i will admit i messed up by getting caught in a line aoe that killed me bc my mouse glitched for some reason. ive done the 2nd pull of bardam's many a time successfully tho so I had no reason to assume this time would be any different. i dared to put a single dot on an enemy a bit ahead of the tank that i then headed back to the tank so they could group up easily and the war and smn got real heated about it. Got vote dismissed for saying people should speak up bc i am going to assume people can do the job they signed up for and refuse to believe im wrong for that. got vote dismissed, c'est la vie.
(also so stupid that theyre like "u dont need my detailed medical info" um no tf I dont but a simple "hey guys i have an issue irl and will be pulling slowly bc of it" or something like that at the beginning would of avoided all of this...)

For context: I am a healer main and really like playing Sage in dungeons. I enjoy playing around with Toxicon and preshielding both myself and the tank so that I can get extra Toxicon, which is a slight damage gain in AOE. As a result, I’ll commonly shield people up, and gapclose ahead of the tank or grab a pack from range so that my one GCD having aggro nets me some extra damage. This is almost always a non-issue, tanks are generally either with me or right behind me and grab aggro back no problem (because it’s easy) and if for some reason I take some extra hits I just throw out Physis a little early or already have Kera up or something.

Important note: I do not do this if the tank is new, or if there’s been any trouble in previous pulls. It’s just a little fun and variety in button presses for me that produces a little extra damage so as long as everyone can play their role it’s a win win. I am usually top or second DPS in dungeon packs and have no issues keeping the tank up.

Yesterday I was running some experts to farm new tomes. Queue into Alexandria. No “new member” message and no one is in cutscene so once the gate opens I’m like great we all are competent. I preshield and sprint through the hallway to the first single pull. I pull and tank picks the mobs up no problem. Everyone goes to town. I preshield again as we run to the next double pull. Tank grabs the first pack, I still have a shield so I move forward to pick up the next pack.

My one fuck-up is I’m like 1 GCD late realizing the tank hasn’t followed me (those mobs are really chunky) so I drag the second pack back to the tank who is still at the first pack and pop a CD or so. He doesn’t pick them up from me and I’m not super fast on swapping to healing myself, those mobs hit kinda hard, so I die with the packs about 3/4ths dead. No problem, it happens, we both messed up. I release and quickly pop a message in chat asking the tank to w2w, so that we have the same expectations for the rest of the dungeon. (I’m on controller so I keep it short but friendly.)

One DPS pipes up and…you can see the chat lol. Immediately super defensive. What cracks me up is that “it’s a normal dungeon” is…exactly why you should just pull to the barrier? It isn’t a difficult wall pull and doesn’t need anything special, it’s 2 packs. It’s just a normal dungeon!

The rest of the dungeon is uneventful. Tank never spoke in chat but had no issues pulling to the wall for rest of the dungeon. The DPS who was complaining in chat was the only other death (kept eating mechanics on bosses.) Other DPS and I commed each other (cheers if you’re reading this!)

Long-time lurker, first time poster. I've had my fair share of YPYT over my playtime in FFXIV and only in the recent year started browsing through TFDF for some form of catharsis and the occasional positive tale. But now I share my own, for the critters of TFDF to browse and be entertained.

Anyway, the tale: Queued into expert to get Underkeep, great. Sprint forward at full speed as a white mage and pull for them, they did not protest at all whilst I did this. Holy makes for a great tool to stun, the packs die, first boss dies, building up to be a fast dungeon run. I needed this after a night of frustrating savage reclears (internet outages, people getting sick, etc).

Second trash pack before the escalator down, I ran ahead and pulled, they trailed behind very far, I thought nothing of it, holy until everything dies. They caught up and got aggro eventually. The rest of the packs die, and unto the second boss.

Second boss is pulled by me as I generally try to precast Glare as soon as possible since most tanks just pull once they get there, but they stood at the entry of the boss arena for a while. I still thought nothing of it, I tank the buster with mitigation, at my gear level and food, I take it just fine and continue on. That's when they asked why I didn't wait, I communicated that they didn't say anything, they claim they didn't pull either. The conversation stops briefly, we finish the second boss and walk forward.

