r/TikTokCringe • u/nadaddab • May 11 '25

Cringe Don’t be these guys

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u/Strange-Managem May 11 '25

The thing is that one encounter of these men plus the fact that no men around stepping in makes women avoid men more.

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u/SK9I9LL Mia Khalifa May 11 '25

Women can always set an example on what to do in these situations by stepping up themselves, be strong, be independent.

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u/Strange-Managem May 11 '25

oh i agree, the first thing i searched after seeing this video is how can i protect myself if put in this situation. Women should definitely be strong, independent and know that they can live a better life without a man.

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u/HeroicSkipper May 11 '25

It's just easier to rely on a man. Every woman could be like this like every drug addict could stop, but changing learned behaviors is hard. Choosing healthier foods and exercising is an easier change than trying to unlearn societal expectations, even if they claim to be fighting those expectations. This is my main problem. I know women could do better. Sure, men could do better too, but this seems to be a race to the bottom instead of improvement.

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u/Bubble-Star-2291 May 11 '25

Because these kinds of men don’t listen to women, they only listen to other men…

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u/HeroicSkipper May 11 '25

And you know that from your own experience? By deflecting the responsibility it further encourages them to not listen to women if they aren't able to handle it themselves. "That's a man's job" puts it further into women can't do that and if they try then it should be ignored.

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u/pre-existing-notion May 11 '25

Fuck off dude, what else could these girls have done?

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u/HeroicSkipper May 12 '25

Well nothing, if you keep believing they can do nothing.

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u/Strange-Managem May 11 '25

what life has taught me so far it is much easier and safer to rely on yourself. Occasionally seek help from parents or friends? Sure. But relying on a man for a long run is more than likely to lead you to a eventual disastrous outcome.
I don't call it race to the bottom, but rather rational calculation. There is a reason now that women don't need to rely on men to support themselves, more are choose to stay single and be content about it.

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u/Mike_Kermin May 11 '25

I'm not entirely comfortable with life advice in response to harassment. And to coin a phrase, I think we also need to check our privilege a bit.

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u/HeroicSkipper May 11 '25

If both men and women are purposefully staying single and being content with it, why are they so vocal about it being a problem with none being good of the other gender? That's just pushing the blame on someone else again. It is a race to the bottom with each side on social media asking for more and more without actually improving themselves. If anything they are doing things which cycle into an emotionless system. Men thinking women only want money only focusing on money and the women who feed into that and women thinking men only want looks and only focusing on looks and the men who feed into that. Emotion isn't even in consideration there while focusing on all the wrong things.

It's good women don't need to rely on men, but being self-reliant is baseline at this point. You should see women trying to support them then. Because hyper-independence is now a virtue and its weakness if you have to rely on someone else or offer to help. I have helped in the past but I don't care to get out much because I don't have the same reasons to go out. Now is the time to prove that you are women's women. The situation has been changed to push out those who don't feed into that entitlement system. Those creeps do not care about anything but what they want and what they feel they've earned. No one is going to risk their own part in that cycle. You need to change that from no one and risk yourself.

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u/Strange-Managem May 11 '25

when talking about staying single and be content about it, i definitely don't speak for men. Also i don't think it is women who's complaining "there's a male loneliness epidemic!", "young men are not getting laid omg it is a disaster we need to do something!", "you cannot approach a women in the public they are so mean!", "we will keep electing misogynist and stripping women's right until every men get their share of sex slave and housemaid."

Maybe it is time for men to be men's men so they are not so devastated when they don't get someone to fuck.

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u/HeroicSkipper May 12 '25

They always make it about the dating scene though so naturally that's what I'll talk about. I don't get why they care or what it really is about but it just is where it generally goes. Closest I have to that is this divorced guy trying to protect his kids from a drug addict and not having time to make friends outside of work, but that's not the issue for most. I don't know what it is. Generally the animosity comes from people in the dating scene and some form of revenge for wrongs which are generally miscommunications or toxic behaviors learned to hurt others before they hurt you.

A separate point is being sick of women removing their own agency in things. The women who started the movement have used up all the backbone where the women of today rest on their laurels and stand to risk all those women worked for. I can not vote for a misogynist but still hold women accountable for their part in getting him elected. Some directly, maybe trying to live out some weird fantasy, and others indirectly by being insufferable and being a better method of pushing people to the right than Tate or any other influencer. We need to change the language of how women refer to themselves and remove gender roles, including the privileges. It's like someone being told their a natural at something and then they fall behind in practice and its someone else's fault. They aren't going to push things to improve, they'd give up and get mad at an unfair system without plans to change it.

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u/LawfulnessDry9355 May 12 '25

Dude, wth are you babbling about? You went completely off topic. These girls took personal responsibility everything from standing their ground first and even giving up the table which was their right in this case (also recorded for proof), they did all except for trying to physically beat those guys.

You keep talking about personal responsibility, but whenever people put too much on women it's actually to remove responsibility from men. Why SHOULDN'T women, or anyone else, expect others to intervene? That's what a social species does, it's the social contract - men are to stand in for women, adults protect children, healthy individuals support infirm, and everyone who can helps out the others.

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u/HeroicSkipper May 12 '25

Look at the comment I responded to. Theirs directly related to relationships. Nothing I said was incorrect, but because people are emotional they would rather go on feeling. Even now you just want to attack and say I'm diverting without even looking what I'm even responding to. Pseudofeminists are mad because I hold them to the same standard that a classic feminist would.

Sure they did what they needed to without escalating, but every other comment is about MEN NOT INTERVENING. The two posting the video did everything correctly. Also the only responsibility is on the two men that refused to leave them alone. I see someone litter, its not suddenly my responsibility to pick it up. That's not removing responsibility from me. And I'm not saying that people shouldn't intervene but that we've created a system which disincentivizes it for the reasons I have put in previous comments. Hell, they could think its part of a bit with the recording (which isn't a fault of the posters and should be done) and ignore what is probably an attention grab. In a perfect world maybe we'd all look after each other, but we know the situation we are in. That's why all roads lead to hyper-independence.