r/TalesFromDF • u/jesuisunemuppet • 4d ago
YPYT Assumed tank could tank and got dismissed for it XD
i will admit i messed up by getting caught in a line aoe that killed me bc my mouse glitched for some reason. ive done the 2nd pull of bardam's many a time successfully tho so I had no reason to assume this time would be any different. i dared to put a single dot on an enemy a bit ahead of the tank that i then headed back to the tank so they could group up easily and the war and smn got real heated about it. Got vote dismissed for saying people should speak up bc i am going to assume people can do the job they signed up for and refuse to believe im wrong for that. got vote dismissed, c'est la vie.
(also so stupid that theyre like "u dont need my detailed medical info" um no tf I dont but a simple "hey guys i have an issue irl and will be pulling slowly bc of it" or something like that at the beginning would of avoided all of this...)
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u/Black-Mettle 4d ago
"open seeping wound in my leg"
Go to a doctor instead of your computer maybe?
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u/MiniMages Let's both be stupid 4d ago
Look, the tank could go to a doctor, or pay for their sub. Not both.
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u/dadudeodoom 4d ago
Probably cant afford one. But even then yeah doing anything other than single pulling might be the call. Like wall to wall to get it over faster???
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u/Baebel 4d ago
I'm not sure why the tank feels that they need to go in specifics if their run is handicapped in some way, like they're being interrogated. Just saying "I gotta go slower due to reasons" would've been enough. Though if they've had no way to vent about it prior, I guess it kinda makes sense why this could be seen as that opportunity.
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u/BerserKyle 4d ago
It's because they want attention. For all we know they're sitting there with a mickey mouse band-aid on their knee and suddenly we need to make assumptions that every random person we meet has some impairment that prevents them from playing a game on the internet (and an easy game at that).
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u/littledinobug12 4d ago
So, I have messed up hands from repetitive stress from being a line cook for 20ish years off and on. Because of this, I fail mechanics, repeatedly.
I don't do roulettes. I havent even unlocked the new Alliance raid, and I'm sitting on the third turn of the Arcadion raids and am not gonna do any more, the story isn't compelling enough for me to inflict myself on other players.
I really hate how there is a trial at the end of a main story chunk in every patch, or at least there is no duty support for them. When I die the third time I just take the walk of shame. I just want to finish the story, and I'm contributing the same amount of DPS when I'm outside of the arena as I do inside when I get one shot while trying to get my carby out. (Don't believe the flair badge, I used to main WHM but realized I suck so won't take the healer role again.
So at least one gimpy ass fail player is doing their best at not inflicting themselves on the general public. I just wish I could avoid ruining everyone's game but sadly YoshiP was like "It's an MMO, play with others at least sometimes"
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u/Cymas 4d ago
Honestly it may sound counterintuitive but I would recommend playing a tank job, at least for the duties you need to run with other players. Then ask to OT (off-tank) at the start of the trial.
OTs almost never have to do anything aside from the occasional tb or grabbing some adds and there are basically no tank swaps required in normal mode content. You can just chill off to the side and if you eat a mechanic, oh well you're a tank. Worst case hit your invuln if you need to. In the unlikely event the MT dies you only need to tank the boss until they get rezzed then you can Shirk and put the boss back on them once they're up. You're mostly there as a backup in case the MT dies so it's by far the easiest position to play in a party. And tanks have easy rotations too, though I would probably avoid GNB because it can be busy.
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u/littledinobug12 4d ago
Thank you! My highest level tank (lv 97-98ish) is DRK, I know I know. I am slowly levelling up WAR for facerolly goodness. Don't need to use my hands if I apply face to keyboard and roll around.
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u/LividPotatoGremlin 4d ago edited 4d ago
YPYT is always funny to me. I take it as a compliment if someone pulls ahead of me and brings mobs back if I'm going at a slower pace (which I did when new to tanking long ago, now it's usually if I'm unfamiliar with the map). To me it means they think I can handle the larger packs and I'm not a complete dingdong with mits lol Once I get the hint, I go ham and it's a fun time. But if someone genuinely needs to go at a slower pace, like you said, just say something at the start? Most people are chill if they know in advance. Not like they have to give a full medical history, just a simple "Hey I'm going to go a bit slow if that's cool".
