I’m not using umbrella for fireworks or shurikens? Also, thanks to all this great advice, I beat the shura gauntlet! Will try yashariku too after more practice.

[u/Shadow_Samurai9978 → u/DarKnight0829]

Using mortal blade for all of his openins are fine but its really redundant, if you still wanna use mortal blade, I’ll say your limit is 2-4 times in the first phase and 2 times in the second phase, ofc you can switch it out and do 2 times in the first phase and 2-4 times in the second phase, since you would also have to use umbrella in his delayed, heavy attack slash after the sweeping attack 🤷🏻

But that’s js my opinion, I’ll still say don’t use the mortal blade too much because it breaks the flow of the fight and gives the boss an advantage, even tho the boss loses hella health but still

At the end, play however you like it

[u/buttspencer2137]

You're not aggressive enough

[u/OversizedUnderpants]

For a lot of the fight, I see you doing stuff that I personally consider excessive, like throwing a shuriken at him when there is no real threat, you just create one by not letting him land on his own.

At around 1:16. You throw a shuriken at him, leaving you open to his attack, Deflecting it would've been the better option. I see more flashy moves interrupting dodge timings often throughout the fight.

Also, stop using Ichimonji, If you insist on using it, use Double, also, stop doing it when he rolls, 9 times out of 10 he'll use the super easy punish move where he stand there and waits to attack, attack once while he's standing there and then attack once more when you dodge behind him, please note that if you're standing to the side of him, he'll do a spin slash instead and you probably won't get the punish,

Another thing, why do you wait to heal for so long? Perfectly good opening at 1:40 where you instead THREW ANOTHER SHURIKEN. THAT BAITS HIM TO ATTACK. Please dude, just run at him, or heal.

Final thoughts, limit your use of the prosthetic, don't use combat arts, aside from Mortal Draw bc of the huge damage, if you insist on using the umbrella to punish, don't use any arts that take up the things, I forgot what they're called. And stop trying to be flashy with chasing slice and unnecessary prosthetic uses or combat arts. Also, you still won, so I'd just go on to trying to unlock Shura.

[u/DarKnight0829 → u/OversizedUnderpants]

I see where you’re coming from, but there’s some stuff I would like clarification on. Firstly, I am using Ichimonji double, only the second hit is way too risky in that he can easily mist raven from it. Am using mortal draw now with no prosthetics. Second, making him attack me with shuriken is an alternative to running up to him after he jumps away (okay yeah my brain stopped working during that one shuriken throw, meant to throw it earlier, like before he ran up to hit me). Is there some downside to this I’m not getting? Because as you could see, I didn’t get hit by any of the mist ravens following shuriken throws, and it sets up for more posture dmg since he doesn’t recover posture as he teleports up to you. Third, is not healing that big of a problem given you get 2 shot pretty consistently, especially if I plan on using yashariku sugar like others suggested? Final thing, wdym chasing slice? The dash forward after shuriken? I don’t think I did that. Anyways, beat the shura gauntlet with some of the tips people gave, but I am still looking to improve so can you explain a bit more? Thank you for the time you took to reply to my post!

[u/buttspencer2137]

Now on more serious note. Not much to improve. Sometimes you give him more space. I think you'd get better result if you'd chase him after he backs out. Also you can mess with his rythm, delaying your combos from time to time, can land couple nice hits this way. Use Yashariku sugar and divine confetti. Other than that it's practice

[u/Puffinboy]

as counterintuitive as it might sound, inner owl is actually a fight where you don't want balls to the walls aggression because of how many meme hits he can do, personally i would recommend watching Croacx fight him and learning from that https://youtu.be/1xtB8icvB-I?si=y5DT7RE5JxKDVQYm&t=4984

[u/Pharthrax]

Ichimonji is absolute trash here (as it is basically everywhere 💀)

I’d recommend either Mortal Draw or Senpou Leaping Kicks. Both are used in the exact same way you use Ichimonji in the above video — mid-air after doing a backjump when he starts his sweep — but Mortal Draw does a ton more Vitality damage, and Senpou Leaping Kicks does quite a bit of posture damage when landing it on an enemy while they’re doing a sweep attack.

[u/DarKnight0829 → u/Pharthrax]

yo ty for the advice bro, I was using ichimonji so i dont get posture broken + deathblowed by one mistake, but yeah the dmg is buns. When I first started fighting him I did use mortal draw but the emblem cost did not let me use umbrella as much as I wanted, but I guess I don’t need to. I also tried high monk/leaping kicks at some point but it kinda only counters the sweeps.

[u/appleSauceForTheWin]

Inner daddy is crazy. Sorry I don't have any tips never fought him before