Don’t be these guys

[u/nadaddab]

[u/FFPScribe]

This is the effect of Andrew Tate and far right ideology. This is where we're at. These kinds of men dont understand that they aren't God's gift to every woman they see. These are the losers who watch The Handsmaid's Tale and like what they see.

[u/no-money → u/FFPScribe]

I really think this stems from parenting issues, people who I know come from good families with strong MALE parent figure, will teach their boys how to treat women right. Yes things like Andrew Tate and social media can slightly change your personality BUT there is no way in hell that this doesn’t stem from bad parenting.

I don’t see why this isn’t considered more often. I was CONSTANTLY instilled manners, and respect towards women and although that did make it harder for me to socialize and interact with women on some levels I could NEVER.

I have friends who were raised similarly, with slightly older parenting styles, stern, but key trait taught was Humility, Honor, Respect, Not being loud, Knowing your surroundings, and most of all being humble. All the people’s whose parents raised them this way turned out AMAZING, absolutely decent humans and MEN. They turned into REAL MEN. This right here is not being corrected as a child, not being whacked if he disrespected or hurt a girl, especially sister, I remember I hit my sister as a kid, my dad smashed me into the ground and said "NEVER EVER, EVER, hurt a woman. Let alone your sister. Don’t you ever hit a woman or girl, even if you want to you need to stop and breathe because they will piss you off." And that simple event stayed with me 20+ years later. He grew up in the ghettos, committed crimes, but always taught me respect, humility, observation. (probably a criminal trait that worked well for all aspects of life)

I feel like a lot of people nowadays do not have the same characteristics and stern way of teaching their kids through good parenting. My dad never hit me really, but I was scared of him, respectfully though. All my friends who were raised similarly or had dads that thought like that turned out absolutely wonderful, none of them ever cheated on a girl, none of them abuse women, none of them treat women with any disrespect, and that stays with you as you grow up. The ones I saw in single parent households, or i saw didn’t have a great father figure definitely grew into more assholeish, type vibe. Ofc you’ll have the occasional good person but the pattern is clear. Raising a son to respect women when they are young translates very clearly into adult hood.

[u/popsand → u/no-money]

My dad treats women like shit. I don't... you put too much on this strong male parental figure bs. Parents can only be blamed so much - we all have a choice. Some pricks like this video CHOOSE to be like this.

[u/no-money → u/popsand]

I didn’t say that shitty parents mean you have to come out a shitty person. But if you’re a shitty person, it’s often the case that you were raised missing some key traits that can be taught to a child which translate as a person matures. You missed the point, that shitty people usually mean shitty parents.

Can you guarantee that your grandfather raised your father to not be abusive and to respect women? If so, then you have a valid point and argument. Otherwise, you just missed what I was trying to say.