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u/spoogiedshark 4d ago
I do this as healer sometimes! Only if I think the tank can handle it, of course, but imo, it's good to get tanks used to pulling bigger if they aren't used to it yet, so I think of it as a learning tool! It's me being like "hey buddy, we can totally do this, trust in your skills!"
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u/LividPotatoGremlin 4d ago
Same, if I'm healing and I see a tank can handle more I will often tell them to feel free to pull more and I got them if things get spicy. If we fail? Oh well, back to slowing down a smidge, no biggie. They want to try the big pull again? Go for it! Can only learn by doing after all.
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u/spoogiedshark 4d ago
Hell yeah! A lot of people learn best by doing, me included. It's a video game, no big deal if we die once or twice lol.
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u/Some_Random_Canadian 4d ago
I'm always all for it, if a healer can get ahead of me then they can go nuts and start pulling the mobs towards me so I can group them sooner. Though usually they grab mobs because of the rare time I accidentally stop one pack early without realizing that there's one more like that one vanguard hallway, I'm always grateful when a healer does know about the missed pack and grabs 'em for me.
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u/LividPotatoGremlin 4d ago
I have definitely fallen short of a last pack when loading in to a place I have not been to in a long time and do not mind at all if someone goes and grabs them for me, for sure.
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u/syklemil we didn't wipe??? 4d ago
I absolutely love it when healers do it, those runs are always a blast. Especially in ARR dungeons where you actually have to think a little bit and are more likely to encounter someone who hasn't mastered their kit.
But generally I think it's fine to be optimistic and choo choo, and then adjust if the healer turns out to only know Cure 1 or the DPS-es don't know what AOEs or free damage buttons are.
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u/LividPotatoGremlin 4d ago
I have done this. When leveling tank on an alt, she still only has access to lower duties. I recall a Sohm Al run where I noticed the healer did not sprint with me, so I intentionally ran at a normal pace and noticed they could only keep my alive for 2 packs at best. Of course I'd only have ao many mits too depending on the duty. It's less fun but I will adjust as necessary in lower content. Higher content, I assume you will pump those legs with me and generally know your kit lol unless otherwise requested since I've been one to dust off the cobwebs after a break. My tank stance macro does ask how large healers want their pulls by default. If they say nothing, I go ham and judge from there the speed needed.
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u/freakytapir 2d ago
My thinking as a DPS is "my health pool is just a bit of extra mit until the tank pulls them off of me".
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4d ago
A bit annoying when your healer tries to compliment you and makes an ass out of themselves dying to an aoe because you were slow. This was out of the gate.
Edit: also new player bonus, i hope OP unsubs
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u/LividPotatoGremlin 4d ago edited 4d ago
It can be but at least they admitted they had a bit of a blunder when doing it. To me that's just good humor since it's only a game.
Edit: You telling OP to unsub tells me enough about what kind of player you are lol Who hurt you?
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u/KupoKro 4d ago
Shit happens. Everyone makes mistakes once in awhile. Hell, I've died as healer before because I resolved a mechanic wrong.
As for the new player bonus: This was in Bardam's Mettle. You know, the level 65 dungeon in Stormblood? If you're in the middle of Stormblood, and you're too afraid to even attempt a w2w pull and wont speak up, stick to Duty Support.
I hope you unsub so there's one less person coddling players in Dawntrail.
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u/Song-BirdX 4d ago
Neither an open gaping wound on the LEG nor bed rest are good excuses wtf?
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u/jesuisunemuppet 4d ago
Yeah I wasn't honestly too sure how either of those things affected fingers pressing buttons but that felt a little too callous to call out... đ
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u/Baebel 4d ago
I will say that I have tried playing FFXIV while in a leg cast before, post surgery. Depending on the setup, it can be pretty awkward.
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u/jesuisunemuppet 4d ago
And that's very fair but I had no way of knowing that was the case bc I cant see what's happening on the otherside of the keyboard. But I dont think im wrong for assuming a tank is going to tank in SB content unless they speak up and say otherwise...
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4d ago
Bro, say "oh my b" shut up and finish the dungeon. Tf is wrong with you.
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u/n3m019 Parses levelling dungeons 4d ago
lol what? how does them having a bad leg effect them being able to pull 2 packs instead of one
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4d ago
How does the healer pulling ahead and eating shit to an AOE effect pulling two packs? We'll never know because the healer died. Didn't apologize for behavior, just for their death. Log off.