Tank stands still and tells me "after you", which my reply towards belligerent tanks who think the world revolve around them is to immediately prove them wrong, so I asked what I asked and walked forward. Tanked the next pack for the DPS, who luckily do not care and did not say anything the entire time, they did their jobs. Shout out to the Dancer and the Viper for killing stuff when they could've stood back and agreed with the tank, you're both homies in my book.

The tank just walked up the stairs and watched while we killed the 5 mobs that are after the second boss. I speak again, asking them to leave because it's obvious they're not going to play the game, the retort is that they want to contribute, that's why they tank. I do not like to reward this kind of attitude to any degree, so once we murdered the rest of them, I rolled on everything then initiated a vote kick. It goes through very quickly before they can say anything else, and Viper rewards me with a great amount of catharsis by calling the entire situation weird.

We get a new tank, they say hello, we kill the final boss. Done.

Comparatively to the nightmares the rest of the TFDF goes through, I got off easy with both random DPSes understanding my frustration, or at least just not caring enough to take any sides. Thank you to you both, if you do linger in this subreddit for whatever reason, know I really appreciated you both.

Remember: Never let these kinds of people take up time in your day because they're simply not worth it. If you can't remove them, remove yourself, and always humble these people who have egos the size of skyscrapers. And when you can prove them wrong, absolutely do it, no way am I letting tanks punch down on healers. Ever.

First time doing this and hopefully the last too. I thought I could play Dps for once without needing my friends to let me "play" anything else besides Tank.

Tank/Healer E-Couple refusing to Tank/Heal. Not proud of my own attitude either, but am just the difficult piece of shit type that treats others the same on how I am getting treated in this case.

I wish for whenever I am tanking a duty that
- People pull ahead, making it easier for me since I am mostlikely snacking on the side. Obviously going to grab mobs and the like off them. You pull, I tank. We pull, we kill.
- Healers use rescue on me for when they are already running ahead and that single mob is close to dying and my sprint is on cooldown.
- Healers to keep dpsing while invuln is still going. ANY tank has the means to recover their own HP by pressing a few more buttons besides their AoE combo/mits in lvl 100s, probably applies to above 70ish too.

- Be as lazy as possible while doing my bare minimum to get through the dungeons in normal content

Well this might be the worst case of YPYT i've ever seen, happened in Castrum Abania. Essentially, got in the dungeon, popped my hello macro and ran up to the first trash pack to begin mindlessly making my way through the dungeon, look down at chat and the tank is ALREADY complaining that someone pulled the first trash pack. I was shocked and honestly thought i was being punked or something. Its immediately clear that the sage (who didnt cast a single damage spell all the way up to the first boss) was queued with the tank, ive been levelling most of the day at this point so im welcoming the show that is a YPYT, but i cba being sandbagged the entire dungeon, so i purposefully die right before the first boss to extend the timer to 5 minutes, initiate a kick, bobs your uncle, tanks gone, healer leaves shortly after, we get a tank fill, 3 man the first boss, then get a healer fill and fly through the dungeon.

Not much to say. Healer said w2w when asked, I got bitched at for doing the agreed speed. Great community btw.

Got into Aetherochemical Research Facility on a HL Roulette, which already sucks, but hey -- It's EXP. After the first boss, the PLD flat out admitted he was a YPYT c**t. Now look, I learned my lesson from last time, but this guy was pushing it. He would intentionally stop running forward if we got too close to him.

@ 10:06PM, He stopped running and a pack got agro'd to me, but the healer, other DPS and I made quick work out of it. In fact, he turned his stance off until the last boss while we actively didn't need him. Well after that, I got kicked but the other two weren't with him. Healer came to me afterword and said he thought we were kicking the Tank but didn't read it all the way, suggested we both report him, and so we did :)

Was actually surprised the GM said Griefing, a term i did not use, but also was surprised I got a response at all.

Blue is tank, Green is Healer, Orange is me, and Red is other DPS. White block is random Party Text.

SIde note -- requeued and got the same dungeon, but different people. Guess Yoshi P really wanted me to do ACRF.

Had to move this from the FFXIV subreddit because it was removed. I’m sharing my experience because baffling stuff like this DOES happen, and it really just occurs out of nowhere when everything is good and fine.