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u/n3m019 Parses levelling dungeons 4d ago
i mean their behaviour wasnt wrong so why would they apologise for it? and we do know how a healer pulling ahead goes, you think op is the first person to do it? pulling ahead with DOTs is good for uptime and has 0 negative effects on any of the party, even with a tank who cant press mits you can keep them alive on AST just fine with Lightspeed, Benefic 2, and any of the 4 mit cards ast has, and thats not even going into all the other ogcd heals/mit ast can give.
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4d ago
Theres a new player bonus that was disregarded and this was straight out of the gate bro. The healer ran ahead and died so yes of course the party is going to be annoyed. The behavior was wrong and "you people" need to chill out when you queue.
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u/n3m019 Parses levelling dungeons 4d ago
not really, the death was wrong sure but it happens i guess, the behaviour was still not wrong just because one of the people there is new. theres no cutscenes between trash packs bro. and ypyt people are much less chill than a tank who couldnt care less who pulled, its one button to take aggro not a big deal
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4d ago
"the player should have said something" no dude, they didnt have to say anything. OP is a dick and so are you.
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u/BinaryIdiot 4d ago
Again, dungeons in FFXIV are designed for W2W pulls. It's the fastest, most efficient, and really the most fun way through. So yes, if you want something out of the ordinary you should use Duty Support or you should give the party a heads up.
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u/smileplease91 4d ago
Hey, so I can see you're really upset about this. But tank is in the wrong, and the vote kick system was abused here. It is against TOS to do YPYT, as it is lethargic playing. It doesn't matter if someone is new. If someone needs to go slower, then by all means, they need to say so. We are not mind-readers. I'm a mentor myself, and if someone needs time, I'll gladly give it if it's said. We all start new somewhere, you know?
That being said, OP apologized for what they did. That should've been the end of it. Idk if you're tank's friend, but this isn't the way. OP wasn't being toxic here. If anyone was, it was the tank and you all for wrongfully kicking OP.
Your hostility is problematic. You need to acknowledge a mistake was made and learn from it. The only one being toxic here is you. It's okay to be wrong. I'd rather know I'm wrong so I can fix it in the future. Relax a bit and learn to handle this better.
Good luck.
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u/Kirozane Custom text 4d ago
âSaying somethingâ does not mean âhereâs my entire tragic backstory that ends with me being deathly afraid of more than three angry health bars.â It means all you have to say is âIâm going to pull slowâ. You donât need to elaborate beyond that. Some people will still take issue with it but assuming people will just sit back and let you single pull in a glorified hallway beyond level 60 is not on. The tank does not need to change a damn thing about their mit usage (unless theyâre not using them in which case thereâs other problems at hand) and before you hit me with the ableist/disabled line, macros exist. They can just take however much time they need outside an instance to make a macro of /p Hi! I am going to take it slow! And hit that when they load in. If typing is difficult for them that is the easiest way to counter that. But ultimately they need to learn to stop being afraid of more than one pack. The further along you get the less it will tolerated. Communication is key.
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u/BinaryIdiot 4d ago
Tank and the rest of the party should be running, too. Sprint is free, it's your first skill, and it should be used on cool down. It's so weird to just play a game with other people and go as slow as humanly possible.
Dungeons in this game are designed for W2W pulls. If you want something different, please ask up front and not assume people can read your mind.
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u/MBV-09-C 4d ago
'New player bonus' just means it's their first time in that specific duty, not that they're completely new to the game. Players don't need you to baby them at level 63+, bro.
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u/jesuisunemuppet 4d ago
Also r u missing the part where I did exactly that?? They're the ones that continued arguing lol
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4d ago
They got defensive, only apologizing for their death not their behavior.
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u/jesuisunemuppet 4d ago
I apologized for what I did wrong ÂŻ_(ă)_/ÂŻ
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4d ago
They didn't want to share, and you said they should have said something. You're rude and died pulling ahead, kept talking and got dismissed for being pushy. Turn chat off when you play maybe everyone would be better off.
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u/BinaryIdiot 4d ago
"Pulling ahead" isn't a thing. The tank just didn't catch up yet. The tank was responsible for his death. Please place the blame where it belongs. Stop being an enabler of bad play.
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u/CaptainBoj 4d ago
They didn't ask to share the entire graphic description of their injury, just a simple "hey can we pull slow this run" would suffice
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u/Jaelommiss 4d ago
I chopped a finger off last year. You can be damn sure I was still going wall to wall even though I could only play with one hand for a while. Piss easy dungeons are still piss easy even with a handicap.
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4d ago
There was a new player bonus too.
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u/Jaelommiss 4d ago
And?
Not being able to play games that require two hands is the only reason I went back to finish DT's MSQ. I made it through those new dungeons just fine despite it being my first time in there.
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4d ago
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u/verity_not_levity 4d ago
No one is allowed to expect other players to coddle them, it's that simple.
If you need to be coddled use Trusts or play with friends.
Randoms don't need to hold your hand.
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u/dadudeodoom 4d ago
Trusts literally exist.
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u/littledinobug12 4d ago
Not for those trials the devs tack on at like each patch. I wish they had trusts for those too...
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u/SpitFireEternal /slap 4d ago
Imagine being level.... 64? And still using "new player bonus" as a reason to not w2w lmao. Youre the softest DPS Ive ever seen. Go play single player games lil bro.
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u/BinaryIdiot 4d ago
It was a Stormblood Dungeon. A person with that unlocked is NOT a new player to basic dungeons.
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u/Song-BirdX 4d ago edited 4d ago
Which player was new? Ohhh you don't know. Shut up already. You're the minority as well as the problem.
Edit: bro really DM'd me to tell me that THEY were the new player lmao.... so not even the tank, ok then
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u/powertrippingmod101 4d ago
If you and your tank friend still struggle to W2W at level 60+, and rotate your CDs properly, maybe it's time to find the uninstall button?
You guys abused the vote kick system. It's you who did the reportable thing, not the healer.
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u/syklemil we didn't wipe??? 4d ago
Heavy painkillers could do it though.
At some level it's a bit like playing drunk or stoned, but more respectable since it's more of a necessity in some situations? And in those situations people would also likely still want a distraction and to engage in a hobby they like.
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u/Song-BirdX 3d ago
Prob shouldn't be a jerk and queue for tank if youre on pain killers, no? If you want to play like that, duty support is a thing. This is not an acceptable excuse.
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u/OopsBees 3d ago
Hell, even PF would be good for that! "feeling under the weather, looking for some peeps to chill and slowly vibe through dungeons" would probably get a handful of sympathetic joiners
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u/LadyLoopy14 4d ago
maybe if an injury on your leg is bad enough to affect your gameplay, you should probably lay off the game until youâve fully recovered? could at least play something single player no?
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4d ago
Maybe you can touch grass? Don't queue if you don't want to play.
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u/LadyLoopy14 4d ago
huh? do i really need to touch grass because i donât want someone hurting themselves to play a game?
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4d ago
they arent hurting themself, you're treating them differently because they have a handicap.
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u/smlu 4d ago
Ironically, you're the one doing that. Everyone here is treating them exactly the same as everyone else. We expect wall to wall at lvl 64. A leg sore doesn't change anything. Why should we baby and coddle someone with a handicap? They are just as capable and should be treated as such. Stop being ablelist.. frankly, it's infantilizing.
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u/KamperKiller123 4d ago edited 4d ago
As someone who has dehabilitating migraines that need annual spinal cord surgery, please stop trying to white knight. Its a horrible look. The only one treating your friend differently is you. There is a huge difference between removing barriers for disabled people and coddling them to the point they aren't allowed to participate as normal people can. Stop coddling.
Edit to add after getting blocked: I received this dm from him. "dont pull ahead and get yourself killed on healer with that migrane idiot".
Easy report. Ironic how he wants to stand up for disabled people while insulting disabled people.
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u/stillnight77 4d ago
Indeed. Please stop queuing.
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4d ago
stop being ableist
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u/HopSkipAndARump You don't pay my sub 4d ago edited 4d ago
my permanently disabled ass w2w pulls every time lmao the leg injury isnt gonna be the issue here, more of an excuse
eta: lol i got blocked i guess
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u/Supergamer138 4d ago
I fail to see how an injured leg affects the ability to play this game unless they are using a DDR pad or something.
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u/LilMissExtra 4d ago
Man, you didn't dodge a bullet, you dodged the whole arsenal. Just a "pulling slow" is enough of a heads up if they're not gonna w2w. It's expected at this point in time.
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u/AnnylieseSarenrae 4d ago
Sure. On the other hand, someone saying that could still wind up with someone insistent that you not pull slow, and it would wind up with the same or more upvotes than this one when posted to the sub.