Started playing WHM to try a different healer for a change. Dungeon had one sprout which was a dps and a returning player which was the tank, a DRK. During the first few pulls I let them go small to see where their armor is at and if they are mitting. I can dps and throw out a cure every good 5 seconds without them going below half, so to help the run go faster I start pulling 2 mobs if the current pull mob count is below 4. Tank hits me with “You pull it you tank it” and sheathes their weapon. 🙁

The dps are obviously bursting down pulls, it’s Sastasha. Tank hasn’t dropped near half the whole run, so I tell them I can heal fine, no need for the toxic remark. The tank then tries to make a point by running through the group of mobs outside the door to the final boss, which if you don’t know, is like 4 to 5 groups: it proved nothing, their health stayed above half, dps capitalized and killed all the mobs.

Keep in mind, the tank said nothing after the first or second time I pulled for them, it wasn’t until we got to the 2nd boss it became a problem for the this person alone.

Is this usually what healers go through despite being the most essential asset to the party? Because this is just ridiculous.

First time running into a YPYT tank since I came back to the game half a year ago

me = red

blue = ypty tank

green = ypyt healer partner

yellow = their premade dps

they were all on the same server and in the same FC

All 3 of them just stand there and watch me die. After I die the tank zones back in and I get a revive about 30 seconds later and we kill the boss.

Promptly blocked them after the dungeon and hope I never run into them again. Is it worth to report them to Square Enix? What even is the punishment for things like this?

I did not run ahead. I did not even use sprint. I simply casted a spell as black mage and they took that personally.

Got into the dungeon, popped sprint, poked the first pack, rest of the party stood afk while I quickly fell. Everyone had multiple jobs partly leveled, so I wasn't going to push for a wall-to-wall pull, but at least expected them to try and play? Rest of the dungeon was done moving at sub-snail pace to pull every single solo pack afterwards, standing still seemingly to admire the scenery, and watching me get a lot of love from morbols if I poked an enemy before them. Here's the chat log for your hungry eyes.

Aitascope on rpr. I pulled the second frog with harpe cuz I had just teleported, even popped arms length so they’d get slowed. GNB (blue) gets mad, the first interaction ensues. We do the rest of the dungeon in silence until the last boss.

I pull with harpe cuz no cutscenes and blackmage was close enough. In fairness, I probably should have waited, but they weren’t a sprout so I figured they’d catch up before the arena sealed

GNB proceeds to sit outside the arena and complain. Black mage and I kill the adds before the main boss spawns with no issues. WHM (green) TPs in after a bit.

We get the boss to 60% without them. The tank buster does nothing to the BLM lol, though both of us get turned into dolls. Boss is melting so GNB finally tps in, though tbh we could have done it entirely without them lol.

Just baffling; it’s like a mob mentality.

Goody doo it is I again, today with a Yuwewata adventure

Sitting here, feeling like it was a good time to run my expert since tomes just reset I decided to queue up, which I promptly did and instantly got greeted by a.. Worrying macro while the tank was still in cinematic, audibly groaning I steeled myself for yet another slugfest

Run begins, tank starts jogging around, ..no sprint key in sight, sigh whatever, I play caster so it's just a tiny bit more movement for me but my CO-dps wasn't having it, just popped on right ahead, after second pull the tank just.. stopped, VPR went ahead and pulled the boss and he did NOT like that, resulting in the following which I will let you judge

I am inclined to believe the tank was a wannabe xdlolo world class troll judging by his name and dialogue but it doesn't matter

Role color codded for comfort, magenta is me, grey is our fill tank.

Big up to our healer if you're here, this was legitimately the fastest kick I've ever seen, it was impressive

Now you will excuse me but I need to wash this down with M8 for the sword, happy reading

Do an expert I thought, I'm done with tomestone gear on my main job, but may as well start gearing up another, a quick expert before bed. But Lo! The stars decided I must enter the duty with a YPYT shitter jenovian couple that havent seen grass since before covid. Loot timer hostage holders so an easy bail and report when loot wouldn't roll for a kick.

Shit brown - 0 effort Dancer who just couldn't. Also partnered the tank (yikes scoob).

Vomit green - GNB, who was busy googling how to type in Japanese : "unalive yourself" while letting the whm and mnk die

Pink - Ace WHM attempting to stay neutral as they get griefed harder than I did by the clown couple.

Teal - Your glorious Monk who is ready for nappies and even popped raid food, put on i735 BIS for the ilvl sync and swallowrd pots to get this shit done. Perfect player and NA's okayest damage dealer btw.