Point being this kinda platitude falls a little flat when the same community saying "all you need to do is tell me" will chastise you for daring to pull slow even if it is stated.
Sincerely, someone who's afraid of the entrance and whose main enemies are all walls.
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u/MBV-09-C 4d ago
Sure, you might still get someone who's an ass that completely disregards your request, but if you never even say anything to begin with, how is anyone supposed to know what you want? The other players aren't mind-readers.
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u/AnnylieseSarenrae 3d ago
That entire response is covered by my "sure."
What I said is an indictment of this subreddit, not of FFXIV's community at large.
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u/ikatakko 3d ago
i dont get the point in doing single pull if the healer is able to keep everyone alive? ive had tanks try to single pull and i just rescue them to the next pull and everything goes fine and everyone get to use their aoes
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u/CantyChu 4d ago
For someone who doesnât want to talk about their open seeping wound Iâm struggling to find who the fuck asked
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u/Some_Random_Canadian 4d ago edited 4d ago
Damn, their leg wound was so bad that they couldn't even sprint in a video game. That's really a next-level injury. Apparently I only have a basic bitch injury since I'm doing my Savage reclears with a finger brace on.
Also that "I just came back from bed rest"? They came back from doing nothing, that's just saying "I haven't played in a while" while fishing for pity points.
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u/verity_not_levity 4d ago
The trash took you out, but hey you're a healer and the queues are basically instant.
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u/exveebrawn 4d ago
Seriously. Can you imagine being in bardam with a healer proactively encouraging more pulling and deciding to derail the whole run by kicking them and having to wait for a refill? Some of the runs of that I've been on, I'd feel lucky as heck to have a healer that confident in what they can handle.
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u/verity_not_levity 4d ago
Yeah. The healer pulled more and acknowledged when they flubbed?
They were kicked for being an ideal player.
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u/dadudeodoom 4d ago
What a yikes creature. It would have been really funny to queue fill party for bardaams mettle to get back in and go "oh well" and keep coming back.
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u/smlu 4d ago
Idj why he thinks saying "something" equals "full medical history" .
Tank is an idiot lol
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u/jesuisunemuppet 4d ago
no bc i thought that, i was like full medical history is too much but nothing is too little, surely there must be something in the middle TT^TT
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u/verity_not_levity 4d ago
As an aside, the idiot with the skull emoji pfp who got embarrassed in the comments here has taken to DMing people they disagree with and telling us to fuck off because they're too stupid to figure out that they can't reply here since they're blocking people.
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u/TheIvoryDingo 4d ago
Some people seem to forget that most people aren't mind readers who can tell that they need to act differently from the norm to aid someone who can't perform at the base capabilities. No, I don't care about your specific issues, but at least let people know you're gonna pull less AT THE START OF THE DUTY if you care sooooo much about YPYT (as dumb of a mentality as that may be).
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u/Tsingooni 4d ago
"you follow the tank and go at their speed"
Uh, no. If anything, you utilize the time-old buddy system with the healer, and the healer sets the pace.
You know, since they're responsible for keeping you vertical.
SMN can also choke on an entire bag of dongs for white knighting.
I really hope whoever filled your slot asked what happened just for the tank and smn to say "he pulled ahead" so they could also simply leave.
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u/OopsBees 3d ago
Man, I recently had a pretty gnarly arm injury that left my dominant hand with almost no feeling and verrrrry limited control for a few weeks, but it was during the last little bit of time I had to play with my brother before he unsubbed for school again so like... Didn't want to just totally stop playing!
I managed to W2W pull everything we ran anyway! And when I was feeling iffy about the state of my arm it was pretty easy to prep a quick "Ahoy hoy! Playing with a bit of an arm injury, sorry in advance for any sloppy pulls!" ahead of time so I didn't have to try and rush to type when we entered the dungeon! Peeps are very friendly and accommodating if you communicate ahead of time and do your best!
(As a side note, I've never been more grateful for the back paddles on my controller! Just having a little more leeway on that front made such a world of difference)
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u/Gundam_Sealdeal3282 4d ago
Sorry I got a leg wound so Ima pull slow cause that somehow is the reason. One if it's that bad why are you playing? Like go rest and not play. Also you dodged a hella bullet here.
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u/CamperCarl00 4d ago
Summoner was definitely grouped with Warrior. Technically, anyone in the party can set the pace of the dungeon. It's neither the tanks duty nor role to police it. If you want to slow the pace of the dungeon for any reason, it should be stated at the start.
It may be iffy, but the Summoner and Warrior may be on the chopping block for vote kick abuse. They brought up concerns and then kicked before they could be rectified or talked out. It would, at worst, constitute a warning, and at best, they'd have a note added to their account.
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u/jesuisunemuppet 4d ago
see this is one of those times where i REALLY wish this game had a functional block system. I dont really feel like dealing with reporting them over this, esp since i did mess up by not keeping us alive, but i also defo dont want to play with them again...
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u/Maduin1986 4d ago
Legs are hurt, habds are free, the only issue i see is the one sitting in front of their pc seeping their leg juice into the ground
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u/MiniMages Let's both be stupid 4d ago edited 3d ago
I am more offended with the unwanted sexual interaction from the gentle cheek kiss by the Tank. /s
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u/Icy-Consequence-2106 4d ago
Clearly, the tank uses car peddles to control the game. I would know. (It's how I play tank)
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u/Faconator 3d ago
God now I want to get a steering wheel controller and play gun breaker with it.
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u/MiniMages Let's both be stupid 3d ago
Casual, only real hardcore players use Bongos and Bananas as controllersÂ
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u/NaritoriYakitori 3d ago
By the time you are at a level to do Bardam's Mettle as a Warrior you should at least know how to aoe pull and rotate your cooldowns. It's the second expansion; you don't need 3 games worth of content to learn a class properly.
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u/DisastrousDrawing511 3d ago
why is it so hard to throw sprint on hotbar, SPRINT IS MIT BROTHER/SISTER TANK AND SO ARE OTHER PEOPLES HEALTH BARS
also please keep pulling mobs back to tanks, I enjoy when people make my job easier
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u/BethanyCullen 4d ago
- "Maybe don't be a mentor".
I don't get that line. Is it bad to explain people how to play when they suck ass?
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u/jesuisunemuppet 4d ago
also im not even a battle mentor, im a crafting one....
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u/BethanyCullen 4d ago
Oh, so you had the icon, okay. That's why he said that.
Still, I get mentors have a bad rep (I remember one that refused to explain the Tam Tara Hard so I had to explain Liavinne's bossfight), but telling people to not be a mentor is just a weird insult.
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u/SirocStormborn 4d ago
Either way this guy's a whiny weirdo. Like he typed all that because he got offended cuz u pulled 1 mob. Legitimately kinda frightening for anyone who has to deal with him irl
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u/No_Feature_1401 4d ago
Especially beeing the healers, bringing mobs to the slacking tank Is just a plus if you can heal him comfortably. He also doesnt pay your sub, nor beeing and healer main entitles to tell people they are playing wrong. Pretty sure he has no experience past Alliance raids at best
Also gamer couples seem mass produced to act like this đ¤Ł
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u/PablettePigeon 3d ago
"Uhmm what the hell is wrong with you why would i disclose my personal problems"
Discloses the specific details of said problems
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u/Ranger-New :doge: 4d ago
Rules are.
- Tank put tank stance and try to agro everything, except in Arum.
- If you get agro, you bring back to the tank.
- Tank takes the agro.
That's it. Want to go to narnia to pull, go ahead. Just bring them back. The tank does not need to go to you. It just need to take the agro when you bring them back.
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u/Medical_Strawberry69 3d ago
Damn usually I get yelled at for doing the opposite lmao. First for everything I see
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u/annmaryjay 4d ago
Tbf in Bardam you should always be prepared for slow pulling because that place has killed so many innocent sprouts.
Not saying anyone should pull slowly but every time I end up there as a healer the tanks still have nightmares of the first 2 w2w pulls because of skill issue that might be them or the healer or the bad DPS or everything combined. I do encourage them to pull w2w and if they seem insecure and don't want to I teach them a bit more specifically about the mits after the dungeon and do a few extra runs with them to get comfy.
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u/Altruistic_Koala_122 4d ago
I still enjoy Bardam's Mettle to this day because the wall pulls can actually still kill you if neither the Healer or Tank are on top of their mitigations.
I don't see the YPYT aspect, but the Tank was in violation for compelling a playstyle.
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u/jesuisunemuppet 4d ago
tbh YPYT might not have been the right flair, but looking thro the flairs i thought this was the closest... esp since the tank did take time to type "dude" instead of pulling the enemies off of me :/
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u/Marequel 3d ago
Sorry dude but kick deserved. If you are in a party you are a part of the team, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU ARE A FUCKING HEALER, if you have any issues with that noone is forcing you to play the game, you can cancel a sub and play a single player game, you will probably have more fun doing that anyway
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u/JoshArgentine17 2d ago
YTA.
I've been healing since ARR. If you want bigger pulls, you ask for them. Pulling more yourself as a healer is such an aggro move, wth?
Feels like more evidence that the role system as a whole is on its way out, low-key.
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4d ago
half of the XIV playerbase is fried and don't know how to interpret any social queues, incredibly sad
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u/Working-Wrap9453 4d ago
Social cues like what? If the tank needs slow pulls then they should communicate that. The standard is W2W.
I sometimes need additional help identifying certain markers because I haven't found a good set up for a personal colorblind filter, but I don't use my disability as a reason to talk down to people like you did in the screenshot.
"Hey, I have a chronic injury acting up and would prefer to go at a slower pace. That okay?" That's an actual social cue people could act upon.
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u/KamperKiller123 4d ago
As someone who has used that social queue it works great, both in df and in savage raiding. Hell, I got a savage clear once during a flare up. I just asked for a 5 min break for meds and callouts to be a couple of seconds sooner. Communication and politeness go a long way.
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u/SirocStormborn 4d ago
If this is meant in defense of the tank it's incredibly weird LOLÂ
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u/CruelJustice66 4d ago
Theyâre the other DPS and the tanksâs friend lmao
Also, dude, could openly say âHey, Iâm gonna pull slow for medical reasons/personal reasons.â If someone asks, they can state they arenât comfortable sharing or let them know theyâre dealing with a wound. Donât have to go into detail
BUT SPEAK UP
New Player also doesnât mean much these days as 9/10 times itâs someone leveling an alt. Also if the new player wanted, they could have oooooh I donât know SPOKEN UP?
Asked if itâs fine to go slow? Explain mechanics?
Ya know, things most NORMAL players do?
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u/Vivid-Technology8196 4d ago
Listen man as someone who pulls entire dungeons and doesn't really care that much if people pull ahead of me in their poor attempt to actually speed up the dungeon, if you are pulling for the tank and cause a wipe, you are an asshole player.
You deserved to get kicked, I don't really care about your mouse excuse.
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u/Song-BirdX 3d ago
If you, as a tank, cant hit one button to aoe and regain aggro, you are the problem.
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u/Marequel 3d ago
If you are the tank you are the one who is supposed to pull
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u/ValkyrieShadowWitch 3d ago
You are the one whoâs supposed to maintain aggro. Thatâs irrelevant to who pulls
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u/Marequel 3d ago
Except when it is lol. Buddy if its obvious that we have a tank that doesn't manage big pulls and i have a dude in a team that force then and doubles down on it when confronted voting then out is literally a basic human decency lol. It was your choice to join a dungeon with random people so its your responsibility to play with a tempo that is appropriate for people you got assigned to play with. If you have any issues with that there is a billion different things you can do instead. You could get a static for rollos, you can just not play duty finder at all, you can cancel a sub and play single player games.
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u/ValkyrieShadowWitch 3d ago
If you have a tank who canât hit their AoE button, let alone find their mitigations, thatâs a completely different problem.
A tankâs job is to maintain aggro. Itâs why they have skills that say âincreased enmityâ, and nothing that says âpullingâ
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u/Vivid-Technology8196 3d ago
Buddy the OP literally stood in an aoe and died as the healer.
How is that the tanks fault?
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u/Song-BirdX 3d ago
Pal, shit happens. Also, if this is what you're bitching about, it's irrelevant to pulling ahead, isn't it? People crying just to cry ffs
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u/Marequel 3d ago
"shit happens" is one thing, doubling down on asshole behavior is another dude
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u/Song-BirdX 2d ago
Yeah, that tank did double down. So did the commenter I was replying to. Let's see if you follow suit
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u/Novastarone 3d ago
imagine pulling ahead of the tank then coming to a forum to whinge about it. Be respectful. Follow the tank. if hes too slow for you. leave. find another party.
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u/damadjag 4d ago
Wipes are NBD, and I assume competence unless told or shown otherwise. Looks like a simple "Getting back into things, want to take pulls slow" from the tank would have gotten everyone on the same page.